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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! 16:37 - Apr 26 with 1225 viewsRyorry

https://www.change.org/p/help-save-britain-s-hedgehogs-with-hedgehog-highways/u/

""I was very surprised to discover how differently the robotic lawn mowers performed in our tests," Sophie said. "It was devastating to witness how some models badly mutilated the dead hedgehogs. But at the same time, other models did quite well, and did not seem to harm the hedgehogs...

It is not just hedgehogs, of course, that are at risk. Toads and slow worms out at night would be vulnerable, as would baby birds during the day."
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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 17:51 - Apr 26 with 1137 viewsNthQldITFC

Massive upvote for this. Also if you have to use gravel boards please leave a space for hedgehogs, frogs etc to get through. The anal trend for buttoned up garden borders really pisses me off.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 19:33 - Apr 26 with 1087 viewscleaner

Cleaner does not understand why people want to use robots to do the housework. Clipping the little blades of grass gives cleaner no end of joy when Cleaner gets going.
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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 21:27 - Apr 26 with 1016 viewsRyorry

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 19:33 - Apr 26 by cleaner

Cleaner does not understand why people want to use robots to do the housework. Clipping the little blades of grass gives cleaner no end of joy when Cleaner gets going.


Just curious - why are you referring to yourself in the 3rd person? 🤔

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 08:41 - Apr 27 with 915 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 17:51 - Apr 26 by NthQldITFC

Massive upvote for this. Also if you have to use gravel boards please leave a space for hedgehogs, frogs etc to get through. The anal trend for buttoned up garden borders really pisses me off.


We’ve recently taken all of our fences out after planting hedges instead.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 10:01 - Apr 27 with 877 viewsWeWereZombies

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 08:41 - Apr 27 by Cheltenham_Blue

We’ve recently taken all of our fences out after planting hedges instead.


Excellent move, I started surrounding my property with brash hedges after a few cattle invasions and was delighted to hear that this is something that the John Muir Trust are trying out as protection against invasive deer (who can destroy saplings before they have any chance to grow and are a real threat to reforestation.)

As well as looking much better than fences, and allowing easy through routes for small mammals and insects, hedges also often provide good habitats for birds. Of course there was a time thousands of years ago when there were no hedges and it is only human land use and propriety that has brought them into being. So they are an imposition upon the landscape that changes the balance of nature in allowing some species to prosper and other species to have more limited prospects but, given the barriers that fences and roads impose upon our native wildlife, I think that their benefits outweigh the demerits substantially.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 10:07 - Apr 27 with 871 viewshype313

Don't get them full stop, one of life's simple pleasures is mowing the lawn, well, it is for me as it gives me a 20 minute break from the kids.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 12:25 - Apr 28 with 781 viewsRyorry

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 10:01 - Apr 27 by WeWereZombies

Excellent move, I started surrounding my property with brash hedges after a few cattle invasions and was delighted to hear that this is something that the John Muir Trust are trying out as protection against invasive deer (who can destroy saplings before they have any chance to grow and are a real threat to reforestation.)

As well as looking much better than fences, and allowing easy through routes for small mammals and insects, hedges also often provide good habitats for birds. Of course there was a time thousands of years ago when there were no hedges and it is only human land use and propriety that has brought them into being. So they are an imposition upon the landscape that changes the balance of nature in allowing some species to prosper and other species to have more limited prospects but, given the barriers that fences and roads impose upon our native wildlife, I think that their benefits outweigh the demerits substantially.


Interesting, not heard of brash hedges before now - do you mean hedges consisting of prunings from trees when clearing woodland, which if you stick a few into the ground, take root & sprout into life? And you then weave some of the remaining brash through them to form a hedge?

I had thought previously that 'brash' was a word used only in Yorkshire to describe the small twiggy waste from tree-felling (or pruning) - it's certainly not in the main online dictionaries.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 14:53 - Apr 28 with 748 viewsWeWereZombies

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 12:25 - Apr 28 by Ryorry

Interesting, not heard of brash hedges before now - do you mean hedges consisting of prunings from trees when clearing woodland, which if you stick a few into the ground, take root & sprout into life? And you then weave some of the remaining brash through them to form a hedge?

I had thought previously that 'brash' was a word used only in Yorkshire to describe the small twiggy waste from tree-felling (or pruning) - it's certainly not in the main online dictionaries.


More or less, Ryorry, and I am probably not using the term strictly. I have plenty of branches and other loppings from my trees that fill in between the trees on the boundary as something for brambles to weave in amongst. This is enough to discourage cattle from trying to make an entry. In Southern Africa thorn trees are used to repel more lethal mammals by putting the deadwood in a line around property. I should go on a hedge laying course and perfect the method but as the hedges are doing a job and I have other imperatives I have to give that a miss for the moment.

My hope is that even if all the dead branches and twigs rot down they will have provided compost for living hedgerow plants. In the meantime I have a surfeit of raspberry canes and I am taking them out of the flowerbeds they have invaded and am planting them in front of the brash hedging to form a more distinct edge to the lawns and vegetable growing areas.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 15:01 - Apr 28 with 741 viewsSwansea_Blue

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 17:51 - Apr 26 by NthQldITFC

Massive upvote for this. Also if you have to use gravel boards please leave a space for hedgehogs, frogs etc to get through. The anal trend for buttoned up garden borders really pisses me off.


And if you build a new pond, make sure to hedgehog proof it at the start as the poor little beggars have a habit of falling into them and not being able to climb out again.

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Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 17:06 - Apr 29 with 674 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Hog horror - robotic mower buyers, please read! on 10:01 - Apr 27 by WeWereZombies

Excellent move, I started surrounding my property with brash hedges after a few cattle invasions and was delighted to hear that this is something that the John Muir Trust are trying out as protection against invasive deer (who can destroy saplings before they have any chance to grow and are a real threat to reforestation.)

As well as looking much better than fences, and allowing easy through routes for small mammals and insects, hedges also often provide good habitats for birds. Of course there was a time thousands of years ago when there were no hedges and it is only human land use and propriety that has brought them into being. So they are an imposition upon the landscape that changes the balance of nature in allowing some species to prosper and other species to have more limited prospects but, given the barriers that fences and roads impose upon our native wildlife, I think that their benefits outweigh the demerits substantially.


We went for Hornbeam hedges around mine. Deciduous, but hold on to the brown leaves in winter.
Were in about 5 years before they were dense enough to remove the fences. But now have blackbirds nesting in them.

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