| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... 06:44 - Apr 16 with 6224 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
...appointing a celebrity as our manager
As opposed to you know, appointing an actual football manager |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 06:59 - Apr 16 with 3724 views | davblue |
If this is Gerrard/ Lampard related then no one knows whether they will be a success or a failure. No more so than a seasoned manager. It’s risky, but it might pay off.
I can’t see either getting the job, whilst I wouldn’t be shouting for them to get it, I wouldn’t be totally against it either. |  | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:06 - Apr 16 with 3704 views | BlueBadger |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 06:59 - Apr 16 by davblue |
If this is Gerrard/ Lampard related then no one knows whether they will be a success or a failure. No more so than a seasoned manager. It’s risky, but it might pay off.
I can’t see either getting the job, whilst I wouldn’t be shouting for them to get it, I wouldn’t be totally against it either. |
Well, they are VERY famous. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:10 - Apr 16 with 3687 views | tcblue |
The thing I'm most struggling with, and this might just be my misplaced sense of entitlement, is the thought that we are a small enough club to be the first job of anyone. I don't mean seasoned assistants / coaches, I mean people who would get the gig on the strength of their name alone. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:13 - Apr 16 with 3684 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:06 - Apr 16 by BlueBadger |
Well, they are VERY famous. |
So you keep fcuking saying.
You repeat yourself more than Benters. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:17 - Apr 16 with 3662 views | Paul_Knows |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 06:59 - Apr 16 by davblue |
If this is Gerrard/ Lampard related then no one knows whether they will be a success or a failure. No more so than a seasoned manager. It’s risky, but it might pay off.
I can’t see either getting the job, whilst I wouldn’t be shouting for them to get it, I wouldn’t be totally against it either. |
I agree with you. I couldn’t care less that Gerrard and Lampard are famous, by all accounts (and in only going on what I’ve read online), they’re both doing good jobs with Liverpool/Chelsea under 18’s squads, and at the end of the day, if they want to make it as first team managers somewhere, then why not here?
Again, they’re certainly not my first choice, but I wouldn’t be against the idea. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:41 - Apr 16 with 3591 views | Pendejo |
When you say "celebrity" I was imagining that folks had been suggesting Frank Skinner or Johnny Vegas or some other such person rather than a big name in football...
Mind you on recent form... Johnny Vegas may not be a bad shout... err or maybe not |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:59 - Apr 16 with 3528 views | AYACCA |
I'd like to see the chuckle brothers in charge. They'd get the team passing a lot more... "to me, to you, to me, to you" |  | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:02 - Apr 16 with 3518 views | Darth_Koont |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:17 - Apr 16 by Paul_Knows |
I agree with you. I couldn’t care less that Gerrard and Lampard are famous, by all accounts (and in only going on what I’ve read online), they’re both doing good jobs with Liverpool/Chelsea under 18’s squads, and at the end of the day, if they want to make it as first team managers somewhere, then why not here?
Again, they’re certainly not my first choice, but I wouldn’t be against the idea. |
They'd have to be given a lot of time and patience – and maybe they could be inspired choices.
But I see a huge risk with any manager who isn't experienced in handling a limited budget - or at least understands the ins and outs of the Championship and lower leagues.
Maybe a Gerrard or a Lampard could come with a Director of Football to advise them and take care of that side of the job. But it brings new variables into play and means we need to get two appointments right.
Thinking about it, I hope Warburton is very close to the top of the list as he seems one of the few candidates mentioned who has the wide-ranging experience we need. He has done a bit of everything in his time from academy and first-team coaching to manager and director of football roles. So if anyone is going to get the long-term, sustainable approach based on developing players (and get it to work) he seems a particularly good candidate. |  | | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:12 - Apr 16 with 3471 views | davblue |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:02 - Apr 16 by Darth_Koont |
They'd have to be given a lot of time and patience – and maybe they could be inspired choices.
But I see a huge risk with any manager who isn't experienced in handling a limited budget - or at least understands the ins and outs of the Championship and lower leagues.
Maybe a Gerrard or a Lampard could come with a Director of Football to advise them and take care of that side of the job. But it brings new variables into play and means we need to get two appointments right.
Thinking about it, I hope Warburton is very close to the top of the list as he seems one of the few candidates mentioned who has the wide-ranging experience we need. He has done a bit of everything in his time from academy and first-team coaching to manager and director of football roles. So if anyone is going to get the long-term, sustainable approach based on developing players (and get it to work) he seems a particularly good candidate. |
If he was first choice, i suspect they would have made their move already being as he is available.
I know the party line is they have an open mind but i suspect it's someone who is in a job. | | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:16 - Apr 16 with 3461 views | solemio |
Gerrard with Dalglish as dof.
I'm seeing if I can come up with an even dafter suggestion. | | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:18 - Apr 16 with 3457 views | witchdoctor |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:13 - Apr 16 by Reuser_is_God |
So you keep fcuking saying.
You repeat yourself more than Benters. |
oh yeah.👍 |  | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:24 - Apr 16 with 3441 views | DanTheMan |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:16 - Apr 16 by solemio |
Gerrard with Dalglish as dof.
I'm seeing if I can come up with an even dafter suggestion. |
Lampard with Redknapp as DoF. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:26 - Apr 16 with 3439 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:17 - Apr 16 by Paul_Knows |
I agree with you. I couldn’t care less that Gerrard and Lampard are famous, by all accounts (and in only going on what I’ve read online), they’re both doing good jobs with Liverpool/Chelsea under 18’s squads, and at the end of the day, if they want to make it as first team managers somewhere, then why not here?
Again, they’re certainly not my first choice, but I wouldn’t be against the idea. |
By what accounts?
On the face of it Gerrard isn’t doing badly with his Liverpool team sitting third in the northern U18 PL table, but he has less than a years experience of being a coach and that at the club he spent pretty much his whole career at. They’re 10+ points behind Man U U18’s managed by Kieran McKenna, also a relatively inexperienced coach - but no ones mentioned him for the role funnily enough
Lampard hasn’t even got a coaching role - his experience amounts to a few token sessions helping Jody Morris out...
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/chelsea/story/3400923/frank-lampard-ready-to-begi | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:26 - Apr 16 with 3435 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 07:13 - Apr 16 by Reuser_is_God |
So you keep fcuking saying.
You repeat yourself more than Benters. |
Someone’s a sucker for a celebrity | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:32 - Apr 16 with 3401 views | Paul_Knows |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:26 - Apr 16 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
By what accounts?
On the face of it Gerrard isn’t doing badly with his Liverpool team sitting third in the northern U18 PL table, but he has less than a years experience of being a coach and that at the club he spent pretty much his whole career at. They’re 10+ points behind Man U U18’s managed by Kieran McKenna, also a relatively inexperienced coach - but no ones mentioned him for the role funnily enough
Lampard hasn’t even got a coaching role - his experience amounts to a few token sessions helping Jody Morris out...
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/chelsea/story/3400923/frank-lampard-ready-to-begi |
Fair enough, I must admit I thought Lampard did have a full time role at Chelsea as a youth coach, and from what I had read online, he was doing fairly well.
Still, my basis isn't on the fact they're famous, just if they do want to make it in the world of first team management, then why couldn't we be a springboard for that? Everyone has to start somewhere.
AGAIN, they're probably not even in my top 5 who I'd like to see here, but not totally against it.
P.S (and for the record) - if Kieran McKenna would like to come on down for an interview, then be my guest, I'm all for seeing a change in direction, and he'd certainly be that. | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:35 - Apr 16 with 3382 views | PJH |
What to you reckon the new club name will be, SGIT or FLIT? |  | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:36 - Apr 16 with 3364 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:26 - Apr 16 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
By what accounts?
On the face of it Gerrard isn’t doing badly with his Liverpool team sitting third in the northern U18 PL table, but he has less than a years experience of being a coach and that at the club he spent pretty much his whole career at. They’re 10+ points behind Man U U18’s managed by Kieran McKenna, also a relatively inexperienced coach - but no ones mentioned him for the role funnily enough
Lampard hasn’t even got a coaching role - his experience amounts to a few token sessions helping Jody Morris out...
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/chelsea/story/3400923/frank-lampard-ready-to-begi |
Don't worry Evans budget won't stretch to Gerrard or Lampard plus a DoF. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:43 - Apr 16 with 3329 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:32 - Apr 16 by Paul_Knows |
Fair enough, I must admit I thought Lampard did have a full time role at Chelsea as a youth coach, and from what I had read online, he was doing fairly well.
Still, my basis isn't on the fact they're famous, just if they do want to make it in the world of first team management, then why couldn't we be a springboard for that? Everyone has to start somewhere.
AGAIN, they're probably not even in my top 5 who I'd like to see here, but not totally against it.
P.S (and for the record) - if Kieran McKenna would like to come on down for an interview, then be my guest, I'm all for seeing a change in direction, and he'd certainly be that. |
Fair enough
It’s not for me. I agree they have to start somewhere - but ideally that should be lower down the pyramid, and if it is going to be this high then they should certainly have much more coaching experience rather than just getting the job because they’re a big name | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:56 - Apr 16 with 3285 views | maccyd9 |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 06:59 - Apr 16 by davblue |
If this is Gerrard/ Lampard related then no one knows whether they will be a success or a failure. No more so than a seasoned manager. It’s risky, but it might pay off.
I can’t see either getting the job, whilst I wouldn’t be shouting for them to get it, I wouldn’t be totally against it either. |
Down voted accidently.
I don't get the negativity. Look at our managers under the Evans era.
Only Magilton and Mick will ever be looked back at with any positivity, no matter how small.
One had his first job in football and one was vastly experienced. Squeezed in were Keane and Jewell who were somewhere in the middle.
Every great, good or bad manager had a first job somewhere and given the financial disparity in the Championship there is a strong argument that our only chance of ever competing is a bold and brave appointment. Many of those on the list are safe hands but an appointment from left field in the Gerrard or Lampard mold (with relevant experienced support) could be a masterstroke.
I know I'd be prepared to take the risk rather than potentially plod along with many of those linked. | | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:57 - Apr 16 with 3269 views | Radlett_blue |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:43 - Apr 16 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Fair enough
It’s not for me. I agree they have to start somewhere - but ideally that should be lower down the pyramid, and if it is going to be this high then they should certainly have much more coaching experience rather than just getting the job because they’re a big name |
I agree that we should definitely not appoint someone with very little managerial experience.
However, I can see why big names don't want to start at the bottom because if they go to some 3rd or 4th tier club with few resources & poor players &don't have much of an impact, then they don't get a job anywhere higher up in the pyramid. |  | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:00 - Apr 16 with 3264 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:56 - Apr 16 by maccyd9 |
Down voted accidently.
I don't get the negativity. Look at our managers under the Evans era.
Only Magilton and Mick will ever be looked back at with any positivity, no matter how small.
One had his first job in football and one was vastly experienced. Squeezed in were Keane and Jewell who were somewhere in the middle.
Every great, good or bad manager had a first job somewhere and given the financial disparity in the Championship there is a strong argument that our only chance of ever competing is a bold and brave appointment. Many of those on the list are safe hands but an appointment from left field in the Gerrard or Lampard mold (with relevant experienced support) could be a masterstroke.
I know I'd be prepared to take the risk rather than potentially plod along with many of those linked. |
Added to that, Gerrard clearly wants to be manager of Liverpool one day.
But he's not going to get that by managing their U-23s for 10 years - Liverpool cannot appoint from within like they used to 30 years ago, a new manager would have had to have been there and done it and worked his way up with other clubs.
So a good starting point would be doing a good job with a mid-table Champ club and going from there..... just because one famous ex-player (Keane) was a lunatic, it doesn't mean they all are. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 9:01]
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:03 - Apr 16 with 3250 views | SomethingBlue |
If I were Town I'd want to talk to Gerrard. He's impressed a lot of people at Liverpool and beyond; he has a very good future as a coach, I'd suggest. Not to say I'd take him ahead of other options but he's serious and a very different character to Keane. | | | |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:04 - Apr 16 with 3234 views | Steve_M |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:56 - Apr 16 by maccyd9 |
Down voted accidently.
I don't get the negativity. Look at our managers under the Evans era.
Only Magilton and Mick will ever be looked back at with any positivity, no matter how small.
One had his first job in football and one was vastly experienced. Squeezed in were Keane and Jewell who were somewhere in the middle.
Every great, good or bad manager had a first job somewhere and given the financial disparity in the Championship there is a strong argument that our only chance of ever competing is a bold and brave appointment. Many of those on the list are safe hands but an appointment from left field in the Gerrard or Lampard mold (with relevant experienced support) could be a masterstroke.
I know I'd be prepared to take the risk rather than potentially plod along with many of those linked. |
Were the club better set up then I might be inclined to agree but McCarthy had to do so much more than run the first team because Milne is essentially a non-football administrator and there is no-one else to communicate with Evans.
Magilton when he started had Sheepy in charge who, for all his faults, had an understanding of football and was willing to be a PR man as well. |  |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:09 - Apr 16 with 3205 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:00 - Apr 16 by ITFC_Forever |
Added to that, Gerrard clearly wants to be manager of Liverpool one day.
But he's not going to get that by managing their U-23s for 10 years - Liverpool cannot appoint from within like they used to 30 years ago, a new manager would have had to have been there and done it and worked his way up with other clubs.
So a good starting point would be doing a good job with a mid-table Champ club and going from there..... just because one famous ex-player (Keane) was a lunatic, it doesn't mean they all are. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 9:01]
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I’m not suggesting he would be a lunatic, however I do think it would be very much akin to buying a lottery ticket, crossing our fingers and hoping for the best, as in reality there isn’t a lot to indicate what Gerrard will be like as a manager currently. We could strike lucky and it works out, but seems incredibly more likely that it wouldn’t
If he’d been coaching for 3/4 years then I’d maybe think differently - still a gamble obviously but at least he’d have had more time to develop and gain some experience | |
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| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 09:11 - Apr 16 with 3191 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Amazing how many people seem to be up for... on 08:57 - Apr 16 by Radlett_blue |
I agree that we should definitely not appoint someone with very little managerial experience.
However, I can see why big names don't want to start at the bottom because if they go to some 3rd or 4th tier club with few resources & poor players &don't have much of an impact, then they don't get a job anywhere higher up in the pyramid. |
Agree to an extent, hence the suggestion that if not they should have a lot more experience in other coaching roles
You’ve probably just neatly summed up why most big name players of late have failed in management, though | |
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