| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) 12:58 - Mar 1 with 5151 views | Pinewoodblue |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:00 - Mar 1 with 4646 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
Dave Bowman for me is a problem. Leads and heads recruitment, but he was MM man. We are working under different financial constraints now. The likes of Waghorn and Garner are now out of the question, he’s more likely looking at Gleason, Foley and Giles Coke.
There lies a problem. |  |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:01 - Mar 1 with 4629 views | LankHenners |
One's a good guy covering about 5 or 6 jobs and the other's a good guy that the manager doesn't want to listen to.
They're not being used properly which falls at Lambert for the latter and Evans for the former (and the latter a bit as well as he should have a structure in place that means he gets used properly). |  |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:02 - Mar 1 with 4630 views | agentp |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:00 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Dave Bowman for me is a problem. Leads and heads recruitment, but he was MM man. We are working under different financial constraints now. The likes of Waghorn and Garner are now out of the question, he’s more likely looking at Gleason, Foley and Giles Coke.
There lies a problem. |
Pretty sure KVY was suggested by Bowman and Hurst wouldn't sign him because of that. |  |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:05 - Mar 1 with 4593 views | LankHenners |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:00 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Dave Bowman for me is a problem. Leads and heads recruitment, but he was MM man. We are working under different financial constraints now. The likes of Waghorn and Garner are now out of the question, he’s more likely looking at Gleason, Foley and Giles Coke.
There lies a problem. |
The problem with Dave Bowman is that the managers since Mick didn't want to listen to him. He's an excellent resource to have at the club which run properly would allow him to have a role that could oversee recruitment which is vital to an actual long term strategy rather than just handing a dope of a manager a massive contract. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:07 - Mar 1 with 4577 views | jaykay |
i blame the turnstile operators . since you couldn't pay on the gate, things have gone to the dogs |  |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:07 - Mar 1 with 4573 views | SomethingBlue |
Not quite sure how involved Bowman is in practice (others will know). O'Neill himself isn't a problem — he's just having to spread himself incredibly thinly because ITFC has an infrastructure that even some League Two clubs can put to shame and until that changes people can worry about who manages the team all they like. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 13:07]
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 16:56 - Mar 1 with 4390 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:07 - Mar 1 by SomethingBlue |
Not quite sure how involved Bowman is in practice (others will know). O'Neill himself isn't a problem — he's just having to spread himself incredibly thinly because ITFC has an infrastructure that even some League Two clubs can put to shame and until that changes people can worry about who manages the team all they like. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 13:07]
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Who does the coaching and training …….is it Lambert or Taylor …...whoever it is they are not getting the best out of our squad .
Is Lambert just a good PR man that Evans chose to get the fans back | | | |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:11 - Mar 1 with 4360 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:02 - Mar 1 by agentp |
Pretty sure KVY was suggested by Bowman and Hurst wouldn't sign him because of that. |
Hurst wouldn’t sign KVY because he was recommended by Bowman? How does that make sense.
The recruitment at this club has be predominately horrendous for many of year, Dave Bowman is head of recruitment, for me he’s got a lot wrong, squad lacks real quality and dynamism, falls at Bowmans door I’m afraid. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:14 - Mar 1 with 4348 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 13:05 - Mar 1 by LankHenners |
The problem with Dave Bowman is that the managers since Mick didn't want to listen to him. He's an excellent resource to have at the club which run properly would allow him to have a role that could oversee recruitment which is vital to an actual long term strategy rather than just handing a dope of a manager a massive contract. |
It is ok being able to work at a properly run football club (presume you mean financially), but the reality is for him is he isn’t, he’s a financially stricken club, he knows the parameters he has to work in, and if he can’t recruit properly for building a better squad which isn’t flooded with bang average boring professionals he needs to be replaced in my opinion. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:31 - Mar 1 with 4312 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:11 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Hurst wouldn’t sign KVY because he was recommended by Bowman? How does that make sense.
The recruitment at this club has be predominately horrendous for many of year, Dave Bowman is head of recruitment, for me he’s got a lot wrong, squad lacks real quality and dynamism, falls at Bowmans door I’m afraid. |
He doesn’t head up recruitment, if we’d have let him do so we wouldn’t have made such a sh*t show of the summer window in 2018 |  |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 18:08 - Mar 1 with 4260 views | agentp |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:31 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
He doesn’t head up recruitment, if we’d have let him do so we wouldn’t have made such a sh*t show of the summer window in 2018 |
This. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 18:29 - Mar 1 with 4181 views | LankHenners |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:14 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
It is ok being able to work at a properly run football club (presume you mean financially), but the reality is for him is he isn’t, he’s a financially stricken club, he knows the parameters he has to work in, and if he can’t recruit properly for building a better squad which isn’t flooded with bang average boring professionals he needs to be replaced in my opinion. |
The players he had a large part in recruiting saw us a comfortable and competitive team in the division above the one we’re currently in. The parameters he and Mick were working in meant we had to go for a several ‘punts’, some of which fared better than others but the main players brought in to be first teamers and move the team on (including loans) were on the whole very successful.
Hardly his fault if he gets sidelined by the subsequent managers. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:27 - Mar 1 with 4076 views | Oxford_Blue |
How can we possibly evaluate them? We don’t work at the club, don’t see their objectives or performance or work. | | | |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:29 - Mar 1 with 4071 views | bazgammon |
Evans has had some dreadful advisors during his time. I would say that two of the biggest culprits in our decline are Chambers and Skuse. If they were as good as some would have you believe other clubs would have been trying to side them for years, funny that that has never been the case. I think they have been heading player power for some time hoodwinking at least three managers MM, Hirst and Lambert into thinking they are indispensable. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 21:13]
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:42 - Mar 1 with 4015 views | Swansea_Blue |
My team is rarely passin’
And it wouldn't be a bad thing
But we don't get no results
And that's no lie
We spent the night in Stanley
Where we weren’t very manly
From that day I kissed our hopes goodbye
Don't blame it on the O’Neil
Don't blame it on the Bowman
Don't blame it on good times
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:49 - Mar 1 with 4006 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:31 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
He doesn’t head up recruitment, if we’d have let him do so we wouldn’t have made such a sh*t show of the summer window in 2018 |
He’s only part-time here now too isn’t he? Working more and more with MM at Ireland |  | | |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:06 - Mar 1 with 3961 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:49 - Mar 1 by ElderGrizzly |
He’s only part-time here now too isn’t he? Working more and more with MM at Ireland |
I don’t think he does much with Mick, not much to do | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:07 - Mar 1 with 3956 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 20:29 - Mar 1 by bazgammon |
Evans has had some dreadful advisors during his time. I would say that two of the biggest culprits in our decline are Chambers and Skuse. If they were as good as some would have you believe other clubs would have been trying to side them for years, funny that that has never been the case. I think they have been heading player power for some time hoodwinking at least three managers MM, Hirst and Lambert into thinking they are indispensable. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 21:13]
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:09 - Mar 1 with 3948 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 17:31 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
He doesn’t head up recruitment, if we’d have let him do so we wouldn’t have made such a sh*t show of the summer window in 2018 |
He does.
“He continues to oversee the Blues' broad scouting network under Paul Lambert.”
“ Effectively the club’s chief scout despite his job title” | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:16 - Mar 1 with 3918 views | bazgammon |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:07 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
Such a weird post |
Why is it weird? Evans has had some terrible advisors in Clegg and Milne, O'Neill doesn't seem to know any better. Skuse and Chambers are the common denominator at playing level in that the last three managers have deemed them 1st choices with perhaps of Skuse over the last couple of months. Logic suggests they have some kind of player power and tell me what clubs have ever wanted to sign these 'tremendous servants'... none, you know why cos they aint very good. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:17 - Mar 1 with 3912 views | BryanPlug |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:19 - Mar 1 with 3892 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:09 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
He does.
“He continues to oversee the Blues' broad scouting network under Paul Lambert.”
“ Effectively the club’s chief scout despite his job title” |
If you think he had anything to do with that disaster window in 2018 then you are massively mistaken. | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:22 - Mar 1 with 3880 views | bournemouthblue |
The recruitment in the summer has actually been fairly successful though?
Wilson has been far better than expected
KVY was a revelation
Norwood has done alright
Garbutt has been a good find and unlikely to stay without promotion
Keane was worth a go
Holy has been middling I guess but looks the better of the two keepers currently
The jury is out on Josh Earl
Anthony Georgiou looked promising without ever getting a consistent run for us to find out?
Then we have some academy signings?
Considering the mess we came down with, Lambert did seem to turn things around quickly and get things were moving in the right direction before the implosion which has since followed
Have we got the best squad in the division? Of course not, is it one of the best squads in the division probably. It is certainly under performing but don't believe the hype; its about the fifth best squad and lacks a Plan B when Plan A has failed and boy has it failed for some time now!
All is not lost, the issue for now is where we go from here. I have no faith in Evans to allow Lambert or any other manager for that matter to properly recruit who we need to move forward next season. That's the real concern and if that's the case, we could continue to slip slide down the leagues even further. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 23:57]
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:23 - Mar 1 with 3873 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:16 - Mar 1 by bazgammon |
Why is it weird? Evans has had some terrible advisors in Clegg and Milne, O'Neill doesn't seem to know any better. Skuse and Chambers are the common denominator at playing level in that the last three managers have deemed them 1st choices with perhaps of Skuse over the last couple of months. Logic suggests they have some kind of player power and tell me what clubs have ever wanted to sign these 'tremendous servants'... none, you know why cos they aint very good. |
So Chambers and Skuse have gone from Mick’s men, to hoodwinking him through player power to play them and then the following 2 managers.
If they are that good at fooling people then make them the management team as they are clearly wasted on a football pitch when masters of psychology and what not.
P.S - They were also 2 of the constants when we were good | |
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| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:28 - Mar 1 with 3848 views | bazgammon |
| Lee O’Neill and Dave Bowman surely they are part of the problem (n/t) on 21:23 - Mar 1 by itfcjoe |
So Chambers and Skuse have gone from Mick’s men, to hoodwinking him through player power to play them and then the following 2 managers.
If they are that good at fooling people then make them the management team as they are clearly wasted on a football pitch when masters of psychology and what not.
P.S - They were also 2 of the constants when we were good |
when was that 2015? they've been constants in a declining side for seasons and one of them is still Captain. How come no one wanted to sign them if they are such important/good players? | |
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