| London commuters.... on 09:46 - Oct 17 with 597 views | Default_User |
A commuters life is a stressful one! |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:47 - Oct 17 with 598 views | Swansea_Blue |
| London commuters.... on 09:42 - Oct 17 by BanksterDebtSlave |
As I said ....stressy lot aren't they. |
Just a bit. I get a bit miffed when some bozo holds up the queue in the canteen because he's forgotten his wallet, but I don't pile in and start kicking him in the head.
We're being wound up into a seething mass of hatred. It's so obvious, yet people don't have the brains to resist. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:48 - Oct 17 with 595 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| London commuters.... on 09:35 - Oct 17 by footers |
Sure. Creating disruption creates headlines. Political change is only forced through the media. Sad but true. The longer something is kept on the news agenda the more likely it is to change.
Happy to help. |
There are literally endless ways to cause disruption though - so doing so to something that the protestors should be encouraging is monumentally stupid |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:48 - Oct 17 with 590 views | Bent_double |
| London commuters.... on 08:44 - Oct 17 by StokieBlue |
It's just an idiotic move. If you're trying to garner public support is probably best not to stop people getting into work.
It also seems to be a lot of older people doing the most disruptive protests. There is no doubt they have a valid point but it's an easy one to make when you've spent the previous 50 years flying around the globe or racking up a carbon footprint of your own.
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Maybe I'm missing the point of XR, but surely they want to disrupt/annoy/anger people going about their everyday tasks? They're trying to make a point that unless ordinary people do more now, then these 'normal, everyday tasks' won't be possible in 20/30/40 years time as climate change has made it impossible.
I sit at home watching their actions, and how angry people get with them, with a sense of amusement - because it hasn't affected me personally, even though what's happening to the planet will eventually affect me/my children/grandchildren.
If an XR group were to stand outside my home & business and prevent me from earning money, then sure I'd get angry, but maybe I'd be more inclined to do something rather than just sitting on my backside. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:50 - Oct 17 with 582 views | footers |
| London commuters.... on 09:44 - Oct 17 by giant_ullaa |
Punching down isn't a great way to win over the masses. Or is this just another exercise in self-fulfillment, rather than actually achieving change? |
You don't need to get everyone 'onside'. Unless the man on the street is a politician or CEO, then trying to appease everyone is pointless. Creating awareness is what matters.
A tiny % of London commuters were affected, me included. Attacking the protestors is more backwards than whatever actions they're taking, imo. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:51 - Oct 17 with 568 views | footers |
| London commuters.... on 09:48 - Oct 17 by Bent_double |
Maybe I'm missing the point of XR, but surely they want to disrupt/annoy/anger people going about their everyday tasks? They're trying to make a point that unless ordinary people do more now, then these 'normal, everyday tasks' won't be possible in 20/30/40 years time as climate change has made it impossible.
I sit at home watching their actions, and how angry people get with them, with a sense of amusement - because it hasn't affected me personally, even though what's happening to the planet will eventually affect me/my children/grandchildren.
If an XR group were to stand outside my home & business and prevent me from earning money, then sure I'd get angry, but maybe I'd be more inclined to do something rather than just sitting on my backside. |
Which is an irony of this thread. Most here presumably are all unaffected by the protest and are upset on behalf of imagined people they don't know. I assume most commuted into work by car this morning and will never be disrupted. They just want to give the protestors a kicking. | |
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| London commuters.... on 09:52 - Oct 17 with 558 views | artsbossbeard |
| London commuters.... on 09:50 - Oct 17 by footers |
You don't need to get everyone 'onside'. Unless the man on the street is a politician or CEO, then trying to appease everyone is pointless. Creating awareness is what matters.
A tiny % of London commuters were affected, me included. Attacking the protestors is more backwards than whatever actions they're taking, imo. |
The problem being here is that everyone (bar Trump) is actually onside. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:53 - Oct 17 with 547 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| London commuters.... on 09:52 - Oct 17 by artsbossbeard |
The problem being here is that everyone (bar Trump) is actually onside. |
You think....seriously? |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:55 - Oct 17 with 535 views | StokieBlue |
What do you consider being onside Bankster?
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| London commuters.... on 09:58 - Oct 17 with 524 views | Swansea_Blue |
| London commuters.... on 09:48 - Oct 17 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
There are literally endless ways to cause disruption though - so doing so to something that the protestors should be encouraging is monumentally stupid |
It does seem counterintuitive, although there are a lot of assumption about what XR are trying to do. Their only aim is to affect change at government level, not win over the public (they do state they want to mobilise 3.5% of the public in carrying out action, but that's as far as it goes).
General disruption will get the attention of the government. It won't win them friends, but then I suspect the ones wanting to kick the crap out of them would never be sympathetic to their cause anyway. | |
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| London commuters.... on 09:59 - Oct 17 with 521 views | BackToRussia |
If only there were other ways to get around London other than the dlr and the jubilee line. But there aren't. Not a single one. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 09:59 - Oct 17 with 518 views | factual_blue |
| London commuters.... on 09:27 - Oct 17 by giant_ullaa |
Oops hadn't read your post, sorry for the duplication.
Why attack the tube? It's a symbol of getting something right. |
The tube - or the 'magic underground devil horse carriage' as you norfukkers call it.
London Underground fact of the day. People travelled on the London underground to witness the last public execution in the UK. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 10:00 - Oct 17 with 519 views | footers |
| London commuters.... on 09:58 - Oct 17 by Swansea_Blue |
It does seem counterintuitive, although there are a lot of assumption about what XR are trying to do. Their only aim is to affect change at government level, not win over the public (they do state they want to mobilise 3.5% of the public in carrying out action, but that's as far as it goes).
General disruption will get the attention of the government. It won't win them friends, but then I suspect the ones wanting to kick the crap out of them would never be sympathetic to their cause anyway. |
Exactly, buh.
And just as an aside, here's an article my doctor mate wrote about her involvement with XR... Far from being the 'crusties' portrayed by the tabloids, many are serious professionals who want nothing more than to help avert a crisis. Worth a read.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/extinction-rebellion-protests-london-doctor | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:03 - Oct 17 with 505 views | StokieBlue |
| London commuters.... on 09:59 - Oct 17 by BackToRussia |
If only there were other ways to get around London other than the dlr and the jubilee line. But there aren't. Not a single one. |
I cycle and I love it, although I have bought a new bike so I can use the towpath after being hit by a car down in Whitechapel.
I'm not sure exactly how but if they could improve the cycling infrastructure further I have no doubt that many more people would use it. Unfortunately certain areas (Whitechapel being one) are just awful to cycle though and pretty dangerous.
There needs to be some joined up thinking at government level on this.
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| London commuters.... on 10:06 - Oct 17 with 486 views | allezlesbleus |
| London commuters.... on 09:39 - Oct 17 by footers |
What about the poor people who work in those offices, eh? Or the people who have to clean it up? |
That is the whole point. It affects the people working in the building that makes or has an impact in making the decisions that people are protesting about. The cleaners "work to rule", so continue to clean the offices (once they have gained access), but refuse to clean up the manure outside as this isn't in their job description. |  | | |
| London commuters.... on 10:06 - Oct 17 with 486 views | Sarge |
| London commuters.... on 09:51 - Oct 17 by footers |
Which is an irony of this thread. Most here presumably are all unaffected by the protest and are upset on behalf of imagined people they don't know. I assume most commuted into work by car this morning and will never be disrupted. They just want to give the protestors a kicking. |
So what you’re saying is, if something doesn’t affect you then you shouldn’t be bothered by the effect it has on other people. That’s the problem at the heart of climate change, people (incorrectly) don’t think they’ll be affected and therefore don’t care. |  | | |
| London commuters.... on 10:06 - Oct 17 with 486 views | giant_ullaa |
| London commuters.... on 09:50 - Oct 17 by footers |
You don't need to get everyone 'onside'. Unless the man on the street is a politician or CEO, then trying to appease everyone is pointless. Creating awareness is what matters.
A tiny % of London commuters were affected, me included. Attacking the protestors is more backwards than whatever actions they're taking, imo. |
Seeing those protestors attacked like that was actually quite disturbing. Shows where we're at as a country, but if I was a leader of this rebellion, I'd be doubly troubled - I'd be wonderring how we were losing this campaign so badly. |  |
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| London commuters.... on 10:07 - Oct 17 with 481 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| London commuters.... on 09:55 - Oct 17 by StokieBlue |
What do you consider being onside Bankster?
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Yoga and mindfulness once a day at a bare minimum. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:07 - Oct 17 with 482 views | factual_blue |
| London commuters.... on 08:34 - Oct 17 by artsbossbeard |
I'm all for demonstrations on such matters, however, if ER wants us out of cars and onto cleaner transport, isn't (a much improved) tube travel the better option here? |
They should concentrate on shooting drivers of 4x4s. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:07 - Oct 17 with 479 views | Swansea_Blue |
Yes, well worth a read that. We see the same here - plenty of academics are supporting the protests, and we have a group going down to London this weekend. It's certainly not all “nose-ringed crusties”. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:09 - Oct 17 with 469 views | Swansea_Blue |
| London commuters.... on 10:03 - Oct 17 by StokieBlue |
I cycle and I love it, although I have bought a new bike so I can use the towpath after being hit by a car down in Whitechapel.
I'm not sure exactly how but if they could improve the cycling infrastructure further I have no doubt that many more people would use it. Unfortunately certain areas (Whitechapel being one) are just awful to cycle though and pretty dangerous.
There needs to be some joined up thinking at government level on this.
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"There needs to be some joined up thinking at government level on this.'
Which is exactly why XR are causing a nuisance of themselves. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:09 - Oct 17 with 467 views | factual_blue |
| London commuters.... on 09:47 - Oct 17 by Swansea_Blue |
Just a bit. I get a bit miffed when some bozo holds up the queue in the canteen because he's forgotten his wallet, but I don't pile in and start kicking him in the head.
We're being wound up into a seething mass of hatred. It's so obvious, yet people don't have the brains to resist. |
Yeah - sorry about that. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:10 - Oct 17 with 460 views | footers |
| London commuters.... on 10:06 - Oct 17 by Sarge |
So what you’re saying is, if something doesn’t affect you then you shouldn’t be bothered by the effect it has on other people. That’s the problem at the heart of climate change, people (incorrectly) don’t think they’ll be affected and therefore don’t care. |
I wonder what effect global warming will have on everyone? Hmm. Really makes ya fink.
Funny to read the Lowestoft Journal news comments attacking the local XR protest. For a seaside town damaged more and more by flooding each year, you'd have thought they'd be a bit more understanding of the problem! | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:11 - Oct 17 with 455 views | factual_blue |
| London commuters.... on 09:19 - Oct 17 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
No ones really argued about the planet point in this thread though, just pointed out that stopping people using public transport to get to work is somewhat self-defeating, not to mention unlikely to get anyone onside
Thought you’d have been able to see that fairly easily given the view you must have up there on your 20ft high horse |
The key thing I learnt about work is that 100% of people in 99.9% of jobs are doing stuff that is of no significance or importance whatsoever. | |
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| London commuters.... on 10:12 - Oct 17 with 455 views | giant_ullaa |
| London commuters.... on 09:51 - Oct 17 by footers |
Which is an irony of this thread. Most here presumably are all unaffected by the protest and are upset on behalf of imagined people they don't know. I assume most commuted into work by car this morning and will never be disrupted. They just want to give the protestors a kicking. |
I walked 20mins each way to school and have just started work at my desk at home. Does that mean I can't feel solidarity with people affected? And their crime against the planet? To use public transport!!
Bizarre. | |
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