| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now 16:35 - Oct 12 with 20973 views | MaySixth |
you know, you've made your point |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 with 1920 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:05 - Oct 13 by DanTheMan |
If they cut water and power, that's against international law as far as I'm aware.
They're allowed to defend themselves but what is happening now appears to be going overboard. It's a horrible situation that I'm massively conflicted over but I really can't justify what is going on now. |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |  | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:20 - Oct 13 with 1907 views | BuffaloBill |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:14 - Oct 13 by Herbivore |
Another one who needs to learn how to read. |
You've always been an insensitive sod. Now adding insensitivity to mass murders, this really is a flare in the sky time isn't it? |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:21 - Oct 13 with 1896 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |
And before someone corrects me, I should have said political leaders, not governments.
Apologies. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:22 - Oct 13 with 1889 views | Herbivore |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:20 - Oct 13 by BuffaloBill |
You've always been an insensitive sod. Now adding insensitivity to mass murders, this really is a flare in the sky time isn't it? |
What the actual fook are you even on about? Either you've not read my post or you've got the reading comprehension level of a three year old. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:26 - Oct 13 with 1863 views | Darth_Koont |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |
If Starmer’s the lawyer then he can tell us how the threatening and bombing of civilians fits within international law.
I think you’ll find that he’s much more of a defender of the already illegal occupation and oppression of the Palestinians than any legal or certainly moral arbiter. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:29 - Oct 13 with 1852 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:05 - Oct 13 by DanTheMan |
If they cut water and power, that's against international law as far as I'm aware.
They're allowed to defend themselves but what is happening now appears to be going overboard. It's a horrible situation that I'm massively conflicted over but I really can't justify what is going on now. |
"It's a horrible situation that I'm massively conflicted over but I really can't justify what is going on now."
that's where i think i am. my problem is, that when you set out the options, i honestly don't know what the israelis should do. a policy of containment has failed utterly. hamas is funded and equipped by iran with the intention of destroying isreal and takes every opportunity to kill israelis through rockets, terrorism and hostage taking. saying we shouldn't be where we are now isn't an answer. it is not credible to believe that hamas is open to negotiation or that they would demilitarise gaza. they are fundamentalists waging jihad and are intentionally dug in under and around a civilian shield. saying the un should intervene assumes the un could disarm hamas. what options now will realistically give israel security? unless we can answer that the conflict we feel over what to do now is irresolvable. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:34 - Oct 13 with 1817 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:26 - Oct 13 by Darth_Koont |
If Starmer’s the lawyer then he can tell us how the threatening and bombing of civilians fits within international law.
I think you’ll find that he’s much more of a defender of the already illegal occupation and oppression of the Palestinians than any legal or certainly moral arbiter. |
Then I suggest you pose the question to him, and not me.
Anyway you are a Corbyn groupie, and we all know where his sympathies lie. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:42 - Oct 13 with 1779 views | Darth_Koont |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:34 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Then I suggest you pose the question to him, and not me.
Anyway you are a Corbyn groupie, and we all know where his sympathies lie. |
So that’s the extent of your point?
It sounds like Corbyn has a lot more sympathy with innocent Israeli and Palestinian civilians than you. | |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:49 - Oct 13 with 1749 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |
It is incredibly difficult to send some detectives into Mariupol right now.
But there is a process for prosecuting war crimes after the event.
Ask Ratko Mladic. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:50 - Oct 13 with 1731 views | Herbivore |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:42 - Oct 13 by Darth_Koont |
So that’s the extent of your point?
It sounds like Corbyn has a lot more sympathy with innocent Israeli and Palestinian civilians than you. |
Unfortunately it seems there's a couple of posters looking to score cheap internet points on a serious thread about a tragic situation. They need to take a long look at themselves to be honest. | |
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| Eye for an eye on 09:51 - Oct 13 with 1721 views | Dyland |
It's depressingly predictable and exactly what Hamas sought.
Wrong filter btw. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:53 - Oct 13 with 1694 views | Whos_blue |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 08:59 - Oct 13 by BloomBlue |
Correct
But it also time for Hamas to hand back the civilians it took as hostages, which is also a war crime. Under international law every country has the right to free their civilians held as hostages. Free those hostages and it changes the entire approach the international community will take. |
I think you make a good point, but if the images of the Hamas atrocity are anything to go by, it doesn't seem likely.
This is only going to end badly.
I'm not even sure it’s possible to completely eradicate Hamas militarily, but the innocent lives that will be lost is difficult to contemplate.
Can you imagine being told you have 24 hours (less now) to leave your home? I of course accept the counter argument that the innocent Israelis weren't offered that option before Hamas attacked, but where are they even supposed to go? |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:54 - Oct 13 with 1681 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:50 - Oct 13 by Herbivore |
Unfortunately it seems there's a couple of posters looking to score cheap internet points on a serious thread about a tragic situation. They need to take a long look at themselves to be honest. |
Yes, I'll provide you with a mirror. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:59 - Oct 13 with 1634 views | Whos_blue |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:12 - Oct 13 by BuffaloBill |
Supporting a country who have just had 1200 men, women and children slaughtered you mean?
You absolute heartless fool |
Come on Bill.
I think your take on that is a little unfair.
That post clearly recognised the plight of those originally attacked.
It's important we keep these threads active as we need to express ourselves, but in as a constructive way as possible.
I think we're all find this situation very difficult. | |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:02 - Oct 13 with 1608 views | noggin |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |
Maybe you should listen to The United Nations rather than a politician who is trying to win future votes. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:03 - Oct 13 with 1611 views | blueasfook |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 20:16 - Oct 12 by LaManga |
Hamas have military units and arms within residential areas, including schools and hospitals, so civilians are used as human shields.
Hopefully when the ground invasion happens, the Israelis can hit more specific targets, and wipe out Hamas. |
I suspect they'll all clear off once the ground operation starts. They'll just hop it over the border into Lebanon. As soon as IDF have gone, they'll come back. I dont think a ground operation is going to achieve its aim of wiping out Hamas. |  |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:06 - Oct 13 with 1600 views | Whos_blue |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 09:17 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
Dan, the problem is, some on here throw out accusations, without any foundations. As long as the likes of Starmer accept Israel's position, and he's the lawyer, not Noggin, then I'm afraid I take notice of governments, and not football supporters!
Unless his position (Starmer) has changed of course.
And then there is Russia and Ukraine, both probably committing terrible war crimes. But what happens, nothing |
But haven't the UN also condemned the ongoing siege of Gaza?
Surely their position must have some weight in this very challenging conversation? | |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:06 - Oct 13 with 1599 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:02 - Oct 13 by noggin |
Maybe you should listen to The United Nations rather than a politician who is trying to win future votes. |
United Nations, sure!! | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:09 - Oct 13 with 1574 views | noggin |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:06 - Oct 13 by Zapers |
United Nations, sure!! |
You're coming across as a bit of a bigot zapers old chap. | |
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| Eye for an eye on 10:11 - Oct 13 with 1551 views | pointofblue |
| Eye for an eye on 09:51 - Oct 13 by Dyland |
It's depressingly predictable and exactly what Hamas sought.
Wrong filter btw. |
And it's exactly why Hamas are telling the civilians to stay put. They care more about using them as shields over the tunnels than they do protecting the people. The Israeli response was sadly all to predictable yet Hamas still decided to carry out their barbaric act last weekend and put Gaza even more in the firing line in the process.
Not that this excuses Israel for their reaction but, for Hamas, the destruction of Israel is more important than protecting their people. | |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:13 - Oct 13 with 1545 views | OldFart71 |
Israel is saying it is bombing Hamas. But when you see the pictures everything is flattened. A young girl having lost all her relatives. Whilst it was a teribble thing that Hamas did killing 1,200 people, also killing babies and beheading soldiers in my humble opinion killing everything in sight in Gaza isn't right. But then take the second World War where London was bombed, along with Coventry and likewise where we flatten places like Dresden in Germany. War unfortunately doesn't segregate the innocent from the guilty. The problem may be if it escalates beyond as Iran would like Israel wiped off the face of the Earth. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:18 - Oct 13 with 1520 views | Zapers |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:09 - Oct 13 by noggin |
You're coming across as a bit of a bigot zapers old chap. |
Whatever you think old chap! United nations is toothless, just refer to Zelensk. | | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:31 - Oct 13 with 1478 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:03 - Oct 13 by blueasfook |
I suspect they'll all clear off once the ground operation starts. They'll just hop it over the border into Lebanon. As soon as IDF have gone, they'll come back. I dont think a ground operation is going to achieve its aim of wiping out Hamas. |
"They'll just hop it over the border into Lebanon." how does that work? | |
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| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:49 - Oct 13 with 1397 views | Blueschev |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 21:16 - Oct 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Ask Ehud Olmert how that would work out. |
I imagine he'd say "just offer them a deal that you know they'll never accept, then blame them for talks breaking down, isolate their leaders leading to a power vacuum that will allow jihadist lunatics to take power." |  | | |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:51 - Oct 13 with 1374 views | BlueForYou |
| I think it might be time to stop bombing kids in Gaza now on 10:31 - Oct 13 by lowhouseblue |
"They'll just hop it over the border into Lebanon." how does that work? |
Hopping over the Egyptian border to the south might be a better option maybe? |  | | |
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