| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:24 - Sep 4 with 2558 views | Reuser_is_God |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:14 - Sep 4 by J2BLUE |
It's just a case of most people on more than £10 an hour have no interest in seeing other people get a fair wage. God forbid their expenses go up a little bit. Much better to just happily accept people like McDonalds workers earning peanuts.
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People have such an awful attitude to others, who they deem themselves above, earning decent money.
It probably will never get to the stage where they're earning more than you but if it does then feel free to apply for a job there. |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 with 2550 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:21 - Sep 4 by tcblue |
I would counter that capitalism (or at least influencial capitalists) has a huge vested interest in keeping people in poverty.
Without getting all Steinbeck up in this biyatch, the belief in a system where anyone can bootstrap their way out of poverty is crazy powerful. And codswallop [Post edited 4 Sep 2017 13:23]
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My Dad was born under a table in a council house as 1 of 6 to a housewife and a bricklayer and now lives in a huge detached house with a great pension. There are many stories like this, including Obama's. |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 with 2536 views | caught-in-limbo |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:14 - Sep 4 by blue_oyster |
This could be the first example of a strike being a good thing. |
Upvoted for genuinely comedic reasons. |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:28 - Sep 4 with 2523 views | tcblue |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
My Dad was born under a table in a council house as 1 of 6 to a housewife and a bricklayer and now lives in a huge detached house with a great pension. There are many stories like this, including Obama's. |
And plenty of other stories about hard-working families living in poverty for generations due to the ladder being pulled up.
I never said it was impossible to escape poverty, just that the concept anybody could do it is a fallacy. By definition, capitalism cannot work economically for everyone - it has to be fed. |  | | |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:29 - Sep 4 with 2515 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:28 - Sep 4 by tcblue |
And plenty of other stories about hard-working families living in poverty for generations due to the ladder being pulled up.
I never said it was impossible to escape poverty, just that the concept anybody could do it is a fallacy. By definition, capitalism cannot work economically for everyone - it has to be fed. |
You literally said it was codswallop. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:30 - Sep 4 with 2505 views | Benters |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
My Dad was born under a table in a council house as 1 of 6 to a housewife and a bricklayer and now lives in a huge detached house with a great pension. There are many stories like this, including Obama's. |
Why under a table,im not getting that bit?
Blitz was it?
Bloody Germans . |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:31 - Sep 4 with 2509 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
My Dad was born under a table in a council house as 1 of 6 to a housewife and a bricklayer and now lives in a huge detached house with a great pension. There are many stories like this, including Obama's. |
Whilst I don't doubt they worked for that, do you not think the fact almost anyone with a small amount of savings could buy a house back then contributed to that?
To use examples from decades ago as an example of how great capitalism is shows being greatly out of touch. |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:32 - Sep 4 with 2501 views | blue_oyster |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:25 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
My Dad was born under a table in a council house as 1 of 6 to a housewife and a bricklayer and now lives in a huge detached house with a great pension. There are many stories like this, including Obama's. |
Didn't want to damage the Wedgwood? |  |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:32 - Sep 4 with 2500 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:30 - Sep 4 by Benters |
Why under a table,im not getting that bit?
Blitz was it?
Bloody Germans . |
Haha, it was indeed. South London. It's probably a lie he tells to be fair. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:33 - Sep 4 with 2501 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:29 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
You literally said it was codswallop. |
It is. 1 in 1000 people winning on scratch cards doesn't improve everyone's likelihood of winning the lottery. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:33 - Sep 4 with 2498 views | tcblue |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:29 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
You literally said it was codswallop. |
That anybody could climb out of poverty. Yes. It is. There are obviously examples where *some* have, but for the vast majority it will never happen because of vested interests in keeping a lower economic class. | | | |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:34 - Sep 4 with 2489 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:31 - Sep 4 by monytowbray |
Whilst I don't doubt they worked for that, do you not think the fact almost anyone with a small amount of savings could buy a house back then contributed to that?
To use examples from decades ago as an example of how great capitalism is shows being greatly out of touch. |
I used it to show that it is not, indeed, codswallop. And I gave a more recent example too. But it is much much harder now of course, to the point of being almost impossible for some of you. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:36 - Sep 4 with 2465 views | Reuser_is_God |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:31 - Sep 4 by monytowbray |
Whilst I don't doubt they worked for that, do you not think the fact almost anyone with a small amount of savings could buy a house back then contributed to that?
To use examples from decades ago as an example of how great capitalism is shows being greatly out of touch. |
Still not moved to Burnley then? | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:37 - Sep 4 with 2463 views | tcblue |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:34 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
I used it to show that it is not, indeed, codswallop. And I gave a more recent example too. But it is much much harder now of course, to the point of being almost impossible for some of you. |
Which is very much the point I was making, not sure how you got confused. Capitalism is fuelled by the few climbing up pulling up the ladder as they go. So the idea that 'anyone' can pull themselves out of it is, as I stated, codswallop. And it has to be, for the system to work. | | | |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:40 - Sep 4 with 2444 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:37 - Sep 4 by tcblue |
Which is very much the point I was making, not sure how you got confused. Capitalism is fuelled by the few climbing up pulling up the ladder as they go. So the idea that 'anyone' can pull themselves out of it is, as I stated, codswallop. And it has to be, for the system to work. |
Rockefeller pulled up the ladder? Carnegie? Thomas Edison? Bill Gates? | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:42 - Sep 4 with 2426 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:40 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
Rockefeller pulled up the ladder? Carnegie? Thomas Edison? Bill Gates? |
HAHAHAHAHAHA. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:43 - Sep 4 with 2423 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:34 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
I used it to show that it is not, indeed, codswallop. And I gave a more recent example too. But it is much much harder now of course, to the point of being almost impossible for some of you. |
Your Dad did it decades ago from a working class family so capitalism is great. That's literally what you said. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:45 - Sep 4 with 2400 views | chicoazul |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:42 - Sep 4 by monytowbray |
HAHAHAHAHAHA. |
do be quiet, adults are talking. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:48 - Sep 4 with 2386 views | Benters |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:32 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
Haha, it was indeed. South London. It's probably a lie he tells to be fair. |
I believe it . | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:45 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
do be quiet, adults are talking. |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:53 - Sep 4 with 2368 views | Benters |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:36 - Sep 4 by Reuser_is_God |
Still not moved to Burnley then? |
This. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:53 - Sep 4 with 2368 views | tcblue |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:40 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
Rockefeller pulled up the ladder? Carnegie? Thomas Edison? Bill Gates? |
In effect, yes. Obviously their philanthropy is commendable but that's still wealth redistribution, still moves the ladder, still the ladder is controlled by the few.
Right? | | | |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:54 - Sep 4 with 2365 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:45 - Sep 4 by chicoazul |
do be quiet, adults are talking. |
You do this to me all the time whilst adding nothing to debate. I was just taking a page from the 'chicoazul' school of counter points. | |
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| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:55 - Sep 4 with 2360 views | monytowbray |
| This is huge, Maccie D's on strike. on 13:53 - Sep 4 by tcblue |
In effect, yes. Obviously their philanthropy is commendable but that's still wealth redistribution, still moves the ladder, still the ladder is controlled by the few.
Right? |
Nah his Dad did it so you're wrong or something. [Post edited 4 Sep 2017 13:55]
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