| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, 22:00 - Nov 26 with 2036 views | SamWhiteUK |
when the linesman didn't flag in the first instance?
Never understood that. |  |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:02 - Nov 26 with 2017 views | Illinoisblue |
the ref needs to officially explain why it was disallowed. |  |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:19 - Nov 26 with 1905 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:02 - Nov 26 by Illinoisblue |
the ref needs to officially explain why it was disallowed. |
Watching the clips, they appealed for a handball, their keeper went sprinting to the Lineo.
If that's it, I fail to see how he had a view of it at all. [Post edited 26 Nov 2019 22:20]
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:20 - Nov 26 with 1896 views | Trequartista |
It's called "getting your stories straight" |  |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:21 - Nov 26 with 1865 views | Hullblue |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:19 - Nov 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Watching the clips, they appealed for a handball, their keeper went sprinting to the Lineo.
If that's it, I fail to see how he had a view of it at all. [Post edited 26 Nov 2019 22:20]
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I thought it was for handball too. They can’t have been sure because it took them about 20 minutes to make the decision - and if you’re not sure, isn’t the advantage supposed to go with the attacking team? Or is that one of those football myths? |  |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:54 - Nov 26 with 1727 views | runaround |
The linesman didn’t flag until speaking with the ref then flagged after the ref signalled no goal so surely that means they think it’s offside which it quite clearly isn’t. Just an awful awful decision in our most important game of the season so far 😡 |  | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:00 - Nov 26 with 1682 views | Suffolktractor |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:54 - Nov 26 by runaround |
The linesman didn’t flag until speaking with the ref then flagged after the ref signalled no goal so surely that means they think it’s offside which it quite clearly isn’t. Just an awful awful decision in our most important game of the season so far 😡 |
The goal was given, the Lino didn’t flag for offside or a foul. The Wycombe players appeal for handball, the ref talks in his mike to some imaginary being, then goes to the Lino who obviously had seen nothing wrong with the goal or he would have flagged and drawn the ref over. They decide to disallow the goal so the Lino then puts his flag up for offside, which by the way it wasn’t.
Not just for that, but that ref should never be allowed near a football ground again. |  | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:04 - Nov 26 with 1638 views | JakeITFC |
Think their thought process is that the linesman thought Jackson was in an offside position but hadn’t touched it, and the ref has said he thought he’d touched it so was asking the Lino if he was offside.
As it happens they were both wrong, but that’s what we came to expect tonight. |  | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:11 - Nov 26 with 1611 views | longtimefan |
The goal was disallowed for offside as evidenced by the assistant raising his flag once he’d finished his discussion with the ref. It’s not a particularly elegant process and hugely frustrating but they have followed the guidance to officials correctly. Assistants are told not to flag immediately if they are unsure whether the player in the offside position has touched the ball and to confer with the ref. I would imagine the assistant was shouting in his mic straight away but the ref probably couldn’t hear him over the cheering. The fact that the assistant hadn’t run back up the line also indicates he wasn’t happy. Mind you I’m not convinced that Jackson wasn’t actually level when the ball left Chamber’s head. [Post edited 3 Dec 2019 14:35]
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:12 - Nov 26 with 1595 views | pointofblue |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:11 - Nov 26 by longtimefan |
The goal was disallowed for offside as evidenced by the assistant raising his flag once he’d finished his discussion with the ref. It’s not a particularly elegant process and hugely frustrating but they have followed the guidance to officials correctly. Assistants are told not to flag immediately if they are unsure whether the player in the offside position has touched the ball and to confer with the ref. I would imagine the assistant was shouting in his mic straight away but the ref probably couldn’t hear him over the cheering. The fact that the assistant hadn’t run back up the line also indicates he wasn’t happy. Mind you I’m not convinced that Jackson wasn’t actually level when the ball left Chamber’s head. [Post edited 3 Dec 2019 14:35]
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I disagree - firstly I think those laws are only in place for VAR, where the decision can be reviewed and reversed via TV replays. Secondly, even if that was the case, there was nothing stopping the assistant referee raising the flag the moment the ball hit the back of the net. | |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:16 - Nov 26 with 1565 views | longtimefan |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:12 - Nov 26 by pointofblue |
I disagree - firstly I think those laws are only in place for VAR, where the decision can be reviewed and reversed via TV replays. Secondly, even if that was the case, there was nothing stopping the assistant referee raising the flag the moment the ball hit the back of the net. |
Sorry you are wrong. Assistant is asked not to flag if he is unsure whether the player in offside has touched the ball or interfered. Nothing to do with VAR | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:19 - Nov 26 with 1540 views | Suffolktractor |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:16 - Nov 26 by longtimefan |
Sorry you are wrong. Assistant is asked not to flag if he is unsure whether the player in offside has touched the ball or interfered. Nothing to do with VAR |
So are you saying he was unsure whether Jackson was offside when the ball hit the back of the net, but a minute later he became sure? Cos I’m not sure I understand your point.
Either way they got it wrong cos it was an own goal. | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:21 - Nov 26 with 1522 views | sparks |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:19 - Nov 26 by Suffolktractor |
So are you saying he was unsure whether Jackson was offside when the ball hit the back of the net, but a minute later he became sure? Cos I’m not sure I understand your point.
Either way they got it wrong cos it was an own goal. |
Presumably he didnt flag because he didnt know if jackson had touched the ball. Ref comes over- and confirms that he believes there was a touch- asks the linesman if Jackson was, in that case, offside...
Sometimes they might get it right... |  |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:23 - Nov 26 with 1489 views | Suffolktractor |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:21 - Nov 26 by sparks |
Presumably he didnt flag because he didnt know if jackson had touched the ball. Ref comes over- and confirms that he believes there was a touch- asks the linesman if Jackson was, in that case, offside...
Sometimes they might get it right... |
So we are getting somewhere now. The linesman didn’t really get it wrong, but the ref most certainly did as he did with most things tonight! | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:24 - Nov 26 with 1482 views | pointofblue |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:16 - Nov 26 by longtimefan |
Sorry you are wrong. Assistant is asked not to flag if he is unsure whether the player in offside has touched the ball or interfered. Nothing to do with VAR |
So what happened next? The Wycombe players surrounded the referee, who seemingly had given a goal, and suddenly the decision was reversed. | |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:25 - Nov 26 with 1474 views | longtimefan |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:21 - Nov 26 by sparks |
Presumably he didnt flag because he didnt know if jackson had touched the ball. Ref comes over- and confirms that he believes there was a touch- asks the linesman if Jackson was, in that case, offside...
Sometimes they might get it right... |
Correct. Personally i thought the ball hit both defender and Jackson but I’m not totally convinced he was actually offside when Chambers heads it. | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 06:45 - Nov 27 with 1245 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:21 - Nov 26 by sparks |
Presumably he didnt flag because he didnt know if jackson had touched the ball. Ref comes over- and confirms that he believes there was a touch- asks the linesman if Jackson was, in that case, offside...
Sometimes they might get it right... |
Have a day off.
The ref took a minute to decide Jackson may have got a touch?
If he thought that he’d have gone straight over to the assistant to confer. | |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 07:26 - Nov 27 with 1070 views | SamWhiteUK |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 06:45 - Nov 27 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
Have a day off.
The ref took a minute to decide Jackson may have got a touch?
If he thought that he’d have gone straight over to the assistant to confer. |
Exactly. The Wycombe players' antics turned his head, I feel. | |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 07:53 - Nov 27 with 1000 views | braveblue |
All because they surrounded him. Norwood slowly approached the lino and gets banned for a game. Ref should be forced to explain. Saying the comms were not working is nonsense. If offside why was the flag not up? | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 08:52 - Nov 27 with 899 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 22:21 - Nov 26 by Hullblue |
I thought it was for handball too. They can’t have been sure because it took them about 20 minutes to make the decision - and if you’re not sure, isn’t the advantage supposed to go with the attacking team? Or is that one of those football myths? |
Surely with VAR you have seen that it never gives the advantage to the attacking team? Goals disallowed for fingernail being in offside position | | | |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 09:10 - Nov 27 with 870 views | sparks |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:24 - Nov 26 by pointofblue |
So what happened next? The Wycombe players surrounded the referee, who seemingly had given a goal, and suddenly the decision was reversed. |
When did he give the goal? The highlights suggest otherwise. He whistled but was not pointing towards the centre. He then goes off screen. | |
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| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 09:28 - Nov 27 with 792 views | flimflam |
| How can the ref go to the lino, and then rule out a goal for offside, on 23:11 - Nov 26 by longtimefan |
The goal was disallowed for offside as evidenced by the assistant raising his flag once he’d finished his discussion with the ref. It’s not a particularly elegant process and hugely frustrating but they have followed the guidance to officials correctly. Assistants are told not to flag immediately if they are unsure whether the player in the offside position has touched the ball and to confer with the ref. I would imagine the assistant was shouting in his mic straight away but the ref probably couldn’t hear him over the cheering. The fact that the assistant hadn’t run back up the line also indicates he wasn’t happy. Mind you I’m not convinced that Jackson wasn’t actually level when the ball left Chamber’s head. [Post edited 3 Dec 2019 14:35]
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If the linesman was 100% happy it was a good goal like you say he would of ran back to the halfway line to indicate as much.
I noticed instantly he had not so knew something was going to happen and I initially thought it was for handball as from my angle could not see it hit the defender on the way through.
Watching back on the Roger Mellie it is an awful decision from both officials. |  | | |
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