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Wuhan Flu 19:35 - Oct 4 with 5514 viewsEsteemed_Canon

So yet another weekend has passed with pubs closing farcically early and more issues being caused by people just drinking loads in a short period of time.

I think enough is enough, we need to stop being defensive over this. Open up stadiums and venues and let us get on with life.

Also I see many people not wearing masks and they seem to be ok so why not make the wearing of PPE optional, give people a choice?
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Wuhan Flu on 20:07 - Oct 4 with 543 viewsDanTheMan

Wuhan Flu on 20:04 - Oct 4 by leitrimblue

Are you very very very drunk?


Doesn't even get the name right.

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Wuhan Flu on 20:08 - Oct 4 with 543 viewsKeno

Wuhan Flu on 20:03 - Oct 4 by Keno

I know it’s a free(ish) country and all that but I do find threads that start like this get very tedious and although they will be in denial usually show the OP’er and those supporting them to be complete utter moronic eejits

But unfortunately that doesn’t stop them and TWTD is the poorer for them
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Yay! I will wear my down arrow with pride

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Wuhan Flu on 20:08 - Oct 4 with 537 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:06 - Oct 4 by StokieBlue

Indeed.

Nice to see that Paz thinks he's talking sense though.

SB


I think he raises a good point about opening stuff up. Take football stadiums for example. Could be done perfectly safely with limited capacity. You’ve got a couple of hundred people attending some non league games, I don’t get why the football league is any different

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Wuhan Flu on 20:12 - Oct 4 with 533 viewsKeno

Wuhan Flu on 20:08 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

I think he raises a good point about opening stuff up. Take football stadiums for example. Could be done perfectly safely with limited capacity. You’ve got a couple of hundred people attending some non league games, I don’t get why the football league is any different


If you’d bothered to take notice of what has been said 200 people staying in a field to watch Pratt’s Bottom vs Lowestoft is a little different to several hundreds if not thousands cramming into concourses etc at stadium

It doesn’t require any great intelligence to work that out

Phil has explained it in several posts

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Wuhan Flu on 20:14 - Oct 4 with 514 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:12 - Oct 4 by Keno

If you’d bothered to take notice of what has been said 200 people staying in a field to watch Pratt’s Bottom vs Lowestoft is a little different to several hundreds if not thousands cramming into concourses etc at stadium

It doesn’t require any great intelligence to work that out

Phil has explained it in several posts


Clubs have worked out how to do it, they were all ready for the pilots

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Wuhan Flu on 20:16 - Oct 4 with 511 viewsStokieBlue

Wuhan Flu on 20:14 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

Clubs have worked out how to do it, they were all ready for the pilots


Context?

They worked it out when the R rate and number of infections was lower. Those plans are now deemed invalid given the changes in circumstances. This really isn't hard stuff to work out. It just looks like you want things open for your own reasons.

Thousands of fans traveling to a match in a city centre on public transport isn't going to be a good idea but I suspect you are only considering your own circumstances.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Wuhan Flu on 20:17 - Oct 4 with 497 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:16 - Oct 4 by StokieBlue

Context?

They worked it out when the R rate and number of infections was lower. Those plans are now deemed invalid given the changes in circumstances. This really isn't hard stuff to work out. It just looks like you want things open for your own reasons.

Thousands of fans traveling to a match in a city centre on public transport isn't going to be a good idea but I suspect you are only considering your own circumstances.

SB


They will have to open at some point or clubs will go to the wall

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Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 with 495 viewsEsteemed_Canon

Wuhan Flu on 20:17 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

They will have to open at some point or clubs will go to the wall


Thousands of fans on the beers all day drinking on public transport is exactly what we need.

The economy needs a boost and this will provide it.

When grounds open I fully intend to sing / drink beer / celebrate with fellow fans all without a mask on
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Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 with 493 viewsKeno

Wuhan Flu on 20:17 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

They will have to open at some point or clubs will go to the wall


And when it’s deemed safe they will do

Or you would rather a few more people died so you can watch footie?

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Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 with 491 viewsStokieBlue

Wuhan Flu on 20:17 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

They will have to open at some point or clubs will go to the wall


That doesn't address any of the points made.

We are all aware of the situation.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Wuhan Flu on 20:22 - Oct 4 with 477 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 by StokieBlue

That doesn't address any of the points made.

We are all aware of the situation.

SB


It’s very relevant. Social and economic costs of restrictions need to be considered (unfortunately this government and ‘the scientists’ who advise them don’t seem to be aware of that

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Wuhan Flu on 20:23 - Oct 4 with 472 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 by Esteemed_Canon

Thousands of fans on the beers all day drinking on public transport is exactly what we need.

The economy needs a boost and this will provide it.

When grounds open I fully intend to sing / drink beer / celebrate with fellow fans all without a mask on


You’ll get in trouble if you do that

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Wuhan Flu on 20:24 - Oct 4 with 477 viewsEsteemed_Canon

Wuhan Flu on 20:19 - Oct 4 by Keno

And when it’s deemed safe they will do

Or you would rather a few more people died so you can watch footie?


Think Paz is just trying to get things open as was my original comment.

To say a few more people will die is a massive lefty over reaction.

If we don’t open anything on fear of death then nothing will ever happen, you could get hit by a bus when waking to ground after few pints.

Using that logic we should ban all games until there Are no buses on the streets
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Wuhan Flu on 20:25 - Oct 4 with 473 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 19:52 - Oct 4 by J2BLUE

Because they either have a medical issue or they are selfish dickheads. Some people can't wear a mask. Those that can that choose not to are just morons.


These would be the same people who refuse to understand the lack of sympathy for their fellow deniers when they catch the thing and fall ill.

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Wuhan Flu on 20:26 - Oct 4 with 468 viewsKeno

Wuhan Flu on 20:24 - Oct 4 by Esteemed_Canon

Think Paz is just trying to get things open as was my original comment.

To say a few more people will die is a massive lefty over reaction.

If we don’t open anything on fear of death then nothing will ever happen, you could get hit by a bus when waking to ground after few pints.

Using that logic we should ban all games until there Are no buses on the streets


You do get how contagion works don’t you?

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Wuhan Flu on 20:26 - Oct 4 with 466 viewsNewcyBlue

Wuhan Flu on 20:24 - Oct 4 by Esteemed_Canon

Think Paz is just trying to get things open as was my original comment.

To say a few more people will die is a massive lefty over reaction.

If we don’t open anything on fear of death then nothing will ever happen, you could get hit by a bus when waking to ground after few pints.

Using that logic we should ban all games until there Are no buses on the streets


I can see a bus, I can’t see covid.

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Wuhan Flu on 20:27 - Oct 4 with 459 viewsm14_blue

Wuhan Flu on 20:24 - Oct 4 by Esteemed_Canon

Think Paz is just trying to get things open as was my original comment.

To say a few more people will die is a massive lefty over reaction.

If we don’t open anything on fear of death then nothing will ever happen, you could get hit by a bus when waking to ground after few pints.

Using that logic we should ban all games until there Are no buses on the streets


Is this really how you want to spend your Sunday night?

Get yourself a girlfriend mate.
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Wuhan Flu on 20:29 - Oct 4 with 451 viewseireblue

Wuhan Flu on 20:22 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

It’s very relevant. Social and economic costs of restrictions need to be considered (unfortunately this government and ‘the scientists’ who advise them don’t seem to be aware of that


‘the scientists’

LOL.
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Wuhan Flu on 20:30 - Oct 4 with 445 viewsKeno

Wuhan Flu on 20:26 - Oct 4 by NewcyBlue

I can see a bus, I can’t see covid.


In 2018, the most recent year I can find a figure for 1738 people were killed by road accidents in UK, there is no “bus specific” figure

In a little over 6 month# COVID has killed 45000 people or thereabouts

So yes buses are a good analogy!!

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Wuhan Flu on 20:31 - Oct 4 with 437 viewsacj

Wuhan Flu on 19:47 - Oct 4 by EastTownBlue

Again the point that face coverings are intended to protect others but not the wearer is missed.


It feels like so many people are totally unaware of this. It’s the only reason I can see that explains their attitudes towards masks.
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Wuhan Flu on 20:31 - Oct 4 with 435 viewsStokieBlue

Wuhan Flu on 20:22 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

It’s very relevant. Social and economic costs of restrictions need to be considered (unfortunately this government and ‘the scientists’ who advise them don’t seem to be aware of that


How much is a life worth?

Put a number on it since you're citing economic costs.

Social costs are relevant but is you watching football worth someone else possibly dying?

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Wuhan Flu on 20:32 - Oct 4 with 424 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:29 - Oct 4 by eireblue

‘the scientists’

LOL.


I agree they are a joke

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Wuhan Flu on 20:34 - Oct 4 with 417 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 20:31 - Oct 4 by acj

It feels like so many people are totally unaware of this. It’s the only reason I can see that explains their attitudes towards masks.


It is weird how some people are still saying the same sh1t those not listening were saying 6 months ago.

You see bits of it on here all the time.

Funny old thing, mindset. Many people seem to decide what they are going to believe in and stick to it regardless of all information that comes their way.

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Wuhan Flu on 20:36 - Oct 4 with 407 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 20:31 - Oct 4 by StokieBlue

How much is a life worth?

Put a number on it since you're citing economic costs.

Social costs are relevant but is you watching football worth someone else possibly dying?

SB


Depends I suppose bit it’s not just for me watching football. It’s a wider debate about how much the liberty of 99% of people is worth

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Wuhan Flu on 20:38 - Oct 4 with 400 viewsStokieBlue

Wuhan Flu on 20:36 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

Depends I suppose bit it’s not just for me watching football. It’s a wider debate about how much the liberty of 99% of people is worth


How much is it worth?

Tell us?

75000 dead, 100000 dead?

You must have a feeling of what you feel is an acceptable price to post in this fashion.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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