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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge 11:40 - Apr 1 with 3530 viewshampstead_blue

A few here have jumped into Gove as a 'bare faced liar'.

Ask yourself this.
Do you think he may have been given duff info, not def info?
Just asking.

Some will jump on me as a Tory boy - yawn. The question is the quality of the information.

Not who gave it....the quality.

As things are changing faster than a (insert here) it could be that a junior bod made an assumption and dropped a minister in the pot.

Gove may have been handed proper duff info.......

Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me. Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing. Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial. Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid. Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 10:55 - Apr 2 with 488 viewsNo9

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 09:05 - Apr 2 by longtimefan

You obviously misread my post. I said I'd rather have subject experts dictate policy NOT MPs. I've referring to real experts like the CMO and his colleagues not pill0cks like Cummings. I also didn't vote for this Government!


The OP was aboput Gove - Gove had, had enough of experts, remember?
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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 11:04 - Apr 2 with 473 viewsHerbivore

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 10:51 - Apr 2 by BloomBlue

That wasn't my point, my point was those who defended her made the point humans make errors and that's acceptable, but those same people are now criticising what was potentially a similar human error.
All sides are the same when it comes to politics people have double standards to suit their side of the argument


Do you think that misremembering a number is on the same level as giving a false reason for why testing hasn't been happening? They aren't really the same thing, but interestingly the OP has consistently hammered Abbott for misremembering a number whilst defending Gove for putting out a mistruth.

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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 11:30 - Apr 2 with 461 viewsBlueNomad

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 09:20 - Apr 2 by BloomBlue

But on the flip side those who defended Abbott at the time said everyone is allowed to make mistakes and when you have questions thrown at you by a reporter in a live studio it's easy to get a figure muddled and she's only human, some people said they liked her even more as it proved she was human. Well those same people are now criticising a situation where someone has potentially made a mistake a human error but not giving the same leeway as they gave Abbott. Like most things in life people have double standards to suit their side of the argument when it comes to politics


Abbott was ill on the day she got her numbers wrong. Henrick had to remember one number for an hour.
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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 11:42 - Apr 2 with 456 viewsPinewoodblue

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 12:49 - Apr 1 by hampstead_blue

I think it's a lot different.

Anyhow, my point, as was conferred that someone could have dropped the ball and passed Gove a stinker.

Not sure how many times I can be 'agnostic' for some to get that far.


There are clearly flaws in the procurement procedures that need to be addressed. It the government duty to get to the root of the problem and remove bottlenecks that are causing delay.

Look at the facilities set up for drive in testing. They are set up to do hundreds of tests an hour but hardly anyone is turning up to be tested hence testing opportunities are going to waste, test that could be done not being done.

Is there a lack of political will to sort this out?

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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 12:20 - Apr 2 with 432 viewsgordon

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 11:42 - Apr 2 by Pinewoodblue

There are clearly flaws in the procurement procedures that need to be addressed. It the government duty to get to the root of the problem and remove bottlenecks that are causing delay.

Look at the facilities set up for drive in testing. They are set up to do hundreds of tests an hour but hardly anyone is turning up to be tested hence testing opportunities are going to waste, test that could be done not being done.

Is there a lack of political will to sort this out?


Where is that?
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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 12:47 - Apr 2 with 421 viewsPinewoodblue

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 12:20 - Apr 2 by gordon

Where is that?


?? Where is what?

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The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 15:16 - Apr 2 with 381 viewseireblue

The truth....to the best of one's knowledge on 10:51 - Apr 2 by BloomBlue

That wasn't my point, my point was those who defended her made the point humans make errors and that's acceptable, but those same people are now criticising what was potentially a similar human error.
All sides are the same when it comes to politics people have double standards to suit their side of the argument


The more interesting point is those that were critical of Abbot, should be equally critical of others irrespective party allegiance.

You could call that agnostic I guess.

Of course you could also think that someone getting something wrong whilst is power is slightly different to someone getting something wrong about a policy when not in power.
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