| No subject 22:25 - Aug 7 with 8959 views | textbackup |
18 months away from ‘home’
And 80% of the heroic north stand stood in silence
It’s honestly fcking painful
If you sit there, and don’t bother singing, why are you there? |  |
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| No subject on 13:26 - Aug 9 with 522 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| No subject on 13:16 - Aug 9 by Slambo |
We take very special care to not come across as entitled. If you see any sense of entitlement in anything we say, it's because you want to see it. To make it clear: the travails of Blue Action are inconsequential as long as the team on the pitch is doing well. We're excited as everyone about where this club is going, and if we peter out into nothing while the club goes from success to success, there'd be no complaints from us...
We'd LIKE the club to consider properly addressing the variable atmosphere at PR as we - and the majority of fans - feel its good for the team on the pitch, the wider support base and the general self-esteem of the club. We've tried doing it on our own for 3 years but events at Morecambe make us worried we're not getting anywhere. If fans don't want to accommodate us - or any other 'singing' group - not a lot can be done and we'll just do the best we can with what we have .. |
Im against Safe standing areas for a few reasons. But if we do go ahead with ours, I really hope that that area is full of people who want to make noise. Some bizarre comments on this thread regarding entitlement or what not.
Making lots of noise, helps Ipswich Town football club. Everyone should want to make noise, its that simple.
If you do get an audience with Mark Ashton, moving the away fans has to come up in discussion. Leeds Home a few season back was class because of it. |  |
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| No subject on 13:35 - Aug 9 with 519 views | Slambo |
| No subject on 09:30 - Aug 9 by witchdoctor |
plenty of room in the Churchmans upper..right next to the away fans..there’s a few there that try and get the atmosphere going and I’m sure they’d welcome you lot to join their merry band… |
Yeah, we strongly considered completely relocating to another part of the ground and, to be honest, seems the only real alternative. But that brings with it a whole set of new problems: would people have come with? Scooting over a few rows or to another block is one thing, but a whole new stand..? A potential cost increase of ST would affect that as well. Maybe the club would give us a discount, but then we'd get called entitled. Would existing ST holders be happy to have us there..? We'd be standing, jumping about, waving flags and making as much racket as possible. We get enough kick back in the Bobby Lower, where that sort of thing is expected - what about in areas where fans sit precisely for some peace and quiet..?
If you want to make an omelette, you have to crack some eggs. At some point, if the club is serious about addressing the atmosphere at PR (and it's going to need to come from on high), it's going to require some engineering and moving people about - unless of course a proper standing area is introduced. Maybe Mark Ashton has something in the works. I guess we'll see... |  |
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| No subject on 13:39 - Aug 9 with 509 views | Slambo |
| No subject on 11:47 - Aug 9 by portmanking |
For me, I think the root cause is simpler than any of the above. It's merely that we've been starved of success for so long. The majority of fans are LONGING to believe in our team and will back them to the hilt vocally, but how many false dawns have we had in the last 10 years? We are so scarred as a fanbase, it's hardly surprising that the atmosphere quite literally popped like a balloon when Morecambe scored.
You've also got a squad of complete new faces/personalities/characters to throw into the equation. Fans are going to take time to find things to relate to in the new era, that's just natural, surely? |
Yeah, I think that's a really good point, and I guess it's about us managing our own expectations as well. As you say, once Town start fizzing (and i'm confident they will), fans will hopefully develop a bit more 'resilience', I guess you can call it, if they concede... | |
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| No subject on 13:47 - Aug 9 with 480 views | portmanking |
| No subject on 13:39 - Aug 9 by Slambo |
Yeah, I think that's a really good point, and I guess it's about us managing our own expectations as well. As you say, once Town start fizzing (and i'm confident they will), fans will hopefully develop a bit more 'resilience', I guess you can call it, if they concede... |
Absolutely. Don't for one minute think that people in the SBRL are happy standing there chatting with their mates about work. They'd much rather be chanting/cheering and watching their team flying forward and making Portman Road a fortress. Finally, it appears we're building a squad that will be able to get people off their seats in a way we've not seen for a generation. [Post edited 9 Aug 2021 13:48]
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| No subject on 14:12 - Aug 9 with 442 views | Pinewoodblue |
| No subject on 13:16 - Aug 9 by Slambo |
We take very special care to not come across as entitled. If you see any sense of entitlement in anything we say, it's because you want to see it. To make it clear: the travails of Blue Action are inconsequential as long as the team on the pitch is doing well. We're excited as everyone about where this club is going, and if we peter out into nothing while the club goes from success to success, there'd be no complaints from us...
We'd LIKE the club to consider properly addressing the variable atmosphere at PR as we - and the majority of fans - feel its good for the team on the pitch, the wider support base and the general self-esteem of the club. We've tried doing it on our own for 3 years but events at Morecambe make us worried we're not getting anywhere. If fans don't want to accommodate us - or any other 'singing' group - not a lot can be done and we'll just do the best we can with what we have .. |
I’ve donated to Blue Action and more than once and believe you will, in the long run, get what you want a successful football team to support.
Full credit for all your efforts, apart from the silly protest at Plsyford Road, however it does seem your efforts are not getting the support from fellow fans that you crave. The idea of creating a singing section only really works if you have a new stadium, or just a new stand, as expecting others to move to accommodate you is unreasonable.
You say you don’t feel you are seeking entitlement yet in response to another poster you suggest that you would expect to be allowed to stand in SARU and get a discounted season ticket. |  |
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| No subject on 14:46 - Aug 9 with 421 views | Slambo |
| No subject on 14:12 - Aug 9 by Pinewoodblue |
I’ve donated to Blue Action and more than once and believe you will, in the long run, get what you want a successful football team to support.
Full credit for all your efforts, apart from the silly protest at Plsyford Road, however it does seem your efforts are not getting the support from fellow fans that you crave. The idea of creating a singing section only really works if you have a new stadium, or just a new stand, as expecting others to move to accommodate you is unreasonable.
You say you don’t feel you are seeking entitlement yet in response to another poster you suggest that you would expect to be allowed to stand in SARU and get a discounted season ticket. |
No no, that's precisely what we WEREN'T expecting, hence why we didn't move..!
Anyway, you say you've donated to us in the past, which is really kind of you. We may not turn PR into the cauldron of noise we wanted, but we'll still do our bit, particularly when it comes to displays... | |
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| No subject on 15:08 - Aug 9 with 405 views | jayessess |
| No subject on 14:12 - Aug 9 by Pinewoodblue |
I’ve donated to Blue Action and more than once and believe you will, in the long run, get what you want a successful football team to support.
Full credit for all your efforts, apart from the silly protest at Plsyford Road, however it does seem your efforts are not getting the support from fellow fans that you crave. The idea of creating a singing section only really works if you have a new stadium, or just a new stand, as expecting others to move to accommodate you is unreasonable.
You say you don’t feel you are seeking entitlement yet in response to another poster you suggest that you would expect to be allowed to stand in SARU and get a discounted season ticket. |
Is it that "unreasonable" to ask people to move seats for the good of the club we all support? I'm not in Blue Action, but I'd absolutely move seats if I thought it'd do some good! Seems like quite a small sacrifice to make for the football club you love.
We all want players who'll run through walls for us but for lifelong fans "shifting a few seats over" is too much to ask? |  |
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| No subject on 15:13 - Aug 9 with 393 views | sotd78 |
| No subject on 08:45 - Aug 9 by Slambo |
Must say, we were left extremely deflated after Saturday. The Brewer's Arms was absolutely electric, we all marched down to the ground, the concourse was ear-splittingly loud, then into the stands and - silence...
We've worked hard these last few years to try and 'unite' the atmosphere generators and change the culture and it feels like we're back to square 1. We moved down to the front of the big part of 6 to get more central and visible ad we advertised this weeks ago; and yet there were STILL dozens of folk in that little mini section standing there with their arms crossed, staring glumly at the pitch. Men and women, young and old, replica shirt over hoodie, dripping in the latest terrace gear. Folk have read this thread, coughed nervously and stared at their feet; others have got very defensive; others don't care either way. But if we agree that a loud, positive atmosphere in a football ground is a good thing - both for the spectator and the player - then there's no reason why we couldn't have a 200 seat block somewhere for that express purpose. The other 29,800 supporters could go on supporting the team as they want. But we all have to self-reflect and take personal responsibility...
The only way forward as we see it now is the club taking the reins with this. I'm not sure if a feel optimistic or pessimistic about that: they did the absolute bare minimum when we wanted to move this season (hence why so many singers are still stranded up in the corner) and didn't listen to our suggestions at all, but we're willing to put it down to them just having bigger fish to fry, what with all the upheaval and having to build a competitive team from scratch. Hopefully we can get an audience with Mark Ashton and discuss some things. As someone rightly said, this regime is different, and there has definitely been a paradigm shift in terms of a 'can do' attitude. Standing areas would also massively help, but rail seats are not the panacea everyone thinks. The model I mostly see bandied about is still a 'one ticket, one standing spot' design, which does nothing to solve the problem of singers/non-singers being able to move about and congregate as they see fit...
Just a quick response to the songs: we ourselves have got at least 4 new songs that out there that have varying degrees of success. Solid, catchy songs that we repeat over and over so people can get the hang of. None of them involve slagging off Delia Smith and Norwich. But if the people in the row behind us won't even join in, how can we expect the whole stand to..? |
The only way you will get this to work is unreserved seating/standing. You need to take your "singers" to an area of the ground currently unoccupied - I suggest Cobbold A.
Then you can add to your core. You'll alsoproject down to the NSL and ironically to the West Stand that actually has a lot of ex-Churchmans and North Stand boys who are now grand-dads.
Then you'll get atmosphere! |  |
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| No subject on 15:32 - Aug 9 with 364 views | Parsley |
| No subject on 14:46 - Aug 9 by Slambo |
No no, that's precisely what we WEREN'T expecting, hence why we didn't move..!
Anyway, you say you've donated to us in the past, which is really kind of you. We may not turn PR into the cauldron of noise we wanted, but we'll still do our bit, particularly when it comes to displays... |
Hope you're not too disheartened, first game back for a long time for most people and I think with a run of good results/performances and supporters getting back into the swing of things and hopefully some of your new songs catching on things could really take off! Fingers crossed anyway |  | | |
| No subject on 15:34 - Aug 9 with 356 views | Bergholtblue |
The singing will come when the results come.
Let's face it, after past season's we have been through and then going down 1-2 to Morecambe, who really felt like singing? |  |
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| No subject on 15:35 - Aug 9 with 351 views | jayessess |
| No subject on 15:34 - Aug 9 by Bergholtblue |
The singing will come when the results come.
Let's face it, after past season's we have been through and then going down 1-2 to Morecambe, who really felt like singing? |
"We only sing when we're winning" is supposed to be an insult, isn't it? | |
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