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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? 20:37 - Dec 26 with 4992 viewsChondzoresk

After a poor performance my step son waited at the end of the match to try and get Alan Judge’s shirt. He’s been doing this for some home matches now by holding his Irish Flag up. As an older fan walked past went up to him and aggressively asked him if he was “a member and supporter of the IRA”.

Now my step son is half Irish, but very, very much a Town fan for some years and myself for 40 years.

It wasn’t a political flag just the Irish tricolour with “Judgey, please can I have your shirt” written on it. My son is fuming, as I am. This person also insulted Alan Judge too. (But wasn’t in ear shot at the time.)

Just a quick question. Do we report this to the club?

A massive thank you to Alan Judge for actually bringing his shirt over to him.

Thanks guys!

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:44 - Dec 26 with 3556 viewshaynes_toe1

Just sounds like a possibly drunk, p*ssed off fan.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:48 - Dec 26 with 3450 viewsMullet

Up to you, but I doubt you’ll get very far by reporting it to the club. I guess you’d have to consider whether you think it’s racially charged enough to get the police involved if you want some sort of outcome. Without CCTV and clear ID you’ll struggle though.

Either way it’s sh1tty and I hope your son doesn’t dwell on it too much. If someone spoke to my boy in that way I can’t imagine I’d be diplomatic. I saw a few handbags in the Churchmans so I wonder if the festive booze and short tempers got the better of a few today.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:49 - Dec 26 with 3438 viewsLeoMuff

Sorry to hear that, unfortunately idiots with 1 brain cell are common place and frequently feel the need to show their lack of grey matter.

I can’t imagine the club can do much about it and I would forget it and move on, but I hope you managed some witty put down or ego crushing response to make you feel better.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:54 - Dec 26 with 3337 viewsChondzoresk

Thanks guys. My son just ignored the idiot, but was a bit pi55ed off about it and reported it to me when he got home. We won’t dwell on it, we will move on.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:55 - Dec 26 with 3324 viewsMoriarty

I would report that. I can understand the offence you both feel.

It is racist.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:01 - Dec 26 with 3247 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

Poor from that fan. I think flags that ask for shirts are a bit cringe but each to their own, people can't say that Speak to the club

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:02 - Dec 26 with 3212 viewsMVBlue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:54 - Dec 26 by Chondzoresk

Thanks guys. My son just ignored the idiot, but was a bit pi55ed off about it and reported it to me when he got home. We won’t dwell on it, we will move on.


Theres no need for it, poor. I think some rogues from the older era hold on to the Irish flag negative impression, missed out on the fact that times changed. I went to the Lions tour down under. A fellow ex-pat brought some Chelsea club fans to the union club game at Melbourne. The Lions is of course Britain and Ireland. Some had hung their Irish flag. The Chelsea guys took photos in front with abusive signings. Some people just can’t let go, they’re a bit sad.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:06 - Dec 26 with 3156 viewsmos

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:44 - Dec 26 by haynes_toe1

Just sounds like a possibly drunk, p*ssed off fan.


Ah, so it’s alright then is it?

There’s no excuse for racism.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:09 - Dec 26 with 3117 viewsSwansea_Blue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:06 - Dec 26 by mos

Ah, so it’s alright then is it?

There’s no excuse for racism.


It’s not racism though (from what we’ve been told). It’s xenophobic, lazy and stupid. Loads of idiots about these days who have problems with anything foreign.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:12 - Dec 26 with 3082 viewsBLUEBEAT

The new CCTV system is nuts - if you report it, they will find him by pinpointing the incident and then tracing him back to his seat.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:14 - Dec 26 with 3048 viewsChondzoresk

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:12 - Dec 26 by BLUEBEAT

The new CCTV system is nuts - if you report it, they will find him by pinpointing the incident and then tracing him back to his seat.


Cheers, we will be going down this root tomorrow with the club.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:16 - Dec 26 with 3020 viewsWD19

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:14 - Dec 26 by Chondzoresk

Cheers, we will be going down this root tomorrow with the club.


If you do that someone will have to grub around with the cctv.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:38 - Dec 26 with 2747 viewsfooters

Although seemingly easy to downplay nowadays, it's easy to forget how much racism there was towards the Irish community not so long ago in this country. Most people have moved on since then, but sadly some small-minded tosspots remain.

It's still xenophobic whichever way you slice it.

Sorry it happened to your step son.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:38 - Dec 26 with 2741 viewsjas0999

Sounds like an ignorant ‘fan’. Doubt there is much the club can do about it, but it’s your decision whether to report it.

Whatever you decide to do though, this type of behaviour is not acceptable. Tough one really.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:43 - Dec 26 with 2678 viewsOxford_Blue

It’s unpleasant behaviour and I understand why you’d be upset (and your son).

But - there was nothing racist or unlawful. Probably just a pissed off and / or drunk fan.

I doubt there is much point in reporting it.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 21:55 - Dec 26 with 2541 viewsChateauWines

100 per cent yes

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:08 - Dec 26 with 2191 viewsOxford_Blue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 20:55 - Dec 26 by Moriarty

I would report that. I can understand the offence you both feel.

It is racist.


It’s not racism because the Irish aren’t a race.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:14 - Dec 26 with 2173 viewsfooters

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:08 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

It’s not racism because the Irish aren’t a race.


An the muslamics ain't a race eiver guv. Fair game.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:16 - Dec 26 with 2163 viewsOxford_Blue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:14 - Dec 26 by footers

An the muslamics ain't a race eiver guv. Fair game.


It’s a religion. It’s a protected characteristic.

As is nationality.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:16 - Dec 26 with 2158 viewsfactual_blue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:08 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

It’s not racism because the Irish aren’t a race.


We are all members of the same 'race'.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:18 - Dec 26 with 2163 viewseireblue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:08 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

It’s not racism because the Irish aren’t a race.


You are wrong.

Race definition:

1. A group of people identified as distinct from other groups because of supposed physical or genetic traits shared by the group. Most biologists and anthropologists do not recognize race as a biologically valid classification, in part because there is more genetic variation within groups than between them.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the Celtic race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
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Irish people have a common history.

It is a racist comment.

It should be reported.

As with all groups of people that get abuse, it is the group, not the abuser that gets to decide what is un-acceptable.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:18 - Dec 26 with 2150 viewsOxford_Blue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:16 - Dec 26 by factual_blue

We are all members of the same 'race'.


Sixth form debate thread here we go....

Human race obviously.

But we are clearly split into different sub races. This isn’t controversial.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:20 - Dec 26 with 2135 viewsfooters

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:18 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

Sixth form debate thread here we go....

Human race obviously.

But we are clearly split into different sub races. This isn’t controversial.


As a second year I would recommend you don't take part.

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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:21 - Dec 26 with 2123 viewsjeera

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:18 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

Sixth form debate thread here we go....

Human race obviously.

But we are clearly split into different sub races. This isn’t controversial.


There's no reason whatsoever to focus on this.

The point of the thread was the abuse, the indication of which was clear.

The semantics aren't important surely.

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:22 - Dec 26 with 2119 viewseireblue

Abuse My Step Son received today, report to club? on 22:18 - Dec 26 by Oxford_Blue

Sixth form debate thread here we go....

Human race obviously.

But we are clearly split into different sub races. This isn’t controversial.


Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism
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