| The World Cup 2022 missing list 13:36 - Nov 30 with 2924 views | TalkingBlues |
Italy - still unfathomable to me that they are not at the World Cup and the competition is all the poorer for it IMO. They've won the bloody thing 4 times and recently won Euro 2020!! Crazy.
A long list of missing African nations we've been used to seeing in the past also, containing a whole heap of the best performing players in the world, surely something needs to be changed to provide for more nations in the competition at future events? |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:40 - Nov 30 with 2167 views | brazil1982 |
Africa gain another 3 teams for 2026 when the WC is expanded to 48(!) teams in groups of 3. |  | | |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:44 - Nov 30 with 2157 views | Asa |
What could be fairer than the qualification system?
It's bad enough that they are moving to 48 teams, proposed 3 team groups and the potential for farcical final fixtures where both teams could progress with little desire for either of them to go for it.
If Italy didn't qualify then it's down to not being good enough over 8 or 10 matches, a substantial amount, and it is all very Champions League to start allowing teams to qualify based on past achievements, therefore denying someone else who has actually earned a place.
32 teams seems about right to me. 24 was too few because of the fact that some teams could qualify by drawing a single match. 48 is just far too many, but at least groups of 4 could allow a knockout stage where all the teams had largely earned qualification to that point.
It is strange not seeing Nigeria, Egypt, Sweden, Colombia, plus Italy, but you have to earn the right not just be gifted it. Bulgaria were one of the stories of USA 94' but they only qualified because they scored at the death to knock big ol' France out of making that tournament, one we also didn't deserve to qualify for - even if it came down to being robbed by Koeman. [Post edited 30 Nov 2022 13:48]
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:48 - Nov 30 with 2125 views | J2BLUE |
I would like to see more teams at the world cup but without diluting it down. So by all means add another 8 teams but have an extra group game and still only the top 2 go through. |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:57 - Nov 30 with 2078 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:48 - Nov 30 by J2BLUE |
I would like to see more teams at the world cup but without diluting it down. So by all means add another 8 teams but have an extra group game and still only the top 2 go through. |
That's a similar view to my own currently, though I haven't given much thought to the practical side of things.
Just put some more teams in and give them a chance on the big stage. The football world always says how different tournament football is, if that's the case, then maybe FIFA should make it more inclusive to begin with, after all, not only do we, the fans, miss out on seeing a lot of household names, but also any hidden gems cropping up and announcing themselves. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:01 - Nov 30 with 2052 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 13:44 - Nov 30 by Asa |
What could be fairer than the qualification system?
It's bad enough that they are moving to 48 teams, proposed 3 team groups and the potential for farcical final fixtures where both teams could progress with little desire for either of them to go for it.
If Italy didn't qualify then it's down to not being good enough over 8 or 10 matches, a substantial amount, and it is all very Champions League to start allowing teams to qualify based on past achievements, therefore denying someone else who has actually earned a place.
32 teams seems about right to me. 24 was too few because of the fact that some teams could qualify by drawing a single match. 48 is just far too many, but at least groups of 4 could allow a knockout stage where all the teams had largely earned qualification to that point.
It is strange not seeing Nigeria, Egypt, Sweden, Colombia, plus Italy, but you have to earn the right not just be gifted it. Bulgaria were one of the stories of USA 94' but they only qualified because they scored at the death to knock big ol' France out of making that tournament, one we also didn't deserve to qualify for - even if it came down to being robbed by Koeman. [Post edited 30 Nov 2022 13:48]
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Why not just make all that qualification part of the event? Given the "Group" set-up at WC's, it seems to me that it could be expanded easily by "X" number of groups, without placing any great further burden on Countries (from a "games to be played" perspective) so why not just do it and scrap the previous 8-10 game qualifying? | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:08 - Nov 30 with 2014 views | clive_baker |
Especially when you consider the team they had at Euro 2020 (summer 2021). The spine of that team especially, the core 7 or 8 was a joke. Donnaruma, Chielini, Bonucci, Verratti, Jorginho, Immobile, Chiesa, Insigne had been banging them in for Napoli.
Coasted through the group, then beat Belgium, Spain and England to win the thing. How did they go from that to not qualifying for the world cup? |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:18 - Nov 30 with 1994 views | SE1blue |
Probably an unpopular opinion but personally, I'm not missing Italy at all.
I usually find their style of football incredibly dull and negative. Is it effective? yes, Is it entertaining? No. |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:35 - Nov 30 with 1939 views | HighgateBlue |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:01 - Nov 30 by TalkingBlues |
Why not just make all that qualification part of the event? Given the "Group" set-up at WC's, it seems to me that it could be expanded easily by "X" number of groups, without placing any great further burden on Countries (from a "games to be played" perspective) so why not just do it and scrap the previous 8-10 game qualifying? |
Are you saying you'd add 8 to 10 games onto each team's itinerary? How would that not add a great further burden from a "games to be played" perspective?
Just how long do you want this World Cup to be, two months?! |  | | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:44 - Nov 30 with 1917 views | Ftnfwest |
Colombia are the next highest missing - 17th in the FIFA rankings |  | | |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:51 - Nov 30 with 1903 views | Bluefields |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:18 - Nov 30 by SE1blue |
Probably an unpopular opinion but personally, I'm not missing Italy at all.
I usually find their style of football incredibly dull and negative. Is it effective? yes, Is it entertaining? No. |
Love watching Italy, tactically superb,and often masters at tournament football (when they actually qualify) | | | |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:56 - Nov 30 with 1885 views | ronnyd |
They were saying on commentary of one of the games that CONCACAF teams rarely get to play European sides due to the new tournaments that UEFA keep coming up with. International friendlies are now rarer. | | | |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:03 - Nov 30 with 1864 views | SE1blue |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:51 - Nov 30 by Bluefields |
Love watching Italy, tactically superb,and often masters at tournament football (when they actually qualify) |
Think Portugal are similar in the 'tactically superb' department.
If you're missing Italy, replace them with Portugal this time around. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:15 - Nov 30 with 1835 views | Dubtractor |
I disagree wholeheartedly.
Italy aren't there because they weren't good enough, finishing behind the world's dullest team, Switzerland, in what was a really weak group to start with.
The African teams there already are of a mixed quality tbh, and whilst it would be lovely to see someone like Salah on the world stage, there will always be good quality players missing.
I'm very much of the view that the current format and numbers of teams from each FIFA area is about right to ensure an interesting tournament and competitive games. The next world cup with 48 teams will be a farce, in my opinion of course! |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:26 - Nov 30 with 1789 views | homer_123 |
Not really, there is a clear pre-tournament qualifying process - if you aren't good enough to make it through that, you don't get to play in the World Cup - nothing wrong with that.
Italy mucked up qualifying - they are out and don't play - what's wrong with that?
Are you saying that only the 'best' countries should be allowed to play or, you'd allow Argentina in because Messi plays for them, even though the rest of the Argentinian team might be poor? |  |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:41 - Nov 30 with 1742 views | J2BLUE |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:26 - Nov 30 by homer_123 |
Not really, there is a clear pre-tournament qualifying process - if you aren't good enough to make it through that, you don't get to play in the World Cup - nothing wrong with that.
Italy mucked up qualifying - they are out and don't play - what's wrong with that?
Are you saying that only the 'best' countries should be allowed to play or, you'd allow Argentina in because Messi plays for them, even though the rest of the Argentinian team might be poor? |
You're putting your own spin on his comments. He's just said more teams. The rest of your post is all you. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:59 - Nov 30 with 1653 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:35 - Nov 30 by HighgateBlue |
Are you saying you'd add 8 to 10 games onto each team's itinerary? How would that not add a great further burden from a "games to be played" perspective?
Just how long do you want this World Cup to be, two months?! |
I didn't mean it like that, it could have been better worded, granted. I was trying to convey the thought that maybe they could do away with the pre-tournament qualifying (the 8 - 10 games referred to by the other poster) altogether and add another couple of groups in the actual tournament, give everybody a chance at the main event, same number of games, or maybe 1 or 2 more possibly, everyone has a chance, proper tournament football. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:01 - Nov 30 with 1652 views | SE1blue |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:15 - Nov 30 by Dubtractor |
I disagree wholeheartedly.
Italy aren't there because they weren't good enough, finishing behind the world's dullest team, Switzerland, in what was a really weak group to start with.
The African teams there already are of a mixed quality tbh, and whilst it would be lovely to see someone like Salah on the world stage, there will always be good quality players missing.
I'm very much of the view that the current format and numbers of teams from each FIFA area is about right to ensure an interesting tournament and competitive games. The next world cup with 48 teams will be a farce, in my opinion of course! |
Agree entirely. 48 teams is ridiculous and I think allowing more teams that clearly won't win it is absolutely pointless and clearly just a money spinner.
I think hosting a tournament over three countries is also a joke. All fans of the tournament should be able to attend matches in one country from their opening game to reaching the final.
But it's no longer about the fans... | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:02 - Nov 30 with 1649 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 14:18 - Nov 30 by SE1blue |
Probably an unpopular opinion but personally, I'm not missing Italy at all.
I usually find their style of football incredibly dull and negative. Is it effective? yes, Is it entertaining? No. |
It's a crying shame for Italians and the rest of us, that such a prolific footballing nation isn't represented at the WC, IMO. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:04 - Nov 30 with 1643 views | XYZ |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:59 - Nov 30 by TalkingBlues |
I didn't mean it like that, it could have been better worded, granted. I was trying to convey the thought that maybe they could do away with the pre-tournament qualifying (the 8 - 10 games referred to by the other poster) altogether and add another couple of groups in the actual tournament, give everybody a chance at the main event, same number of games, or maybe 1 or 2 more possibly, everyone has a chance, proper tournament football. |
Brazil 35 San Marino 0 ?? | | | |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:05 - Nov 30 with 1634 views | homer_123 |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:41 - Nov 30 by J2BLUE |
You're putting your own spin on his comments. He's just said more teams. The rest of your post is all you. |
Have I done something to offend you? | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:05 - Nov 30 with 1638 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 15:26 - Nov 30 by homer_123 |
Not really, there is a clear pre-tournament qualifying process - if you aren't good enough to make it through that, you don't get to play in the World Cup - nothing wrong with that.
Italy mucked up qualifying - they are out and don't play - what's wrong with that?
Are you saying that only the 'best' countries should be allowed to play or, you'd allow Argentina in because Messi plays for them, even though the rest of the Argentinian team might be poor? |
No, I'm saying I'd like to see more nations attend the main event and not get rid of lots of them years prior, give the ma crack on the big stage. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:07 - Nov 30 with 1626 views | homer_123 |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:05 - Nov 30 by TalkingBlues |
No, I'm saying I'd like to see more nations attend the main event and not get rid of lots of them years prior, give the ma crack on the big stage. |
OK, so what was your point about Italy? [Post edited 30 Nov 2022 16:09]
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:07 - Nov 30 with 1624 views | TalkingBlues |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:04 - Nov 30 by XYZ |
Brazil 35 San Marino 0 ?? |
If that's the outcome, so be it, but I reckon if you offered San Marino the opportunity to play at the World Cup, they'd bite your arm off and not care if they did lose by a large margin. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:08 - Nov 30 with 1622 views | J2BLUE |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:05 - Nov 30 by homer_123 |
Have I done something to offend you? |
Not at all. Apologies, that post does seem rather more prickly than intended when reading it back. | |
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| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:09 - Nov 30 with 1615 views | homer_123 |
| The World Cup 2022 missing list on 16:08 - Nov 30 by J2BLUE |
Not at all. Apologies, that post does seem rather more prickly than intended when reading it back. |
Fair dos fella. | |
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