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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:45 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
"Is China in the lead?"
Well regarding The Moon i'd say so, didn't NASA Astronaut Don Pettit say that they don't have the technology anymore?
They clearly aren't in the lead, the US and Russia are quite some way ahead, the rocket the Chinese use is a modified Soviet design after all. The Chinese are certainly making very good progress but the hyperbole and anti-Western articles are quite annoying. It's excellent the Chinese are serious about space exploration though.
That's either a hugely misleading post or you don't understand what you've posted. That video is talking about landing people on the moon not a rover/lander. The US could land a rover on the moon anytime they liked, they managed to land one on Mars last month which is a far, far, far harder task. It's possible that a private US company will beat both the US and China to putting a person on the moon.
Only a few days ago the US managed a successful flyby of an object in the Kuiper belt, nobody else is anywhere near doing anything remotely like that.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:54 - Jan 3 with 4282 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:45 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
"Is China in the lead?"
Well regarding The Moon i'd say so, didn't NASA Astronaut Don Pettit say that they don't have the technology anymore?
I think they are talking about the fact that by now all the manned landers are gone, the factories making the sort of stuff needed for manned missions. You can rebuild it but that'll take time. I'm sure if you asked a car company to build cars they were building back in the 1960s they might struggle.
Although on a related note you can go have a look at the code used to go to the Moon (although I get the feeling you don't think it happened).
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:54 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
I think they are talking about the fact that by now all the manned landers are gone, the factories making the sort of stuff needed for manned missions. You can rebuild it but that'll take time. I'm sure if you asked a car company to build cars they were building back in the 1960s they might struggle.
Although on a related note you can go have a look at the code used to go to the Moon (although I get the feeling you don't think it happened).
It's a pity the World didn't concentrate on feeding the starving and homeless instead of spending millions of pounds, dollars, yen or whatever on sending pieces of expensive junk into orbit and then enthusing about a lake found on some distant planet . Leaders of all Countries need to reel in their glutinous greed (that includes you,Mr. Blair) and concentrate on the real needs of "Real" people, presumably if your one of those plastic people there's a 5p charge on you.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:08 - Jan 3 with 4247 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:01 - Jan 3 by Whymarkmariner
It's a pity the World didn't concentrate on feeding the starving and homeless instead of spending millions of pounds, dollars, yen or whatever on sending pieces of expensive junk into orbit and then enthusing about a lake found on some distant planet . Leaders of all Countries need to reel in their glutinous greed (that includes you,Mr. Blair) and concentrate on the real needs of "Real" people, presumably if your one of those plastic people there's a 5p charge on you.
That's not how science works. Without doing things like this we wouldn't have things like GPS or satellites that help predict natural disasters before they happen. It's not an either / or situation.
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:52 - Jan 3 by StokieBlue
They clearly aren't in the lead, the US and Russia are quite some way ahead, the rocket the Chinese use is a modified Soviet design after all. The Chinese are certainly making very good progress but the hyperbole and anti-Western articles are quite annoying. It's excellent the Chinese are serious about space exploration though.
That's either a hugely misleading post or you don't understand what you've posted. That video is talking about landing people on the moon not a rover/lander. The US could land a rover on the moon anytime they liked, they managed to land one on Mars last month which is a far, far, far harder task. It's possible that a private US company will beat both the US and China to putting a person on the moon.
Only a few days ago the US managed a successful flyby of an object in the Kuiper belt, nobody else is anywhere near doing anything remotely like that.
SB
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Fair dinkum, im no expert, im just going on what NASA astronaut and chemical engineer Don Pettit has said.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:20 - Jan 3 with 4225 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 14:54 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
I think they are talking about the fact that by now all the manned landers are gone, the factories making the sort of stuff needed for manned missions. You can rebuild it but that'll take time. I'm sure if you asked a car company to build cars they were building back in the 1960s they might struggle.
Although on a related note you can go have a look at the code used to go to the Moon (although I get the feeling you don't think it happened).
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:20 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
"Although on a related note you can go have a look at the code used to go to the Moon (although I get the feeling you don't think it happened)."
I'm a little unsure, lol...
Well I watched a few minutes of that. Now I could be wrong, but if the microphone is in his suit and he's holding the hammer when striking something, the sounds waves could travel through the suit and into the mic.
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:31 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
Well I watched a few minutes of that. Now I could be wrong, but if the microphone is in his suit and he's holding the hammer when striking something, the sounds waves could travel through the suit and into the mic.
Please watch the whole clip, it's covered.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:40 - Jan 3 with 4188 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:08 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
That's not how science works. Without doing things like this we wouldn't have things like GPS or satellites that help predict natural disasters before they happen. It's not an either / or situation.
It's o.k. predicting natural disasters but getting the people out of these areas where they happen doesn't happen quickly enough and usually relies on mobilising troops and rescue workers from other Country and if GPS is so great why does it keep sending lorries to a low bridge near me. Also the Chinese are more interested in dominating the World and pinching other Countries technologies than looking after their own people. Many of whom, like other nations poor will have died long before any probes information is used for new technology.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:46 - Jan 3 with 4175 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:40 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
Stokie? How about just discussing what's covered in the clip?
At least Dan came with a possible explanation, which i might add is covered later in the clip.
OK watched a bit more now and they've claimed the ISS (which you can literally see) is a hoax.
Also a reason you could potentially hear the hammer blows vs. the power tool is because hammering something is difficult, especially on the Moon. So if they exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow.
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:46 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
OK watched a bit more now and they've claimed the ISS (which you can literally see) is a hoax.
Also a reason you could potentially hear the hammer blows vs. the power tool is because hammering something is difficult, especially on the Moon. So if they exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow.
I'm out though, this is some buckwild stuff.
"Also a reason you could potentially hear the hammer blows vs. the power tool is because hammering something is difficult, especially on the Moon. So if they exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow."
Of course your now out, i think anyone would be after posting that!
"...exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow."
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 16:06 - Jan 3 with 4136 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 15:55 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
"Also a reason you could potentially hear the hammer blows vs. the power tool is because hammering something is difficult, especially on the Moon. So if they exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow."
Of course your now out, i think anyone would be after posting that!
"...exhale loudly enough the microphone enables and captures the hammer blow."
You ever spoken to someone in a call centre where when they are talking you can hear all the background noise but when they are silent you hear nothing? The ambient noise isn't enough to trigger the threshold on the mic but their voice is and the background noise is then picked up.
So yes, if they were doing something already difficult where you are exherting yourself like hammering something on the Moon, they could easily make enough noise whilst doing so to trigger the microphone and then you'd get the sound.
You're right though, that's much more out there than an elaborate scheme involving potentially thousands of people to fake a moon landing. Crazy!
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 16:06 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
You ever spoken to someone in a call centre where when they are talking you can hear all the background noise but when they are silent you hear nothing? The ambient noise isn't enough to trigger the threshold on the mic but their voice is and the background noise is then picked up.
So yes, if they were doing something already difficult where you are exherting yourself like hammering something on the Moon, they could easily make enough noise whilst doing so to trigger the microphone and then you'd get the sound.
You're right though, that's much more out there than an elaborate scheme involving potentially thousands of people to fake a moon landing. Crazy!
Don't forget the Russians, the arch-enemy.
They would have needed to be in on it as well.
SB
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 16:15 - Jan 3 with 4124 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 16:06 - Jan 3 by DanTheMan
You ever spoken to someone in a call centre where when they are talking you can hear all the background noise but when they are silent you hear nothing? The ambient noise isn't enough to trigger the threshold on the mic but their voice is and the background noise is then picked up.
So yes, if they were doing something already difficult where you are exherting yourself like hammering something on the Moon, they could easily make enough noise whilst doing so to trigger the microphone and then you'd get the sound.
You're right though, that's much more out there than an elaborate scheme involving potentially thousands of people to fake a moon landing. Crazy!
"and then you'd get the sound."
But that's just it DanTheMan, there is no sound on the surface of the moon or in space.
Go to 5 minutes and 53 seconds in that clip and read.
In fact, watch the whole clip again.
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So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 17:55 - Jan 3 with 4077 views
So it seems the Chinese has landed a rocket on 16:15 - Jan 3 by Bluesquid
"and then you'd get the sound."
But that's just it DanTheMan, there is no sound on the surface of the moon or in space.
Go to 5 minutes and 53 seconds in that clip and read.
In fact, watch the whole clip again.
No, the sound cannot travel through the atmosphere as there is no matter for the waves to transfer through. There is sound through matter though like a hammer connected to a glove.
And I've watched it again and they still don't explain why it's not possible. They just said it isn't possible and use an interview to try and prove that it isn't. It's interesting they leave off the next line in the conversation:
[Bean - "I don't remember. I was so concentrated...The problem with hammering is that...Well, I'm a good carpenter, but you can't come straight down (with your arm in the suit). That's why they made the hammer bigger and everybody used the side. You can't do a nice smooth swing. You get it going (straight down) and then the cable cuts in and moves it over. So you try to adjust your swing and then you miss. Lot of missing."]
It is also possible that just because his human ears could not pick it up, does not mean that the mic could not. That's fairly common.
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