| Everything is awesome 21:52 - Aug 15 with 20349 views | Mullet |
Having seen both league games thus far, it's pretty clear that Cook's decision to be "Demolition Man" might well render his time here a cult classic, rather than the blockbuster we are budgeting for.
It wasn't necessary to rip apart the whole team, it was a decision and direction decided upon, and the first few steps have seen us in the gutter haven't they? Overloaded with attacking depth but unable to find a front 4 that doesn't limit Piggott to playing second balls to new runners or empty spaces for most of his time on the pitch.
He and Fraser have been devastating at this level for smaller teams, as with most of the individuals you can see the potential there but that doesn't mean we are yet. Lots of possession and a clear intent to strafe wide and overload fullbacks. It's ironic we conceded in that way against Burton. KVY finding himself further forward than he managed prior, the whole side gets caught out and once again it's one shot and we are behind.
Cook has been here months, he couldn't make it work with what he had, he has been given way more than anyone else for a long time. It's all well and good pointing to his past at other clubs, but his past at Ipswich and thus his present, is closer to the bloody woeful we've been accustomed to. Pointing that out is not the TWTD equivalent of going to the Vatican and giving the Pope a kick up the ass.
You can probably be assured Cook and his staff will be unhappy with the points tally and the manner in which we've been so generous to teams with far smaller budgets and even more churn in the case of Morecambe.
More worryingly for them might be Ashton and the higher ups. They clearly didn't appoint Cook, they perhaps didn't see prudence in removing him right away either financially or morally when taking over. This is a marriage of convenience in some respects and this summer seems very much like Cook is backing himself, using the dollars available. That could all change very quickly without promotion on the table.
Pretending promotion is beyond this club is equally laughable, especially given all the chiding about "ambition" in recent years and when we were looking to do it in the league above. It absolutely must and should be the minimum we expect. 3 teams will go up, we should be one of them preferably as champions - otherwise this recall to Cook's CV is fairly moot. Let alone the fact we've got rid of Evans' approach and been told everything we wanted to hear for years.
Harper and Edwards look like they belong on the path to being in the league above already, and will hone that claim with game time. The lovely shapes Harper made when we got the ball down and he broke the play up were even better than the few times Dobra and Fraser did it. The fact we then didn't see players getting off shots and were reduced to hoping that flashes across the goal might be turned in yesterday, speaks to how disjointed we are.
The manner in which we conceded a second against Morecambe, seemed to plague us up top yesterday and with so many personnel changes it's not that surprising. Adding Burgess in will help breed some confidence amongst players and fans alike, it's a late but welcome addition in my opinion.
Woolfenden won a fair amount yesterday, Donacien again showed he's incredibly dependable but will never really excel. Given KVY seems to have lost a yard in his feet and another in his head, whether it's fear of getting hurt or a lack of fitness, the idea of replacing him with JD makes the whole system Cook is trying to employ, severely hampered. Regardless he hasn't managed many games for us yet and assuming he should or will is risky still.
Penney like many others seems to have the right ideas but not the right amount of belief or understanding around him. Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe sh1t seems to be the pattern of play we've settled for so far. But that will improve as time goes on. If it doesn't then we truly are a managerial graveyard and need something else drastically.
Fans haven't been in the grounds for over a year and that seems to play on everyone concerned. When we concede the atmosphere whooshes out and away almost instantly. People either side of the lines are unsure about what to say and do, particularly when things don't go as we'd like. But no amount of thought-policing and insistence on being cheery about failing to beat not one, but two teams, we'd never consider rivals to promotion is as wrong as it is tiring.
Just as it seemed there was a place for Toto and Norwood, there now doesn't unless they cycle in as others replace them on the treatment table and the timescales to get the spine sorted makes it little wonder why we've come out of the season crawling along.
Pointing to when and what side X or manager Y did is fairly irrelevant. There isn't a context which lends itself to ITFC completely changing in a matter of weeks and with it expectations and the ability to meet them.
Hladky has looked a far more rounded keeper, our central midfielders as good as those we just sold to promotion chasers in the league above, there's an abundance of threat up top but so far less return than we needed. But we've failed to keep teams out with barely a fight.
This has the makings of the most exciting season since the playoff campaign (because of where it sets us up to be) and there is enough about us to see us do well, but thinking we can just will that into existence is stupid. The longer we ponder and fail to produce wins with regularity the speed with which this league will leave us behind is the one thing we should have gotten used to in the years we've been down here.
It's a massive stain on this club being relegated to this level. It's still very much all over us for now. There's nothing wrong with facing up to that regularly either is there? They've been pretty open with us how long it will take to sort off the field, but on the field it should definitely be a much shorter timescale. |  |
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| Everything is awesome on 14:49 - Aug 17 with 721 views | Mullet |
| Everything is awesome on 23:17 - Aug 16 by olimar |
Pretty sure it will start to come good, but youve basically underlined most of the nagging concerns I have for why it might not.
Regardless of the owners preference for Cook as a manager, he has already asked fans to ignore 15 or so opening games of dire results and performances and loaded it all against a playing squad that had actually been performing better before he arrived. Then he has been presented with a squad of new players that have been selected as specialists for exactly the roles he wants and who have performed very well in those roles at other L1 and above clubs. Some of them have even performed those exact roles very well for Cook himself.
The combimation of both of those points says that Cook should be able to bring the squad together quicker than, say, Blackpool last year, and that if he doesnt there will be shorter patience, having already asked people to wait to see any kind of results for several months.
Add in the fact that the owners potentially want a Championship quality manager, to match the kind of ambition they have shown with the player signings. |
Given how people derided Garbutt's choice to go there and now use Blackpool as a measuring stick is odd isn't it? We're meant to be aiming for nothing less than promotion, ideally as champions.
The changes in personnel possibly indicate the biggest reason for the differences in approach between the games. I thought the movement across the back trying to catch Burton out of shape was encouraging given we were told how difficult it was breaking down Morecambe and the teams coming to us, sitting deep and narrow will prove hard to breakdown too. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 15:51 - Aug 17 with 665 views | Ryorry |
| Everything is awesome on 14:46 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
It's odd there's a thread where unanimously people are expecting 3 pts tonight, and we certainly need it. Some of them have spent the last 48hrs desperately having a pop and trying to get my attention and validate their own inadequacy it seems.
The problem is these people got it very wrong about Jewell / Mick / Hurst even Lambert (to varying degrees) and haven't seemingly learnt from that. This summer was full of triumphalism on here.
Simply "having better players" and "time to gel" were still being bandied about after Morecambe had more changes and played their first game at this level and Burton reversed us.
Cook was a great appointment for where we were, Gamechanger lived up to their name and its hard to know how that lines up but people are now refuting facts left, right and centre again rather than accepting what's evident.
To hear "as long as there's progress" after weeks and months of more HMS Piss the League and promotion talk, makes the desperation to play down how important getting out of this league is. Especially when citing Cook's previous successes in the breath before much of it.
I'd like to hope the lessening margin for error is what produces results. Roberts seemed to have a great rapport with the players before games but we saw how that turned out for Jimmy Walker etc. The fact we have such attacking talents means it won't be long before the lack of chances we've created is righted and people stop scapegoating Woolfenden or departed players. |
"It's odd there's a thread where unanimously people are expecting 3 pts tonight".
No longer unanimous (if it ever was). I'm certainly not "expecting" that, albeit am hoping for it of course. |  |
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| Everything is awesome on 22:58 - Aug 17 with 587 views | Mullet |
| Everything is awesome on 13:37 - Aug 17 by Herbivore |
I think Phil has him on the payroll to help generate ten pagers. All about the advertising revenue. |
Only got to 6, even after tonight's game to right all my wrongs innit. A lot of very quiet people in the last couple of hours. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 22:59 - Aug 17 with 577 views | timothyeo |
| Everything is awesome on 22:58 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
Only got to 6, even after tonight's game to right all my wrongs innit. A lot of very quiet people in the last couple of hours. |
Yep, especially those who gave some abuse to people like me for showing a little concern. |  | | |
| Everything is awesome on 23:01 - Aug 17 with 567 views | Coastalblue |
| Everything is awesome on 22:58 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
Only got to 6, even after tonight's game to right all my wrongs innit. A lot of very quiet people in the last couple of hours. |
Might get a bit more license to voice the odd concern now. Is it just an ITFC thing to be so black and white about managers from day one or is every set of supporters like it?
Sure 100% support in the ground, I'm all for that, but half the fun goes if you can't debate the positives and negatives after. |  |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:03 - Aug 17 with 557 views | Mullet |
| Everything is awesome on 23:01 - Aug 17 by Coastalblue |
Might get a bit more license to voice the odd concern now. Is it just an ITFC thing to be so black and white about managers from day one or is every set of supporters like it?
Sure 100% support in the ground, I'm all for that, but half the fun goes if you can't debate the positives and negatives after. |
I think it's just a certain type thing rather than any particular club. Always the same chancers on here isn't it? | |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:05 - Aug 17 with 537 views | Ryorry |
| Everything is awesome on 15:51 - Aug 17 by Ryorry |
"It's odd there's a thread where unanimously people are expecting 3 pts tonight".
No longer unanimous (if it ever was). I'm certainly not "expecting" that, albeit am hoping for it of course. |
Downvoted for saying I certainly wasn't expecting a win tonight, albeit I was hoping for it.
Dear me. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:07 - Aug 17 with 523 views | Mullet |
| Everything is awesome on 23:05 - Aug 17 by Ryorry |
Downvoted for saying I certainly wasn't expecting a win tonight, albeit I was hoping for it.
Dear me. |
No. It was hinting I'm a liar and your usual nonsense. I can cancel it out if it matters that much to you. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:17 - Aug 17 with 479 views | Ryorry |
| Everything is awesome on 23:07 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
No. It was hinting I'm a liar and your usual nonsense. I can cancel it out if it matters that much to you. |
How on *earth* you could construe that as me "hinting (you) are a liar, god only knows, because I certainly don't,nor was it ever intended.
As for "my usual nonsense", please do provide a few links as evidence, cheers in advance.
No need to cancel the downvote, I just wanted to know why on earth anyone would give one for that post - I actually thought it might be a 'fatfingers'. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:19 - Aug 17 with 469 views | Mullet |
| Everything is awesome on 23:17 - Aug 17 by Ryorry |
How on *earth* you could construe that as me "hinting (you) are a liar, god only knows, because I certainly don't,nor was it ever intended.
As for "my usual nonsense", please do provide a few links as evidence, cheers in advance.
No need to cancel the downvote, I just wanted to know why on earth anyone would give one for that post - I actually thought it might be a 'fatfingers'. |
Probably the snarky (if it ever was) eh? Then moaning about V's a forum where you dish them out constantly as if they matter. | |
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| Everything is awesome on 23:23 - Aug 17 with 453 views | Ryorry |
| Everything is awesome on 23:19 - Aug 17 by Mullet |
Probably the snarky (if it ever was) eh? Then moaning about V's a forum where you dish them out constantly as if they matter. |
Eh? | |
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