| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:29 - Apr 14 with 2107 views | footers |
Lol. The public gets what the public wants.
But remember: they both knew exactly what they were voting for and were totally right to do it, but also totally misled and how could anyone have ever seen this happening etc.
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:34 - Apr 14 with 2084 views | Dubtractor |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:29 - Apr 14 by footers |
Lol. The public gets what the public wants.
But remember: they both knew exactly what they were voting for and were totally right to do it, but also totally misled and how could anyone have ever seen this happening etc.
Lol. |
Mumblemumblesomethingaboutprojectfearmumblemumble.... |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:36 - Apr 14 with 2077 views | jeera |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:34 - Apr 14 by Dubtractor |
Mumblemumblesomethingaboutprojectfearmumblemumble.... |
I hate to add this but there is also the roundly mocked Cameron's claim that a broken EU could even help lead to a WW3.
Most of us seem to have forgotten that particular one. Including me.
Doesn't sound quite so stupid now after all. |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:42 - Apr 14 with 2061 views | Mullet |
How many decades will the ripple effect of this be felt for do we think? |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:46 - Apr 14 with 2046 views | J2BLUE |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:36 - Apr 14 by jeera |
I hate to add this but there is also the roundly mocked Cameron's claim that a broken EU could even help lead to a WW3.
Most of us seem to have forgotten that particular one. Including me.
Doesn't sound quite so stupid now after all. |
Bit of a stretch that one. It can be twisted to fit but no chance this would be any different if we were still in the EU. |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:53 - Apr 14 with 2019 views | jeera |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:46 - Apr 14 by J2BLUE |
Bit of a stretch that one. It can be twisted to fit but no chance this would be any different if we were still in the EU. |
I don't think it's that of a stretch, not when considering all the talk of divide and conquer; as in accusations of Russian involvement in US elections, our referendum etc.
It's no longer a shock is it that looking back we can now see how they have been encroaching bit by bit.
Money, corruption, poisonings, trolling on social media, flying up and down our coastline, ships, submarines all testing our capabilities.
I know some of that isn't new before anyone points out the obvious, but equally we also know this present situation has been planned for quite some time.
The recent summit where the UK was snubbed. You don't think that raised a smirk somewhere in Moscow?
The circumstances have been primed as much as possible. The timing isn't a coincidence is it.
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:57 - Apr 14 with 1976 views | J2BLUE |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:53 - Apr 14 by jeera |
I don't think it's that of a stretch, not when considering all the talk of divide and conquer; as in accusations of Russian involvement in US elections, our referendum etc.
It's no longer a shock is it that looking back we can now see how they have been encroaching bit by bit.
Money, corruption, poisonings, trolling on social media, flying up and down our coastline, ships, submarines all testing our capabilities.
I know some of that isn't new before anyone points out the obvious, but equally we also know this present situation has been planned for quite some time.
The recent summit where the UK was snubbed. You don't think that raised a smirk somewhere in Moscow?
The circumstances have been primed as much as possible. The timing isn't a coincidence is it.
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Agree with all that but imagine we stayed in the EU. Would Russia not have attacked? It would make zero difference. It was clearly a common about EU countries cooperating. The war started when a non EU country attacked a non EU country. Sounds like Russia were surprised by the united response and this was far more about NATO being seen as weak. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:03 - Apr 14 with 1939 views | jeera |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:57 - Apr 14 by J2BLUE |
Agree with all that but imagine we stayed in the EU. Would Russia not have attacked? It would make zero difference. It was clearly a common about EU countries cooperating. The war started when a non EU country attacked a non EU country. Sounds like Russia were surprised by the united response and this was far more about NATO being seen as weak. |
Sorry, added this bit as you were replying, which was of course the point I meant.
"The circumstances have been primed as much as possible. The timing isn't a coincidence is it."
Would things have been different? We don't know.
But we do know the US is more split than ever, as are we, so if there was ever a time to make a move. The mood isn't one for war in the States right now, not after years of foreign campaigns and what with the internal split too due to Trump being manipulated the way he has been, groomed nicely that one.
As you say yourself, the response wasn't accounted for and couldn't be to be fair. They can only work as much as they can to favour their chances which they seem to have done. [Post edited 14 Apr 2022 22:05]
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:28 - Apr 14 with 1880 views | factual_blue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 21:42 - Apr 14 by Mullet |
How many decades will the ripple effect of this be felt for do we think? |
It'll go on until, as Johnny Mathis sang, the 12th of never. |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:36 - Apr 14 with 1854 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
On the plus side I got to be on the winning side in a vote for the only time ever so that has to count for something and globalist Capitalism does seem to be in crisis so...... |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:41 - Apr 14 with 1860 views | footers |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:36 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
On the plus side I got to be on the winning side in a vote for the only time ever so that has to count for something and globalist Capitalism does seem to be in crisis so...... |
I know you're joking, but that's mainly the reason for the vote.
People who've never been on the winning side now thinking they are.
Guess what? You're not. And you've made millions of people's lives worse because of it. But hey ho, not mine I guess. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 with 1843 views | Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:58 - Apr 14 with 1816 views | footers |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |
How is the UK going to benefit by leaving the EU, Lucan? Please enlighten us. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:05 - Apr 14 with 1797 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |
I have heard this line from a leave supporter before. Got to give it 10 years to start to see the benefits. I am sorry, the people most badly affected by this really cannot afford 10 years of misery before there are some perceived benefits. Benefits to whom too? Your supposition that the EU is set to self-implode rely on countries leaving. If the UK had not left then that would have kept it stronger! |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:08 - Apr 14 with 1778 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:41 - Apr 14 by footers |
I know you're joking, but that's mainly the reason for the vote.
People who've never been on the winning side now thinking they are.
Guess what? You're not. And you've made millions of people's lives worse because of it. But hey ho, not mine I guess. |
Never have so many people purporting to long for radical change been so wedded to the neo Liberal status quo.( Perhaps they're just too comfortable when all is said and done) Sometimes you just have to start breaking things before they get meaningfully fixed. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:10 - Apr 14 with 1765 views | MattinLondon |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:08 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Never have so many people purporting to long for radical change been so wedded to the neo Liberal status quo.( Perhaps they're just too comfortable when all is said and done) Sometimes you just have to start breaking things before they get meaningfully fixed. |
This means nothing. |  | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:17 - Apr 14 with 1716 views | footers |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:08 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Never have so many people purporting to long for radical change been so wedded to the neo Liberal status quo.( Perhaps they're just too comfortable when all is said and done) Sometimes you just have to start breaking things before they get meaningfully fixed. |
You're a gardener living in rural Britain. Literally none of this affects you. You are isolated from any vote's result. And it shows. Same with covid.
It affects many of my colleagues, our business has had to open another office in Europe, we have difficulty employing EU citizens in the UK and incur more charges for dealing with EU companies than we did before.
You are isolated from it, as you are most things - we are not. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:17 - Apr 14 with 1710 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:10 - Apr 14 by MattinLondon |
This means nothing. |
Spoken like somebody content with business as usual whereas a whole heap of people shat on for decades that the system didn't and still won't work for got to shake things up at least. They voted as they did because ultimately they despise the system and the people who make it work for them. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:21 - Apr 14 with 1696 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:17 - Apr 14 by footers |
You're a gardener living in rural Britain. Literally none of this affects you. You are isolated from any vote's result. And it shows. Same with covid.
It affects many of my colleagues, our business has had to open another office in Europe, we have difficulty employing EU citizens in the UK and incur more charges for dealing with EU companies than we did before.
You are isolated from it, as you are most things - we are not. |
Yep, literally none of it !! Lol.
Trading? | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:30 - Apr 14 with 1679 views | MattinLondon |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:17 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Spoken like somebody content with business as usual whereas a whole heap of people shat on for decades that the system didn't and still won't work for got to shake things up at least. They voted as they did because ultimately they despise the system and the people who make it work for them. |
And they sided with a bunch of Tories who want to rip -up any form of workers rights. Well done for siding with them, their lies and aspirations. | | | |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:47 - Apr 14 with 1636 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:30 - Apr 14 by MattinLondon |
And they sided with a bunch of Tories who want to rip -up any form of workers rights. Well done for siding with them, their lies and aspirations. |
All part of the process of ripping off plasters and blinkers.
Cos trading our way to peace and security (with Russia, China et al) wedded to economic growth and more and more stuff was definitely going to get us all to the promised land!
Seems to me that a lot of folk just wanted to be as comfy as possible (not forgetting their pet passports too) while Rome slowly burned. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:01 - Apr 15 with 1566 views | BlueBadger |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |
I'm guessing it's been a good session tonight. |  |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:03 - Apr 15 with 1554 views | BlueBadger |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:08 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Never have so many people purporting to long for radical change been so wedded to the neo Liberal status quo.( Perhaps they're just too comfortable when all is said and done) Sometimes you just have to start breaking things before they get meaningfully fixed. |
What exactly was it about the openly corrupt, incompetent and bigoted Leave Eu Campaign that appealed to you? | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:04 - Apr 15 with 1540 views | BlueBadger |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 23:47 - Apr 14 by BanksterDebtSlave |
All part of the process of ripping off plasters and blinkers.
Cos trading our way to peace and security (with Russia, China et al) wedded to economic growth and more and more stuff was definitely going to get us all to the promised land!
Seems to me that a lot of folk just wanted to be as comfy as possible (not forgetting their pet passports too) while Rome slowly burned. |
'sure It'll hurt now, but your grandchildren will feel the benefits'.
Ripped straight from the Jacob Rees-Mogg Book Of Lies. | |
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| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 01:37 - Apr 15 with 1508 views | HARRY10 |
| Brexit is balls part 59254852 on 22:51 - Apr 14 by Lord_Lucan |
It's a long burner Dubs
Gotta say - I voted remain and I would vote the same again tomorrow, without a doubt, 100%.
Hooever - I voted remain for complete self interest as I knew / know that my business interests (which completely effect my personal interests) would be better served by remaining in the European Union for the short term
But - I have to say, in my opinion - after maybe 10 years UK PLC will massively benefit by being out of the EU - in fact, in 10 years time the EU will be a busted flush
There is absolutely no way the Euro can survive with Germany telling the likes of Spain what to do - let alone Italy.
And France???? how long do you expect them to play second fiddle to a weakened Germany??? |
I remember when Farage peddled much the same nonsense. The EU would be finished within years as once the UK was out there would be Frexit, Nexit, Greaxit and lord knows how many other exits.
Six years on and we can see it was nothing but baseless lies, put out to re-assure thickos that they were doing the right(ie) thing. We can also see that all the other promises and claims were lies as well. There are no '40 new deals on day one'. In fact there are no 40 new deals at all.
What has happened is the UK has rolled over EI deals, and so doing are obliged to trade under EU schedules. They shout jump and we jump, with no say in the matter. The only new deals are with Japan, AUS and NZ - where in all three cases we have ended up with worse than we had before.
Once a global trading nation we are now slowly sinking into backward looking isolation, hindered by a myriad of petty regulation and checks, introduced after brexit - and we have not even been able to apply this red tape to imports. Too fearful of the consequences.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-food-drink-exports-b202
Around 42% of our trade is with the EU. Thickos thought it would be a good idea to make it harder to trade with our neighbours, and Quelle Surprise, they are taking their trade elsewhere. Importers of UK food and drink are sourcing goofs elsewhere as companies re-locate to the EU.
Unsurprisingly we no longer hear from Farage. Fox, Davis. IDS, Nuttall and the ragbag of other liars. Some like Fox and Davis were 'consultants' for US giants, others like Farage were nothing more than 'tongues for hire', whilst wretches like IDS, Nuttal and the loons of UKIP were simply useful idiots.
And as the ports clog up with worse to come, the move out of the UK for manufacturing will continue. Exports to EU countries continue to slide compared to pre pandemic levels.
And it is not simply trade, as known. Universities are seeing EU students going elsewhere, UK bands are struggling to work in the EU and the fashion industry is similarly struggling with red tape. Right across the UK this level or bureaucracy is dealing the UK a death by a thousand cuts.
As with the tide going out, it is not always easy to see it happening, other than over a long period what was water is no longer water. Comeback after another 12 months and see how much more has ebbed away. |  | | |
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