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Unpopular opinion of the day 09:45 - Oct 19 with 5654 viewsBigManBlue

Scrums just absolutely ruin rugby. Everyone I know who has played at any level loves them, but in terms of spectacle I find them to be incredibly tedious. What am I missing?

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:47 - Oct 19 with 3921 viewsfooters

If scrums are done properly then they're brilliant. But that's a big if. Far too many collapse or have to be reset which does ruin it a bit.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:49 - Oct 19 with 3910 viewsBigManBlue

Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:47 - Oct 19 by footers

If scrums are done properly then they're brilliant. But that's a big if. Far too many collapse or have to be reset which does ruin it a bit.


That one in the first half that took five minutes... You know it's bad if the commentators are making a disclaimer to new viewers.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:51 - Oct 19 with 3897 viewsmanchego

Yeah. If they were reduced to 5 a side they would work better / collapse less.
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Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:53 - Oct 19 with 3885 viewsfooters

Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:49 - Oct 19 by BigManBlue

That one in the first half that took five minutes... You know it's bad if the commentators are making a disclaimer to new viewers.


I'd still rather watch a scrum being reset than American football.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:57 - Oct 19 with 3865 viewsBigManBlue

Unpopular opinion of the day on 09:53 - Oct 19 by footers

I'd still rather watch a scrum being reset than American football.


Very true. I like the idea of American football but I've never managed to actually watch a whole game. The redzone is alright for a couple of hours if, like me, you have a poor attention span and basically just want to watch massive men being clean vaulted by slightly less massive men, and don't care about tactics/any teams/the results.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:00 - Oct 19 with 3854 viewsFootballpete

Rugby ruins rugby. Such a waste of a perfectly good football pitch.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:13 - Oct 19 with 3815 viewsDarth_Koont

Yes, not sure the ref got a handle on them and you can get them to settle down by giving a few warnings and penalties.

But today, the scrums particularly stood out because the rest of the game flowed so well.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:13 - Oct 19 with 3816 viewsJohnny_Boy

Unpopular opinion of the Day:
Rugby is for w4nkers.

Discuss.
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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:17 - Oct 19 with 3791 viewsDarth_Koont

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:13 - Oct 19 by Johnny_Boy

Unpopular opinion of the Day:
Rugby is for w4nkers.

Discuss.


Harsh. I wouldn’t even say that about cricket.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:20 - Oct 19 with 3763 viewsCaptMickMills

Absolutely key part of the game.
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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:22 - Oct 19 with 3751 viewsDarth_Koont

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:20 - Oct 19 by CaptMickMills

Absolutely key part of the game.


Sure. But I think it’s a valid point that today the scrums weren’t good. As scrums and for the game.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:23 - Oct 19 with 3741 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:13 - Oct 19 by Johnny_Boy

Unpopular opinion of the Day:
Rugby is for w4nkers.

Discuss.


Doubly so when they are on a bus?

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:27 - Oct 19 with 3711 viewsFootballpete

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:13 - Oct 19 by Johnny_Boy

Unpopular opinion of the Day:
Rugby is for w4nkers.

Discuss.


What is there to discuss?

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:34 - Oct 19 with 3681 viewsWeWereZombies

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:17 - Oct 19 by Darth_Koont

Harsh. I wouldn’t even say that about cricket.


Although probably true about w@anking...

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:51 - Oct 19 with 3638 viewsBrianTablet

And why don't they have a 30-second kicking clock

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:52 - Oct 19 with 3634 viewsfactual_blue

balls (funny shaped ones)

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:55 - Oct 19 with 3627 viewsWeWereZombies

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:51 - Oct 19 by BrianTablet

And why don't they have a 30-second kicking clock


Would that clock be ticking until the kicking and when it stopped if there had been no kicking then the ref would start ticking off the player who wasn't kicking? Because I can see other players who had been listening to the ticking getting wound up and kicking off about the pressure of the ticking...leading down to the kicking...

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 11:11 - Oct 19 with 3605 viewsBigManBlue

Unpopular opinion of the day on 10:51 - Oct 19 by BrianTablet

And why don't they have a 30-second kicking clock


Super League brought in a 60 second shot clock this year and it really sped the game up. Would definitely be worth a try.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 11:11 - Oct 19 with 3606 viewsFtnfwest

Don’t worry, as usual once England become the best at a certain aspect of the game the governing body will change the rules to stop them.
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Unpopular opinion of the day on 11:27 - Oct 19 with 3578 viewscaught-in-limbo

The viewer would have a completely different opinion of scrums with "scrumcam".

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:22 - Oct 19 with 3512 viewsDarth_Koont

NZ vs IRE is showing how scrums should go. No twisting, turning or collapsing just an honest contest and Owens didn’t have a decision to make until right at the end of the half. The scrums have added to an excellent half of rugby.

Think Owens wouldn’t have had as much patience as Garces with the poor scrums in the Eng vs Aus game.

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:23 - Oct 19 with 3509 viewsBlueForYou

Scrums are a contest for the ball but what is ridiculous is that the scrum halves are allowed to feed the ball straight to the No8 rather than a straight putt in & a fair contest!
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Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:37 - Oct 19 with 3483 viewsBigManBlue

Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:23 - Oct 19 by BlueForYou

Scrums are a contest for the ball but what is ridiculous is that the scrum halves are allowed to feed the ball straight to the No8 rather than a straight putt in & a fair contest!


I noticed that - is this a relatively new thing?

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:45 - Oct 19 with 3469 viewsRyorry

Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:23 - Oct 19 by BlueForYou

Scrums are a contest for the ball but what is ridiculous is that the scrum halves are allowed to feed the ball straight to the No8 rather than a straight putt in & a fair contest!


The rules are what ruin rugby. Nobody understands or even knows all of them anyway except players/past players!

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Unpopular opinion of the day on 13:23 - Oct 19 with 3414 viewsDarth_Koont

Unpopular opinion of the day on 12:45 - Oct 19 by Ryorry

The rules are what ruin rugby. Nobody understands or even knows all of them anyway except players/past players!


They're not easy for the casual observer but the rules make the game.

If it was a free-for-all at the breakdowns you'd soon see why the rules are there as the defenders would kill the ball all the time. Most of these less obvious rules have been brought in to make the game safer for the players and better for the spectator.

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