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Help out your pubs folks! 11:34 - Sep 24 with 978 viewscatch74

Just seen the Grinning Rat thread as I’ve come on here to add this (and read all the other threads , of course.)
Please sign the petition, if pubs are your thing.

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Duty per pint of 5% beer uk = 54.2p Germany = 4.8p.

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Help out your pubs folks! on 12:06 - Sep 24 with 918 viewsjontysnut

the duty rate on something which is mostly water is ridiculous. Overall, Germany has the second biggest tax burden in the developed world but at least they can afford to drown their sorrows.
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Help out your pubs folks! on 13:41 - Sep 24 with 833 viewsmo_itfc

I've signed and emailed my MP.
Something really should be done about this.
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Help out your pubs folks! on 15:00 - Sep 24 with 790 viewsbrazil1982

How do Wetherspoons get their prices so low? Is it simply mass purchase?
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Help out your pubs folks! on 15:03 - Sep 24 with 784 viewsSpruceMoose

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:00 - Sep 24 by brazil1982

How do Wetherspoons get their prices so low? Is it simply mass purchase?


Could be wrong but I assume they have so much market share that they can just beat breweries and distributors down on cost.

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Help out your pubs folks! on 15:11 - Sep 24 with 769 viewshoppy

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:00 - Sep 24 by brazil1982

How do Wetherspoons get their prices so low? Is it simply mass purchase?


Don't they buy their stock cheap, as it's near the end of it's shelf life and they know they shift it quickly by pricing it low?

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Help out your pubs folks! on 15:38 - Sep 24 with 744 viewsTIB

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:11 - Sep 24 by hoppy

Don't they buy their stock cheap, as it's near the end of it's shelf life and they know they shift it quickly by pricing it low?


Buying in bulk and being able to shift is key...whether it's end of shelf stuff has always been up for debate but would certainly make sense as their prices are unmatchable.

I've not spoken to them but have had talks with a national supermarket chain and again, the prices they wanted units at were ridiculous...being a new start-up / small British business meant nothing.

It's a tough old trade, competition is rife and it just seems like there is a monopoly of companies who control the stakes and make it very difficult for smaller companies to get in. If it was easy it wouldn't be worth it though...so we plod on

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Help out your pubs folks! on 15:43 - Sep 24 with 730 viewsSpruceMoose

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:38 - Sep 24 by TIB

Buying in bulk and being able to shift is key...whether it's end of shelf stuff has always been up for debate but would certainly make sense as their prices are unmatchable.

I've not spoken to them but have had talks with a national supermarket chain and again, the prices they wanted units at were ridiculous...being a new start-up / small British business meant nothing.

It's a tough old trade, competition is rife and it just seems like there is a monopoly of companies who control the stakes and make it very difficult for smaller companies to get in. If it was easy it wouldn't be worth it though...so we plod on


I thought Big Chief Tim Gammon was all about supporting dear old Blighty though?

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Help out your pubs folks! on 20:15 - Sep 24 with 650 viewsstonojnr

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:11 - Sep 24 by hoppy

Don't they buy their stock cheap, as it's near the end of it's shelf life and they know they shift it quickly by pricing it low?


no thats not the case & never likely to have been the case either, its something that gets trotted out all the time, but Ive seen the barrels they get, and the dates on them, and they are exactly the same dates as the beer that ends up anywhere else from a brewery

they have around 900pubs, they can buy beer in bulk and turn it over quickly, which means they buy alot of it, so get volume discount as breweries especially the mass producing breweries volume is key to making beer more cheaply and more profitable

and Spoons probably only make just pennies on a pint selling it, but their operating profit comes through selling food, just like restaurants and gastro pubs, and by ensuring the places they operate in the business rates/leaseholds are not on some horrid ratchet increase every year, they are now also moving into owning the lease themselves so theyll be in full control of their property price, and they arent sentimental, if a pub location doesnt work or isnt working, they drop it, they dont keep trying to find the right tenant for it.

so they keep their costs low, they sell alot of stuff & you can charge lower prices as a result and still make a profit doing that.

most other pubs in the pubco model, are stuck in where they can only buy beer from the people who lease the pub to them, who charge them more than the open market price & the more successful they get, the more they pay the leaseholder to run the pub, and they are often stuck in old buildings who have exceedingly high heating costs, lots of ongoing maintenance that they have to fund themselves, whilst earning enough to live on,whilst paying increasing business rates, wages consequently they have to charge more.
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Help out your pubs folks! on 20:32 - Sep 24 with 627 viewsstonojnr

Help out your pubs folks! on 15:38 - Sep 24 by TIB

Buying in bulk and being able to shift is key...whether it's end of shelf stuff has always been up for debate but would certainly make sense as their prices are unmatchable.

I've not spoken to them but have had talks with a national supermarket chain and again, the prices they wanted units at were ridiculous...being a new start-up / small British business meant nothing.

It's a tough old trade, competition is rife and it just seems like there is a monopoly of companies who control the stakes and make it very difficult for smaller companies to get in. If it was easy it wouldn't be worth it though...so we plod on


few years back so the story goes, a major supermarket said to a major mass producer of lager, drop your unit price, or pay us more money to stock your beer effectively, as you are selling the same stuff to those budget supermarket chains who are selling it cheaper than us,

the major mass producer of lager said no, so the supermarket ditched them and took all their products off the shelves, the mass producer of lager lost 20% of their UK sales in one year and had to issue a profit loss warning about it

the same supermarket then posed the same question or problem to another mass produced lager brewer, who also initially refused, same treatment, they were ditched, but a month or two later they were back on the shelves at the newly agreed price...

volume sellers are big business for the big breweries
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