| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 13:14 - Feb 23 with 940 views | Swansea_Blue |
And the left. Horse box theory innit - both full of sh*te. |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 13:26 - Feb 23 with 929 views | charlie_blue |
Russia is a mafia state. You are unable to point out problems without serious repercussions. Farage, Trump, Johnson all hate being held to account. |  | | |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 14:14 - Feb 23 with 903 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 13:14 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue |
And the left. Horse box theory innit - both full of sh*te. |
Except the left didn't especially surprise me as the Soviet regime has always been seen to be communist and therefore left in its policies.
I agree, anyone supportive of his general leadership should be viewed with distrust but it surprised me initially his popularity amongst those with right-wing views. |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 14:42 - Feb 23 with 882 views | Darth_Koont |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 12:42 - Feb 23 by Guthrum |
That's where the concepts of "Left", "Right" and "Centre" break down. The people who've done the damage are less politically aligned than after one specific thing - minimal regulation so they can make money by whatever means they see fit, then keep hold of all of it. They aren't centrists and have only taken over the right because they're least encumbered (post-Thatcher/Reagan) with concepts like social conscience.
It's those same people, through their control of the media, who've created the narrative that "everything is terrible under the moderates", that it would be so much easier to achieve perfection under more radical leadership*. Which, so often, proves not to be the case. Incremental reform has always been more successful than revolution.
* Before you take this as an attack upon Corbyn, I never thought his actual policies were that radical, really. |
I agree with you that Corbyn’s policies were hardly radical and more based on what most people could agree on if they were talking about the actual issues.
Not sure about the rest though. We’ve had centre-right and right politics dominating government and mainstream debate for over 40 years. And a complete slipping of democratic principles and actual government of the UK as a whole. It’s all just short-term electoral posturing nowadays. And that’s largely with people taking the “middle ground” rather than actively rejecting that slide towards the bottom. |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 14:49 - Feb 23 with 865 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 11:55 - Feb 23 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Absolutely. Trump is totally deranged. However, it also plays to the narrative of his supporters. People I know who I would describe as on the right of politics have always been admirers of Putin and I thought it strange. However, Guthers' point that Putin has backed their projects financially is very pertinent. |
And Fox are doing his deranged media shout-outs for him
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 15:15 - Feb 23 with 848 views | BlueBadger |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 14:49 - Feb 23 by ElderGrizzly |
And Fox are doing his deranged media shout-outs for him
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He threatened to get Trump sacked if he disagreed with him... |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 15:19 - Feb 23 with 841 views | CaptainAhab |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 14:49 - Feb 23 by ElderGrizzly |
And Fox are doing his deranged media shout-outs for him
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The cognitive dissonance of the trump supporting republicans siding with Putin over their president and country is utterly staggering and utterly disturbing. | | | |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 15:49 - Feb 23 with 820 views | Rob88 |
Not exclusively the right though is it. Jeremy Corbyn and his Stop the War cronies seem to be ok with him as well. | | | |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 17:55 - Feb 23 with 774 views | Darth_Koont |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 15:49 - Feb 23 by Rob88 |
Not exclusively the right though is it. Jeremy Corbyn and his Stop the War cronies seem to be ok with him as well. |
Nonsense. | |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 18:23 - Feb 23 with 747 views | Rob88 |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 17:55 - Feb 23 by Darth_Koont |
Nonsense. |
The bit about JC being left wing? | | | |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 18:28 - Feb 23 with 727 views | tractordownsouth |
In 2019 it was all about “take back control of our democracy” but now they’re cheering on an authoritarian despot streamrollering his way into a sovereign state. |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 18:36 - Feb 23 with 708 views | tractordownsouth |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 11:57 - Feb 23 by nodge_blue |
Its sickening.
He would have been praising Hitler back in the 1930s.
I fear that if Trump ever gets back in power he will look to rewrite the rule book in America too. |
Tucker Carlson was doing his best Lord Haw Haw impression on Fox News last night. Awful people standing up for foreign dictators under the guise of patriotism. | |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:07 - Feb 23 with 676 views | Reusers_Tash |
In terms of a strategic play that gives Putin at least the chance in his and his supporters mind, to legitimise him invading Ukraine without actually invading it, it is actually tactically pretty smart. Turns his “claim” on the world stage into a border dispute and not war. Not going into the rights and wrongs, which clearly Putin is a wrongun and this invasion is repulsive treatment of a sovereign country but he has unfortunately so far run rings around the West. | | | |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:25 - Feb 23 with 655 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Is it because he has more in common with the authoritarian right than any semblance of anything to do with left policies? |  |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:46 - Feb 23 with 633 views | Reusers_Tash |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:25 - Feb 23 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Is it because he has more in common with the authoritarian right than any semblance of anything to do with left policies? |
As an observation regarding “left” vs “right” here in the US and Canada, I’m not sure if doing a blind test based on pure policy you wouldn’t have it the other way around. Tell me “left wing” Justin Trudeau’s actions are not authoritarian or the lefts stance on removing personal choice is not authoritarian vs pro-choice? The left wing Justin Trudeau admiring China as the way to get things done? An interesting debate. | | | |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:56 - Feb 23 with 620 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 19:46 - Feb 23 by Reusers_Tash |
As an observation regarding “left” vs “right” here in the US and Canada, I’m not sure if doing a blind test based on pure policy you wouldn’t have it the other way around. Tell me “left wing” Justin Trudeau’s actions are not authoritarian or the lefts stance on removing personal choice is not authoritarian vs pro-choice? The left wing Justin Trudeau admiring China as the way to get things done? An interesting debate. |
All those that get to exert power are essentially simply Statists....one way or another they seem to be more concerned about running things for corporations (and consumers) rather than citizens.
Perhaps some of the Scandinavian social democracies are nearer the mark and maybe Ardern in NZ but I am pretty much guessing about them. | |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 00:04 - Feb 24 with 569 views | BlueBadger |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 15:49 - Feb 23 by Rob88 |
Not exclusively the right though is it. Jeremy Corbyn and his Stop the War cronies seem to be ok with him as well. |
In all fairness, that appeals to be because they're dwelling in some kind of weird time warp where Russia is still nominally 'socialist'. | |
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| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 00:20 - Feb 24 with 555 views | Darth_Koont |
| Why is it that Putin has always been a favourite of the right? on 00:04 - Feb 24 by BlueBadger |
In all fairness, that appeals to be because they're dwelling in some kind of weird time warp where Russia is still nominally 'socialist'. |
Nonsense. | |
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