| Cook and Richardson fall out? 10:10 - Jun 20 with 8004 views | BryanPlug |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:22 - Jun 20 with 1898 views | Harry_Palmer |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 12:57 - Jun 20 by CokeIsKey |
It’s not - Stuart Watson said things were a bit frosty between the pair when they met for an U23’s match after Richardson signed the Wigan deal. Not sure why people on here are so eager to put others down. |
I haven't put anybody down. The OP appears to have taken a throw away comment about Cook and Richardson now being a bit 'frosty' towards one another and decided it might scupper our entire summer transfer plans. I just don't personally think that makes a great deal of sense or is anything to worry about, but if you do then by all means crack on. |  | | |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:22 - Jun 20 with 1893 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 13:37 - Jun 20 by chrismakin |
You would imagine tho 2 close friends potentially working together sharing ideas on who to go for in the summer.
The plans changed of course but I dont think its wrong to assume those sorts of chats would have taken place.
I still think our market is different to Wigans however. |
Nah. Cook will have known Richardson was in with a shout of the Wigan job. He's not going to share his targets when that's a possibility, unless he's very stupid (which I don't think he is).
Until Richardson's in the door (ours), why on earth would he share targets with him? |  |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:25 - Jun 20 with 1878 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 13:43 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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It was also known there was a decent chance Richardson would be made perm Wigan manager. So it's either you who are dim, or Paul Cook. I know which my money's on. | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:25 - Jun 20 with 1878 views | itfcjoe |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:16 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm not sure we're deliberately holding back for that reason - Phil seemed sure that Harper is done on the latest BM/TWTD mashup chat, and it's being held back by West Brom.
If anything, showing we've bought 3 or 4 would probably help negotiations - in terms of showing players that other decent players are coming here... plus we have less places to fill, so other selling clubs will see us as less desperate. |
Yep, Occam’s razor in reality - deals not quite over line or some grand plan for some mega announcement?! |  |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:29 - Jun 20 with 1848 views | galacticoblue |
a fairly valid concern, but what will be will be.
What is more concerning is the vitriol this fairly innocuous post has received!! Get a grip people, stop sniping back at fellow ITFC supporters! |  | | |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:32 - Jun 20 with 1834 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:22 - Jun 20 by Harry_Palmer |
I haven't put anybody down. The OP appears to have taken a throw away comment about Cook and Richardson now being a bit 'frosty' towards one another and decided it might scupper our entire summer transfer plans. I just don't personally think that makes a great deal of sense or is anything to worry about, but if you do then by all means crack on. |
It's hilarious isn't it?
BryanPlug reckons Cook's told Richardson all his transfer targets... Richardson's furiously scribbled them down... then as soon as they get off the phone, Richardson's said to his CEO, "Right, I know who we need to sign - get these guys on the blower." Then Wigan swoop in and sign the lot while Cook sits with head in hands saying "Doh, me and my big mouth!"
I'd say you couldn't make it up, but Bryan just has! | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:37 - Jun 20 with 1809 views | Harry_Palmer |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:32 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's hilarious isn't it?
BryanPlug reckons Cook's told Richardson all his transfer targets... Richardson's furiously scribbled them down... then as soon as they get off the phone, Richardson's said to his CEO, "Right, I know who we need to sign - get these guys on the blower." Then Wigan swoop in and sign the lot while Cook sits with head in hands saying "Doh, me and my big mouth!"
I'd say you couldn't make it up, but Bryan just has! |
It's a stretch of the imagination for me, but hey, maybe Bryan is right.
Either way I won't be losing any sleep over it. | | | |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:39 - Jun 20 with 1798 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 11:55 - Jun 20 by GiroJim |
They may be doing the work, but not a lot is happening. Ashton said we were in for 3,4 maybe 5 a week or more ago. Nothing seems to have happened there. Think they are struggling with their plan of getting better players in from the Championship or the better players from this league. With training starting next Saturday Cook wanted players in early to work with. Doesnt look like happening. Instead he has about 20 returning who were told to go find a new club. Not sure they will be trying too hard. Just enough to get their wages. |
If those returning players are hoping for a decent move then they will be putting in some real effort.
If they want to impress our manager in order to be offered a new contract then they will be putting in some effort.
If they want to end up on the dole then they may not try too hard. |  |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:41 - Jun 20 with 1788 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:39 - Jun 20 by Tangledupin_Blue |
If those returning players are hoping for a decent move then they will be putting in some real effort.
If they want to impress our manager in order to be offered a new contract then they will be putting in some effort.
If they want to end up on the dole then they may not try too hard. |
...our stuck in the U23's, ruining their own careers.
Certainly not an option I'd choose. | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:52 - Jun 20 with 1748 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:41 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
...our stuck in the U23's, ruining their own careers.
Certainly not an option I'd choose. |
If Cook is the decent manager that people seem to think he is then players from our development and youth squads will have their chances, as long as they show that they have what it takes. | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:57 - Jun 20 with 1743 views | itfcjoe |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:32 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's hilarious isn't it?
BryanPlug reckons Cook's told Richardson all his transfer targets... Richardson's furiously scribbled them down... then as soon as they get off the phone, Richardson's said to his CEO, "Right, I know who we need to sign - get these guys on the blower." Then Wigan swoop in and sign the lot while Cook sits with head in hands saying "Doh, me and my big mouth!"
I'd say you couldn't make it up, but Bryan just has! |
It’s hardly a great leap to suggest that Richardson and Cook discussed players they liked, not that they would know the exact type of players they each other like and it’s likely to be a similar sort of player.
Bryan is hardly suggesting we’ve sent him our full lists and budgets etc | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:21 - Jun 20 with 1670 views | BryanPlug |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:14 - Jun 20 by Harry_Palmer |
Why would Cook have been discussing his Summer transfer plans with Richardson? Even before he got the gig full time he was still managing a rival club, it makes no sense that Cook would have been discussing ITFC Summer transfer targets even if they were in regular contact.
That he now has the job full time means that of course their relationship will change, they are now competing against each other for promotion out of the same division. We also took one of their best players and they took Edwards off us ( no great loss ), If people want to label it 'frosty' then fine, but it's hardly a surprise that things will have changed between them.
Chill out a bit and stop worrying about things that are really no big deal, i'm sure this time next week we will have a couple more signings through the door and things will look a lot more positive. |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:25 - Jun 20 with 1663 views | BryanPlug |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:32 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's hilarious isn't it?
BryanPlug reckons Cook's told Richardson all his transfer targets... Richardson's furiously scribbled them down... then as soon as they get off the phone, Richardson's said to his CEO, "Right, I know who we need to sign - get these guys on the blower." Then Wigan swoop in and sign the lot while Cook sits with head in hands saying "Doh, me and my big mouth!"
I'd say you couldn't make it up, but Bryan just has! |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:33 - Jun 20 with 1646 views | BryanPlug |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:57 - Jun 20 by itfcjoe |
It’s hardly a great leap to suggest that Richardson and Cook discussed players they liked, not that they would know the exact type of players they each other like and it’s likely to be a similar sort of player.
Bryan is hardly suggesting we’ve sent him our full lists and budgets etc |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:40 - Jun 20 with 1629 views | ArnieM |
This thread topic / suggestion is complete fabrication by the OP and frankly, utter twaddle! |  |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:44 - Jun 20 with 1613 views | Harry_Palmer |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:21 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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But the truth is you don't know what they discussed so it is ultimately just pure speculation on your part without any evidence.
The fact they are both professionals and were working at rival clubs makes it unlikely Cook would have gone into great detail in my view. Also the fact they have worked together for years and will generally favour similar types of players anyway makes it largely irrelevant.
Chill man. Grab a beer, Italy - Wales is on soon. | | | |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:52 - Jun 20 with 1596 views | Moriarty |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:57 - Jun 20 by itfcjoe |
It’s hardly a great leap to suggest that Richardson and Cook discussed players they liked, not that they would know the exact type of players they each other like and it’s likely to be a similar sort of player.
Bryan is hardly suggesting we’ve sent him our full lists and budgets etc |
Then re read what he said.
He said it was likely PC was sharing his plans for players. IE transfer targets. To a direct rival. In the context of PC telling everyone they could leave and there would be a huge influx. That, if true, is a serious breach of duty to the club. [Post edited 20 Jun 2021 16:31]
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 17:11 - Jun 20 with 1504 views | Vic |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:52 - Jun 20 by Moriarty |
Then re read what he said.
He said it was likely PC was sharing his plans for players. IE transfer targets. To a direct rival. In the context of PC telling everyone they could leave and there would be a huge influx. That, if true, is a serious breach of duty to the club. [Post edited 20 Jun 2021 16:31]
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It is indeed speculation - but it’s not unrealistic is it. I think it’s pretty clear that Cooke expected Richardson to join him here, so any conversation, discussion would be to a future colleague, not a direct rival.
What would be very unlikely, in my opinion, is that after committing himself to Wigan long term LR would then sit down and deliberately target the players they had talked about just to spite him. It’s much more likely that given they have worked together so well for so long that they will have similar styles and therefore similar players they want to sign. |  |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 17:22 - Jun 20 with 1480 views | chrismakin |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 17:11 - Jun 20 by Vic |
It is indeed speculation - but it’s not unrealistic is it. I think it’s pretty clear that Cooke expected Richardson to join him here, so any conversation, discussion would be to a future colleague, not a direct rival.
What would be very unlikely, in my opinion, is that after committing himself to Wigan long term LR would then sit down and deliberately target the players they had talked about just to spite him. It’s much more likely that given they have worked together so well for so long that they will have similar styles and therefore similar players they want to sign. |
Apart from Edwards. What have they signed that youd think we would be after
CB from pompy... we were in for Bradley
Power... we got Evans
For example. I dont understand this concept that wigan are beating us in our target market when it's not even k own what is our target market. But based on Bradley and Harper attempts it's not just league 1 players like Wigan have signed. Cousins is an interesting signing I'll give them that one tho. But interesting they've signed him with power as both basically the same player. So they'll be interesting to see. [Post edited 20 Jun 2021 17:30]
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 17:59 - Jun 20 with 1419 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:33 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:05 - Jun 20 with 1414 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 14:57 - Jun 20 by itfcjoe |
It’s hardly a great leap to suggest that Richardson and Cook discussed players they liked, not that they would know the exact type of players they each other like and it’s likely to be a similar sort of player.
Bryan is hardly suggesting we’ve sent him our full lists and budgets etc |
Bryan didn't say that though. He said "it’s likely that Cook was sharing his plans for players etc with him."
Once again you're defending nonsense because it attacks Cook. It's very odd. | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:08 - Jun 20 with 1404 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:21 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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How do you know he was under that impression?
I always thought the narrative was he may well come here but may well also be made perm Wigan manager, which he was. What is it you know that nobody else does, or are you just guessing again? | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:09 - Jun 20 with 1395 views | itfcjoe |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:05 - Jun 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Bryan didn't say that though. He said "it’s likely that Cook was sharing his plans for players etc with him."
Once again you're defending nonsense because it attacks Cook. It's very odd. |
Well it is obvious they would have spoken about that, and it is also obvious it’s not a criticism of Cook, or something he’s done wrong but just a situation that has changed which doesn’t help us as a club.
Even if Cook and Richardson hadn’t spoken since he left Wigan, Richardson getting the job and Wigan getting money is far from ideal as they will have very similar philosophies and players they rate as worked in each other’s pockets for years and years.
Not everything has to be pro or anti Cook, there can just be observations about things which are or aren’t in the clubs favour | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:09 - Jun 20 with 1396 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:25 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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You got a tap on Cook's phone?
If this isn't all conjecture, show me some proof. | |
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| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 18:11 - Jun 20 with 1391 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Cook and Richardson fall out? on 15:33 - Jun 20 by BryanPlug |
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Abuse?! LOL. Report me then. I'm not the one calling everyone d!cks/divs. | |
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