| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian 11:43 - Mar 15 with 885 views | StokieBlue |
Not that I am surprised, but this is pretty poor science reporting from the Guardian and the emotive headline really doesn't help:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2019/mar/13/driverless-cars-rac
A more accurate report from the Register shines a lot more light on the nuance of the paper:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/10/ai_roundup_080319/
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| “You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point." |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 11:56 - Mar 15 with 842 views | No9 |
Not that google have a financial interest in this? |  | | |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 12:03 - Mar 15 with 825 views | baxterbasics |
Trust the Guardian to turn a story about technology into a race thing! |  |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 12:04 - Mar 15 with 822 views | Swansea_Blue |
That is a bit disingenuous isn't it. I assume they think humanising what is ultimately a pure image classification issue will make it more likely to be clicked on. Effectively this is simply a matter of feature recognition - a huge are in image analysis (more normally in automatic, algorithm-based feature classification in satellite images - e.g. telling the difference between crop types for checking subsidies, identifying different features on slopes for hazard assessment).
Doesn't sound as interesting does it? Racist robots are much sexier. |  |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 12:08 - Mar 15 with 802 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 12:03 - Mar 15 by baxterbasics |
Trust the Guardian to turn a story about technology into a race thing! |
"Lesbian robots denied basic robot rights" | |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:32 - Mar 15 with 739 views | GeoffSentence |
There isnt that much difference between the reports.
They both say that cameras struggle to recognise dark skinned pedestrians.
They both say that there are other types of sensor, radar and lidar, that have no such problems.
The difference is that the Guardian adds that cameras are cheaper and so there is market pressure to use camera only systems.
The reg ignores the coat thing entirely.
I think that the Guardian is right to raise the cost of the better technologies as a concern. |  |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:43 - Mar 15 with 715 views | StokieBlue |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:32 - Mar 15 by GeoffSentence |
There isnt that much difference between the reports.
They both say that cameras struggle to recognise dark skinned pedestrians.
They both say that there are other types of sensor, radar and lidar, that have no such problems.
The difference is that the Guardian adds that cameras are cheaper and so there is market pressure to use camera only systems.
The reg ignores the coat thing entirely.
I think that the Guardian is right to raise the cost of the better technologies as a concern. |
Apart from the massive difference that the Guardian headline declares technology racist which is totally incorrect and emotive.
Why isn't the headline "Costs of technology could prove dangerous" if you think that's the main thrust of the article.
I think it's pretty appalling reporting.
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:45 - Mar 15 with 710 views | J2BLUE |
The Guardian is an awful rag. |  |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:46 - Mar 15 with 699 views | GeoffSentence |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:43 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
Apart from the massive difference that the Guardian headline declares technology racist which is totally incorrect and emotive.
Why isn't the headline "Costs of technology could prove dangerous" if you think that's the main thrust of the article.
I think it's pretty appalling reporting.
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Sure it's an emotive headline, but who just goes on the headline? | |
| In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation.
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:47 - Mar 15 with 692 views | jeera |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:45 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
The Guardian is an awful rag. |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:51 - Mar 15 with 673 views | StokieBlue |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:46 - Mar 15 by GeoffSentence |
Sure it's an emotive headline, but who just goes on the headline? |
I think you'd be surprised.
Why mention racism at all when it's clearly not racist.
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| “You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point." |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:07 - Mar 15 with 651 views | J2BLUE |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:47 - Mar 15 by jeera |
Hmph. |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:16 - Mar 15 with 632 views | jeera |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:07 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
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I like the Guardian. Good recipes too; Felicity Cloake.
Or is it Clark? Obviously I'm a big fan.
I know a Sun journalist whose preferred 'go to' read is the Guardian although I know it could be argued that if you worked on The Sun then any other option may be a welcome read.
Each time I see him he seems to have a small stack of various papers under his arm as he likes to keep up with what the competition are up to. | |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:22 - Mar 15 with 622 views | No9 |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:43 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
Apart from the massive difference that the Guardian headline declares technology racist which is totally incorrect and emotive.
Why isn't the headline "Costs of technology could prove dangerous" if you think that's the main thrust of the article.
I think it's pretty appalling reporting.
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This is how the article starts
"Machine vision’ is struggling to recognise darker-skinned pedestrians, and cost pressures could make things worse"
This is how the article starts
Maybe the author didn't express it very well but it is a fact isn't it?
Robots do have serious problems identifying dark objects
I don't disagree with your point entirely but there is a serious side to it | | | |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:29 - Mar 15 with 609 views | StokieBlue |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:22 - Mar 15 by No9 |
This is how the article starts
"Machine vision’ is struggling to recognise darker-skinned pedestrians, and cost pressures could make things worse"
This is how the article starts
Maybe the author didn't express it very well but it is a fact isn't it?
Robots do have serious problems identifying dark objects
I don't disagree with your point entirely but there is a serious side to it |
It's not racist so labeling it that way allows people to push an agenda.
It's bad algorithms which will improve.
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| “You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point." |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:38 - Mar 15 with 595 views | jeera |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:29 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
It's not racist so labeling it that way allows people to push an agenda.
It's bad algorithms which will improve.
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I assumed it would be tongue-in-cheek to begin with, but having skipped through it, it is a bit daft to be fair.
The author looks -- although wearing a shirt in the photo -- a bit like he could equally be at home wearing a hessian sack. | |
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:43 - Mar 15 with 585 views | GeoffSentence |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:51 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
I think you'd be surprised.
Why mention racism at all when it's clearly not racist.
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On the other hand, your orginal complaint was about the reporting not the headline. I'd agree that the headline is emotive and the sort of thing you'd expect in the Daily Mail et al. As for the actual content of the article, I think it's OK.
As for The Reg, it's kind of a digital technology tabloid, whilst it's no DM I wouldn't hold it up as a paragon of reporting virtue. | |
| In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation.
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:47 - Mar 15 with 575 views | StokieBlue |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 14:43 - Mar 15 by GeoffSentence |
On the other hand, your orginal complaint was about the reporting not the headline. I'd agree that the headline is emotive and the sort of thing you'd expect in the Daily Mail et al. As for the actual content of the article, I think it's OK.
As for The Reg, it's kind of a digital technology tabloid, whilst it's no DM I wouldn't hold it up as a paragon of reporting virtue. |
That's a fair point on the Register, it's still a more thorough article than the Guardian one though. I guess you are correct that my main annoyance in the headline which I really dislike.
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| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 15:15 - Mar 15 with 540 views | Pendejo |
| Unhelpful reporting from the Guardian on 13:45 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
The Guardian is an awful rag. |
Shouldn't that read
The Grauniad sian lawfu arg? |  |
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