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Andre Dozzell, and passing football 13:07 - Sep 8 with 2976 viewsitfcjoe

2 great examples of building from the back here, both leading to goals - one from the subsequent corner.

I was really impressed with when we chose to play on Saturday, doing it in the right areas at the right times - and for the deficiencies Dozzell does have - we need to hide them and show off his obvious strengths as a club




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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:12 - Sep 8 with 2631 viewsclive_baker

Yep, definitely some green shoots. I do think better opposition will make it much more difficult for us to play though.

We don't have anyone else in the squad that can do what AD can do with regards to vision and ability to execute it. Need to get him confident and pumped.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:14 - Sep 8 with 2616 viewsJ2BLUE

Hopefully he'll grab this season by the throat and nail down his place.

Truly impaired.
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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:15 - Sep 8 with 2612 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:12 - Sep 8 by clive_baker

Yep, definitely some green shoots. I do think better opposition will make it much more difficult for us to play though.

We don't have anyone else in the squad that can do what AD can do with regards to vision and ability to execute it. Need to get him confident and pumped.


And a run in the team in his favoured role - with those around him to hide his weaknesses

He needs to be shown off like a key asset should be

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:20 - Sep 8 with 2568 viewsHerbivore

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:15 - Sep 8 by itfcjoe

And a run in the team in his favoured role - with those around him to hide his weaknesses

He needs to be shown off like a key asset should be


I think trying to find a place for Dozzer needs to happen now. In a midfield trio we should be able to compensate for the fact that he's not the best defensively and hopefully playing regularly he will improve that side of his game naturally. If Downes stays then a midfield trio of Downes, Dozzell and Bishop looks potentially very enticing. Rotate in the senior boys as necessary.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:27 - Sep 8 with 2511 viewsMetal_Hacker

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:20 - Sep 8 by Herbivore

I think trying to find a place for Dozzer needs to happen now. In a midfield trio we should be able to compensate for the fact that he's not the best defensively and hopefully playing regularly he will improve that side of his game naturally. If Downes stays then a midfield trio of Downes, Dozzell and Bishop looks potentially very enticing. Rotate in the senior boys as necessary.


Those three you mention all day long when on form and fit (and not handing in transfer requests) over Huws, Judge and Nolan

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:29 - Sep 8 with 2502 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:20 - Sep 8 by Herbivore

I think trying to find a place for Dozzer needs to happen now. In a midfield trio we should be able to compensate for the fact that he's not the best defensively and hopefully playing regularly he will improve that side of his game naturally. If Downes stays then a midfield trio of Downes, Dozzell and Bishop looks potentially very enticing. Rotate in the senior boys as necessary.


This is the last year of his deal - if he leaves the club without a run in his favoured position then it is a massive failure in the running off the club

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:32 - Sep 8 with 2478 viewshomer_123

As I said below, yep, some nice football there but Rovers are not exactly pressing and harrying us.

We've never really had issues against teams that let us play - the acid test is when teams press us - then we'll see if we can still move the ball with pace and accuracy.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:35 - Sep 8 with 2451 viewsHerbivore

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:29 - Sep 8 by itfcjoe

This is the last year of his deal - if he leaves the club without a run in his favoured position then it is a massive failure in the running off the club


With hindsight I wonder if we should have given him a half season loan in 2018/19 or last season. We barely used him and when we did it was the odd start or odd cameo from the bench. Going somewhere to get some regular football would have benefited everyone.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:36 - Sep 8 with 2430 viewsMetal_Hacker

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:32 - Sep 8 by homer_123

As I said below, yep, some nice football there but Rovers are not exactly pressing and harrying us.

We've never really had issues against teams that let us play - the acid test is when teams press us - then we'll see if we can still move the ball with pace and accuracy.


I guess it's all about practicing the correct things , muscle memory but more importantly ....building confidence

Two prime examples for me from Saturday who have hopefully come back with greater confidence are both AD and Nsiala . Could be two big players for us this season..potentially

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:37 - Sep 8 with 2417 viewsReuser_is_God

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:35 - Sep 8 by Herbivore

With hindsight I wonder if we should have given him a half season loan in 2018/19 or last season. We barely used him and when we did it was the odd start or odd cameo from the bench. Going somewhere to get some regular football would have benefited everyone.


Hurst wanted to do that in fairness & he got pelters for it.

You're right though.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:38 - Sep 8 with 2411 viewsBent_double

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:29 - Sep 8 by itfcjoe

This is the last year of his deal - if he leaves the club without a run in his favoured position then it is a massive failure in the running off the club


What happened to not letting players' contracts run down, or has AD/his agent already come out and said he won't be signing a new one?

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:39 - Sep 8 with 2395 viewsHerbivore

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:37 - Sep 8 by Reuser_is_God

Hurst wanted to do that in fairness & he got pelters for it.

You're right though.


Yeah I remember now actually the talk of Hurst wanting to let him go out on loan. Might have been one of the few things he got right.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:40 - Sep 8 with 2384 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:37 - Sep 8 by Reuser_is_God

Hurst wanted to do that in fairness & he got pelters for it.

You're right though.


Because he signed average players in midfield to play instead mainly

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:41 - Sep 8 with 2379 viewshomer_123

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:36 - Sep 8 by Metal_Hacker

I guess it's all about practicing the correct things , muscle memory but more importantly ....building confidence

Two prime examples for me from Saturday who have hopefully come back with greater confidence are both AD and Nsiala . Could be two big players for us this season..potentially


Don't get me wrong, good to see and indeed practice makes perfect.

However, for years now we have struggled to play that way when teams really press us.

I still have reservations about Nsiala.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:42 - Sep 8 with 2377 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:38 - Sep 8 by Bent_double

What happened to not letting players' contracts run down, or has AD/his agent already come out and said he won't be signing a new one?


We have tried to get him to sign one, and have taken up option for this year but have run out of road really with him.

He won't sign one unless he plays, quite understandably, so we need to either make him a key part of the team and keep him or he'll just drift off for next to nothing

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:43 - Sep 8 with 2370 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:41 - Sep 8 by homer_123

Don't get me wrong, good to see and indeed practice makes perfect.

However, for years now we have struggled to play that way when teams really press us.

I still have reservations about Nsiala.


We haven't really tried to play that way to struggle doing so, we haven't looked to dominate ball in opponents half or break areas - when we have passed it has just been for passings sake

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:43 - Sep 8 with 2364 viewssuffolkpoker

a midfield off Dozza, Downes and Bish would blow most teams away in this division. then adding Skuse, Judge and Nolan to the mix is some midfield for this level.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:44 - Sep 8 with 2349 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:32 - Sep 8 by homer_123

As I said below, yep, some nice football there but Rovers are not exactly pressing and harrying us.

We've never really had issues against teams that let us play - the acid test is when teams press us - then we'll see if we can still move the ball with pace and accuracy.


To be fair they seemed to be trying, just that they are not great at it.

There will be plenty of that in L1.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:46 - Sep 8 with 2335 viewsDyland

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:43 - Sep 8 by suffolkpoker

a midfield off Dozza, Downes and Bish would blow most teams away in this division. then adding Skuse, Judge and Nolan to the mix is some midfield for this level.


I was drooling over that possibility a year ago but never thought I'd see it have a proper chance. And still don't!

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:51 - Sep 8 with 2301 viewsIPSWICHFANITFC

If you want to play passing football, then you need to get 3 in midfield who will a) show for the ball b) play in one or two touches with the ability to adapt to a different tempo and c) have a range of passing

Dozzell has all 3. Put him with Downes and Bishop and you have a very well balanced midfield trio all confident in each other and bring something different to the party.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:05 - Sep 8 with 2203 viewsHarry_Palmer

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:51 - Sep 8 by IPSWICHFANITFC

If you want to play passing football, then you need to get 3 in midfield who will a) show for the ball b) play in one or two touches with the ability to adapt to a different tempo and c) have a range of passing

Dozzell has all 3. Put him with Downes and Bishop and you have a very well balanced midfield trio all confident in each other and bring something different to the party.


Agree. The acid test for Lambert will be if he can bring himself to drop his beloved Judge to facilitate this. I'd like to think so but I have my doubts.
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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:16 - Sep 8 with 2140 viewsBlueBadger

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:05 - Sep 8 by Harry_Palmer

Agree. The acid test for Lambert will be if he can bring himself to drop his beloved Judge to facilitate this. I'd like to think so but I have my doubts.


Don't worry, he won't. We'll see Judge shoehorned in in all sorts of ways and formations.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:22 - Sep 8 with 2117 viewsitfcjoe

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:05 - Sep 8 by Harry_Palmer

Agree. The acid test for Lambert will be if he can bring himself to drop his beloved Judge to facilitate this. I'd like to think so but I have my doubts.


Judge played well in one of the forward positions on Satuday and gave us a nice balance with Freddie pushing on more

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:24 - Sep 8 with 2099 viewsclive_baker

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 13:15 - Sep 8 by itfcjoe

And a run in the team in his favoured role - with those around him to hide his weaknesses

He needs to be shown off like a key asset should be


That really is the salient point, about a run in the side. Impossible to find form when he's in 1 week and out for the next 2, that goes for any player. We absolutely need to settle on a favoured central 3, perhaps Dozzell - Downes - Bishop and run with it for 6 - 8 games and see how we click. We're fortunate to have Nolan and Huws waiting in the wings but we should only rotate if forced to. That central 3, with a 3 of Judge - Norwood - Sears ahead of them gives me a massive stiffy. Jackson will have something to say about that, but again we need a settled 'core' 8 or 9 throughout.

None of this rotating keepers bullsh1t.

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Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:32 - Sep 8 with 2068 viewsHerbivore

Andre Dozzell, and passing football on 14:24 - Sep 8 by clive_baker

That really is the salient point, about a run in the side. Impossible to find form when he's in 1 week and out for the next 2, that goes for any player. We absolutely need to settle on a favoured central 3, perhaps Dozzell - Downes - Bishop and run with it for 6 - 8 games and see how we click. We're fortunate to have Nolan and Huws waiting in the wings but we should only rotate if forced to. That central 3, with a 3 of Judge - Norwood - Sears ahead of them gives me a massive stiffy. Jackson will have something to say about that, but again we need a settled 'core' 8 or 9 throughout.

None of this rotating keepers bullsh1t.


A trio of Dozzell, Bishop and Downes isn't just for this league. If it clicks and they stay fit that looks a midfield well capable of holding its own in the Championship. There's some serious quality in that trio, just need Dozzell and Bishop to maintain fitness and form.

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