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Surely more fun to let a mob do it? 19:50 - Jun 9 with 4367 views

Tonight, we have removed the statue of slave trader Robert Milligan that previously stood at West India Quay. We have also announced a review into monuments and other sites in our borough to understand how we should represent the more troubling periods in our history. pic.twitter.com/Thfz3UHU96
— Tower Hamlets Council (@TowerHamletsNow) June 9, 2020

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 19:52 - Jun 9 with 3013 views

Libero

That’s tangible change. Fair play Tower Hamlets.

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 19:56 - Jun 9 with 2981 views

Marshalls_Mullet

I suspect a raft of changes to street names is due in Liverpool.

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Pinewoodblue

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 19:56 - Jun 9 by Marshalls_Mullet
I suspect a raft of changes to street names is due in Liverpool.

Penny Lane for one.

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pointofblue

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:00 - Jun 9 by Pinewoodblue
Penny Lane for one.

Possibly not; a historian who specialises in slavery found no evidence in it being named after James Penny and instead believes it’s named after a nearby hill.

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Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:13 - Jun 9 with 2901 views

factual_blue

WHERE WERE YOU TOMMY? OUR PROUD SLAVE TRADERS NEED YOU!

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gordon

Be interesting to see how it affects the livery companies / merchant societies or whatever you call them across the bigger cities, who tend to be the ones (along with Nigel Farage etc.) who feel most strongly about maintaining the status quo.

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:19 - Jun 9 with 2877 views

gordon

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:13 - Jun 9 by factual_blue
WHERE WERE YOU TOMMY? OUR PROUD SLAVE TRADERS NEED YOU!

He's been busy looking for a statue of a muslim to tear down, I think.

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Ftnfwest

Gandhi one is next apparently

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BlueBadger

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:23 - Jun 9 by Ftnfwest
Gandhi one is next apparently

This was neither as edgy or as clever as you think.

[Post edited 9 Jun 2020 22:16]

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gordon

There's a nice thread here about it below - this is an opportunity to learn how to democratise our public spaces while also learning more about our nation's history, and think about the kinds of stories we want to celebrate.

Some thoughts on history, memory and the removal of public statues â€“ and where we might go from here. [THREAD]
— Robert Saunders (@redhistorian) June 9, 2020

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Ftnfwest

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:27 - Jun 9 by BlueBadger
This was neither as edgy or as clever as you think. [Post edited 9 Jun 2020 22:16]

Neither was the graffiti on his statue, although in all honesty he was a bit too keen on hitler for my liking.

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Swansea_Blue

Change is a comming. Time for people to decide whther they want to be on the right side of history.

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Plums

It’s more expensive to pull it out of the dock than to lift it down now. It’s a good call.

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gordon

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:39 - Jun 9 by Swansea_Blue
Change is a comming. Time for people to decide whther they want to be on the right side of history.

Difficult to see poor old Cecil Rhodes lasting much longer.

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:42 - Jun 9 with 2769 views

gordon

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:40 - Jun 9 by Plums
It’s more expensive to pull it out of the dock than to lift it down now. It’s a good call.

Someone would have to sign off the risk assessment, as well.

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factual_blue

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:37 - Jun 9 by Ftnfwest
Neither was the graffiti on his statue, although in all honesty he was a bit too keen on hitler for my liking.

Does 'being a bit too keen on hitler' cover these words in the second of his two letters to the German leader?

'Such are your humiliation of Czechoslovakia, the rape of Poland and the swallowing of Denmark. I am aware that your view of life regards such spoliations as virtuous acts. But we have been taught from childhood to regard them as acts degrading humanity...'

And whilst he addressed hitler as 'dear friend', that should be seen in the context of his statement that Dear friend, that I address you as a friend is no formality. I own no foes.'

https://www.indiatoday.in/news-analysis/story/when-mahatma-gandhi-chided-hitler-

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Ftnfwest

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:44 - Jun 9 by factual_blue

No it was the bit where he waited for the battle of France to be lost and then ordered us to surrender to a ‘good man’

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jeera

You don't have to follow the comments far to find some pretty vile off shoots.

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Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:28 - Jun 9 with 2641 views

BanksterDebtSlave

Is there a crane that can lift the UK and dump it somewhere too while they are at it?

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Marshalls_Mullet

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:28 - Jun 9 by BanksterDebtSlave
Is there a crane that can lift the UK and dump it somewhere too while they are at it?

Do u live in the UK?

Poll:

Would Lambert have acheived better results than Cook if given the same resources

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gordon

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:28 - Jun 9 by BanksterDebtSlave
Is there a crane that can lift the UK and dump it somewhere too while they are at it?

Where would you park your crane?

You'd surely have more luck getting some leverage under Durdle Door with a crowbar and trying to flip the whole thing upside down onto Dogger Bank.

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Swansea_Blue

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 20:37 - Jun 9 by gordon
There's a nice thread here about it below - this is an opportunity to learn how to democratise our public spaces while also learning more about our nation's history, and think about the kinds of stories we want to celebrate. Some thoughts on history, memory and the removal of public statues â€“ and where we might go from here. [THREAD] — Robert Saunders (@redhistorian) June 9, 2020

I've stumbled across that fella before (not surprsisingly, we're probably in the same echo chamber!).

He posts some interesting and thought provoking stuff. He captures my unease over the vandalism versus constitutional change really well in that thread. It's taken a bit of anarchy to get the system to move so sometimes it's necessary.

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Do you think Pert is key to all of this?

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:42 - Jun 9 with 2591 views

BanksterDebtSlave

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:40 - Jun 9 by gordon
Where would you park your crane? You'd surely have more luck getting some leverage under Durdle Door with a crowbar and trying to flip the whole thing upside down onto Dogger Bank.

Eire....they have earned it!

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BanksterDebtSlave

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:34 - Jun 9 by Marshalls_Mullet
Do u live in the UK?

I live on planet Earth maaaaaaan!

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Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:49 - Jun 9 with 2579 views

BlueBadger

Surely more fun to let a mob do it? on 21:28 - Jun 9 by BanksterDebtSlave
Is there a crane that can lift the UK and dump it somewhere too while they are at it?

You disgust me Banksy. Surely you can fins a scrap man that'll offer us triple figures?

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