| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home 22:25 - Apr 23 with 7561 views | unstableblue |
Coming back for pre-season and to stake a claim
Coming back having been named in the League One team of the season certainly gives McKenna something to think about |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:20 - Apr 24 with 1244 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:13 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
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I don’t like to tempt fate but frankly now who cares.
Out;
KVY
Harper
El Miz
Piggott
Penney
Ahadme
Ndaba
Aluko
Evans
Edwards
Keogh
TJJ
Hirst
And I’d be surprised although happy if we offer Luongo something. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 10:24]
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:21 - Apr 24 with 1232 views | clive_baker |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:13 - Apr 24 by textbackup |
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10 is probably a bit punchy but 8 out wouldn't surprise me. There's some very obvious suspects like Keogh, KVY, Aluko, Penney, Coleman who are all out of contract and will likely leave. Evans, Pigott, Jackson, Harper going into their final year. Wouldn't be surprised of 2 or 3 of them leave. Presume we would be open to interest in Ahadme and Harness too.
From the whispers I've heard we're going to be pretty aggressive in the market if we get into the Championship. The ambition is higher than perhaps people dare to believe. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:26 - Apr 24 with 1205 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:20 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
I don’t like to tempt fate but frankly now who cares.
Out;
KVY
Harper
El Miz
Piggott
Penney
Ahadme
Ndaba
Aluko
Evans
Edwards
Keogh
TJJ
Hirst
And I’d be surprised although happy if we offer Luongo something. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 10:24]
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I think you're probably not far off there. Some of them might just be loans out but yeah, more or less can see that departure list. I do think we will almost certainly see Luongo back here next season though. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:32 - Apr 24 with 1188 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:26 - Apr 24 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think you're probably not far off there. Some of them might just be loans out but yeah, more or less can see that departure list. I do think we will almost certainly see Luongo back here next season though. |
I was tempted to add Morsy but there is only so much abuse even I can take. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:33 - Apr 24 with 1191 views | Mookamoo |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 08:01 - Apr 24 by Daninthecampo |
If we go up i expect we'll buy another CM so unless El Miz has dramatically improved I can't see how he gets in the matchday squad
Camara's game is totally different to morsy/luongo which has worked really well, maybe Mck will push him further forward as backup for Chaplin/Broadhead? |
I can see Camara being an alternative to Broadhead. He was bought to be the player able to take the ball 30-40 yards so we can play in their 3rd of the pitch, which is what Broadhead now offers. What do you then do with Edwards?
Not sure about Camara and Broadhead in the same team. What has been so good about Luongo is how he covers the space Broadhead leaves behind. |  | | |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:33 - Apr 24 with 1191 views | ReusersTown |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 00:58 - Apr 24 by BondiBlue |
You do wonder about evans. Brilliant for the first ten games BUT mckenna spent 500k on another CM on deadline day and i'm not sure evans fits mckenna's apparent preference for energetic midfielders who can press. If camara had been fit at any point this season, you'd assume he'd have been first choice (or 2nd behind morsy obviously). Now we also have luongo who's undroppable and surely has to be signed up for next season. Pecking order at the moment therefore is something like:
1 morsy
2 luongo
3 camara
4 evans
5 ball
6 humphreys
7 el mizouni
8 harper
If we sign taylor that surely puts evans 5th choice. Big question mark over ball if that were to happen, although mckenna clearly likes him. Either way, 8 midfielders is mad so you'd imagine at least 3 would leave permanently or on loan. |
As much as I like Luongo his injury history and tbf the rest of our midfield injuries this year, probably means that sort of back is going to be required. Unless we sign a new midfielder that blows them all out of the water and Luongo becomes backup. | | | |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:41 - Apr 24 with 1172 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:19 - Apr 24 by BiGDonnie |
You'd be last for my pick of managers if we had to pick from TWTD. I'd even pick Frimmers and Talkins(te ahead of you. |
I did say team which had confused some people, but first 11 specifically if we go up I think there are only 4 or 5 who are nailed on if we go up and bring in the quality McK wants. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:41 - Apr 24 with 1175 views | J2BLUE |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 08:26 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
10 out 8 minimum in be my guess. |
No chance unless you're going to end up claiming a load of academy players were part of your prediction. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:46 - Apr 24 with 1171 views | Mookamoo |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:20 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
I don’t like to tempt fate but frankly now who cares.
Out;
KVY
Harper
El Miz
Piggott
Penney
Ahadme
Ndaba
Aluko
Evans
Edwards
Keogh
TJJ
Hirst
And I’d be surprised although happy if we offer Luongo something. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 10:24]
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At what point do we factor in unwanted departures?
Walton to someone like Burnley or Southampton as their reliable backup for a few bob.
Woolfenden to Palace for 9 million
Edwards to someone like Hull for 2 million | | | |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:04 - Apr 24 with 1135 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:19 - Apr 24 by BiGDonnie |
You'd be last for my pick of managers if we had to pick from TWTD. I'd even pick Frimmers and Talkins(te ahead of you. |
Well I did say we should go in for that striker Ladapo. Didn't turn out to bad ;) |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:14 - Apr 24 with 1096 views | Herbivore |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:41 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
I did say team which had confused some people, but first 11 specifically if we go up I think there are only 4 or 5 who are nailed on if we go up and bring in the quality McK wants. |
I would be very surprised if all of the following aren't starting next season in our first XI:
Walton
Clarke
Woolfenden
Davis
Morsy
Chaplin
Broadhead
That's six players right off the bat, and I think Burns has a greater than 50% chance of starting the season in the first XI too given how well he fits McKenna's system. Wouldn't be a huge surprise if Burgess was in there, although I think we'll upgrade or reinforce at CB in the summer. If we sign Hirst permanently you can probably add him to the list of starters as well. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:16 - Apr 24 with 1085 views | StokieBlue |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:14 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
I would be very surprised if all of the following aren't starting next season in our first XI:
Walton
Clarke
Woolfenden
Davis
Morsy
Chaplin
Broadhead
That's six players right off the bat, and I think Burns has a greater than 50% chance of starting the season in the first XI too given how well he fits McKenna's system. Wouldn't be a huge surprise if Burgess was in there, although I think we'll upgrade or reinforce at CB in the summer. If we sign Hirst permanently you can probably add him to the list of starters as well. |
I think it will be heavy investment in quality through the core. CB, CM and CF (hopefully Hirst but if not then someone else of high quality).
That's assuming we go up of course.
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:24 - Apr 24 with 1045 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:41 - Apr 24 by J2BLUE |
No chance unless you're going to end up claiming a load of academy players were part of your prediction. |
List is on this page my G. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:27 - Apr 24 with 1013 views | Herbivore |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:24 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
List is on this page my G. |
You've included TJJ, who is a loanee. That's a scoundrel's move. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:36 - Apr 24 with 1007 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:46 - Apr 24 by Mookamoo |
At what point do we factor in unwanted departures?
Walton to someone like Burnley or Southampton as their reliable backup for a few bob.
Woolfenden to Palace for 9 million
Edwards to someone like Hull for 2 million |
Unless it’s an insane offer from the Prem I’d be surprised if we let anyone under contract go, unless they request. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:45 - Apr 24 with 981 views | itfcjoe |
Just to add my midfield thoughts to this generally to the thread - I'd do something like this assuming we are promoted:
Morsy - Keep
Luongo - Most probably keep
Ball - keep
Evans - Move on
Camara - potentially move on
El Mizouni - keep at Ipswich as back up
Humphreys - loan spell at a top L1 side
Harper - move on
Sign a new CM for serious money to improve us as a nailed on starter
Leave us with Morsy, new starter, Ball, El Mizouni and probably Luongo as the 5 to cover 3 positions |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:47 - Apr 24 with 973 views | BiGDonnie |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:04 - Apr 24 by FrimleyBlue |
Well I did say we should go in for that striker Ladapo. Didn't turn out to bad ;) |
Fair play, that's what puts you just above Chico. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:59 - Apr 24 with 940 views | Herbivore |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:45 - Apr 24 by itfcjoe |
Just to add my midfield thoughts to this generally to the thread - I'd do something like this assuming we are promoted:
Morsy - Keep
Luongo - Most probably keep
Ball - keep
Evans - Move on
Camara - potentially move on
El Mizouni - keep at Ipswich as back up
Humphreys - loan spell at a top L1 side
Harper - move on
Sign a new CM for serious money to improve us as a nailed on starter
Leave us with Morsy, new starter, Ball, El Mizouni and probably Luongo as the 5 to cover 3 positions |
I wouldn't be surprised if we sent Camara out until January to get regular game time, unless he looks to be absolutely flying in preseason. Five senior CMs feels like a lot for two starting positions and one on the bench, although with the injuries we've had this season we've needed that kind of depth. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 13:01 - Apr 24 with 850 views | tractordownsouth |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 09:46 - Apr 24 by Mookamoo |
At what point do we factor in unwanted departures?
Walton to someone like Burnley or Southampton as their reliable backup for a few bob.
Woolfenden to Palace for 9 million
Edwards to someone like Hull for 2 million |
Walton's spoken about the importance of getting regular football in a settled environment after spending so long as a back up at Brighton and out on loan so I don't think that sort of move would appeal. He's reportedly our highest earner anyway, so once you add in a probable promotion bonus, being the back up somewhere like Burnley might not even give him a pay increase.
On Woolfenden, I doubt anybody will spend £9m on a 24-year-old defender who's never played 90 minutes above League One. If we go up and he adapts well, he's got the attributes to be of interest to Premier League teams but I think they'll want at least a season's worth of evidence that he's capable of playing in the Championship before chucking that kind of money at us.
Edwards is a more realistic departure. Fingers crossed he sticks around though because the chaos he injects into games off the bench is brilliant and he seems like a good character to have around the squad.
I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Edmundson or Burgess leave if we go up. I think they'd both be capable deputies in the Championship but not sure they'd be starters and having two back ups for that position might be excessive. Burgess has been the better player this season but Edmundson's ceiling is higher so which would be sold isn't clear. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:05 - Apr 24 with 771 views | Mookamoo |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 13:01 - Apr 24 by tractordownsouth |
Walton's spoken about the importance of getting regular football in a settled environment after spending so long as a back up at Brighton and out on loan so I don't think that sort of move would appeal. He's reportedly our highest earner anyway, so once you add in a probable promotion bonus, being the back up somewhere like Burnley might not even give him a pay increase.
On Woolfenden, I doubt anybody will spend £9m on a 24-year-old defender who's never played 90 minutes above League One. If we go up and he adapts well, he's got the attributes to be of interest to Premier League teams but I think they'll want at least a season's worth of evidence that he's capable of playing in the Championship before chucking that kind of money at us.
Edwards is a more realistic departure. Fingers crossed he sticks around though because the chaos he injects into games off the bench is brilliant and he seems like a good character to have around the squad.
I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Edmundson or Burgess leave if we go up. I think they'd both be capable deputies in the Championship but not sure they'd be starters and having two back ups for that position might be excessive. Burgess has been the better player this season but Edmundson's ceiling is higher so which would be sold isn't clear. |
Those were just hypotheticals. My point is, no one seems to be contemplating losing a player we consider to be integral to the team. Edmundson and Burgess we can live without.
With all the best will in the world, if someone came in and offered Walton £30k a week to be a backup, he would be off like a shot. And I can't believe, given our defensive record and Woolfenden's part in passing out from the back, he isn't on someones wipeboard for possible summer signings. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 14:22]
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:33 - Apr 24 with 746 views | jayessess |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 01:40 - Apr 24 by Westcountryblue |
Would prefer us to keep El Miz and send Humphreys out on loan to a League One side. If we do end up in the Championship, Evans and Ball may be moved on for my dynamic, technical player suited to playing at that level. Great to have such dilemas |
Ball's ability to play centre back plays in his favour there I'd say. |  |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:41 - Apr 24 with 722 views | tractordownsouth |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:05 - Apr 24 by Mookamoo |
Those were just hypotheticals. My point is, no one seems to be contemplating losing a player we consider to be integral to the team. Edmundson and Burgess we can live without.
With all the best will in the world, if someone came in and offered Walton £30k a week to be a backup, he would be off like a shot. And I can't believe, given our defensive record and Woolfenden's part in passing out from the back, he isn't on someones wipeboard for possible summer signings. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 14:22]
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Fair play. I think the most likely unwanted departure would probably be Davis or Clarke, with both having been at Premier League clubs recently and at an age where there’s a good chance they can return to that level eventually. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:49 - Apr 24 with 691 views | J2BLUE |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 10:24 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
List is on this page my G. |
Realistic list to be fair.
I'd forgotten half of those exist. Makes much more sense than thinking 8+ of a typical match day squad would be on their way. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 15:07 - Apr 24 with 645 views | chicoazul |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 14:49 - Apr 24 by J2BLUE |
Realistic list to be fair.
I'd forgotten half of those exist. Makes much more sense than thinking 8+ of a typical match day squad would be on their way. |
7 of those are first team squad regulars. | |
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| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 15:24 - Apr 24 with 589 views | Herbivore |
| Kudos to El Miz… he’s coming home on 15:07 - Apr 24 by chicoazul |
7 of those are first team squad regulars. |
Which 7? Of your list, only Evans, Edwards and Hirst make the matchday 18 when fit, TJJ was as well but whether he would now is less certain. Also doesn't sit right to call loanees departures as they were never a permanent squad member to begin with. [Post edited 24 Apr 2023 15:26]
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