| Oh Jeremy..... 18:36 - Mar 23 with 161404 views | ElderGrizzly |
Maybe he heard Facebook can end careers....
(Click on Twitter Link to see Corbyn’s comments) [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 18:42]
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 09:51 - Mar 26 with 4510 views | brazil1982 |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 08:01 - Mar 26 by BloomBlue |
Well Corbyn after getting his orders from momentum's press team has admitted Labour has an anti-semitism problem.
The far left has been against the Jewish community for years because they see them as rich and have constantly tried to hide that. |
I thought that wasn't a problem in the Labour Party? Didn't Chucklebarti say so? |  | | |
| This thread seems like a good moment for me to post my first piece of propaganda on 09:56 - Mar 26 with 4473 views | No9 |
| This thread seems like a good moment for me to post my first piece of propaganda on 00:56 - Mar 26 by BackToRussia |
Much easier to respond to Chukka, aka a man who will literally espouse any tenet if he thought it gained him a political advantage. |
That is very much how he came across yesterday | | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 09:57 - Mar 26 with 4464 views | No9 |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 08:01 - Mar 26 by BloomBlue |
Well Corbyn after getting his orders from momentum's press team has admitted Labour has an anti-semitism problem.
The far left has been against the Jewish community for years because they see them as rich and have constantly tried to hide that. |
If they want money then one would consider they would cosy up to the contributors? | | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 09:57 - Mar 26 with 4485 views | hype313 |
Never seen so much whatabouterry in one thread. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:09 - Mar 26 with 4410 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 09:51 - Mar 26 by brazil1982 |
I thought that wasn't a problem in the Labour Party? Didn't Chucklebarti say so? |
Racist! |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:16 - Mar 26 with 4452 views | jayceee |
Discrimination, bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism and racism are all disgusting and clearly need to be addressed where found and stamped out from all walks of life.
One step worse than all that, however is the weaponising of these issues for political gain because it undermines any genuine movements that really attempt to eradicate these kinds of behavior.
Anyone jumping on this band wagon shame on you - all respect gone as your blatant twisting of facts undermines the causes.
Why not fight for you political beliefs with solutions and decent policy ideas rather than trying to paint who you don't like with a BS brush? Just shows how desperate the right has become - and indeed how gullible a portion of the population have become to actually believe the blatant smear attempts - although I suspect even they don't really believe Corbyn is anti-semite, because he clearly isn't. Being critical of Israeli aggression does NOT equate to anti-seminism, no matter how some would like you to believe otherwise.
Elections are getting closer, and the right are using disgusting tactics to smear - that's all there is to it.
The Jewish Voice for Labour have put out a statement supporting Corbyn and his consistent commitment to anti racism, social justice and fairness, and criticising the Board of Deputies for joining the hard right dog whistle attacks on Labour to influence the local elections.
Here it is here: http://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attack
Ask yourselves why this doesn't appear in the MSM? |  | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:20 - Mar 26 with 4440 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:16 - Mar 26 by jayceee |
Discrimination, bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism and racism are all disgusting and clearly need to be addressed where found and stamped out from all walks of life.
One step worse than all that, however is the weaponising of these issues for political gain because it undermines any genuine movements that really attempt to eradicate these kinds of behavior.
Anyone jumping on this band wagon shame on you - all respect gone as your blatant twisting of facts undermines the causes.
Why not fight for you political beliefs with solutions and decent policy ideas rather than trying to paint who you don't like with a BS brush? Just shows how desperate the right has become - and indeed how gullible a portion of the population have become to actually believe the blatant smear attempts - although I suspect even they don't really believe Corbyn is anti-semite, because he clearly isn't. Being critical of Israeli aggression does NOT equate to anti-seminism, no matter how some would like you to believe otherwise.
Elections are getting closer, and the right are using disgusting tactics to smear - that's all there is to it.
The Jewish Voice for Labour have put out a statement supporting Corbyn and his consistent commitment to anti racism, social justice and fairness, and criticising the Board of Deputies for joining the hard right dog whistle attacks on Labour to influence the local elections.
Here it is here: http://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attack
Ask yourselves why this doesn't appear in the MSM? |
Great post. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:26 - Mar 26 with 4430 views | BloomBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:16 - Mar 26 by jayceee |
Discrimination, bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism and racism are all disgusting and clearly need to be addressed where found and stamped out from all walks of life.
One step worse than all that, however is the weaponising of these issues for political gain because it undermines any genuine movements that really attempt to eradicate these kinds of behavior.
Anyone jumping on this band wagon shame on you - all respect gone as your blatant twisting of facts undermines the causes.
Why not fight for you political beliefs with solutions and decent policy ideas rather than trying to paint who you don't like with a BS brush? Just shows how desperate the right has become - and indeed how gullible a portion of the population have become to actually believe the blatant smear attempts - although I suspect even they don't really believe Corbyn is anti-semite, because he clearly isn't. Being critical of Israeli aggression does NOT equate to anti-seminism, no matter how some would like you to believe otherwise.
Elections are getting closer, and the right are using disgusting tactics to smear - that's all there is to it.
The Jewish Voice for Labour have put out a statement supporting Corbyn and his consistent commitment to anti racism, social justice and fairness, and criticising the Board of Deputies for joining the hard right dog whistle attacks on Labour to influence the local elections.
Here it is here: http://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attack
Ask yourselves why this doesn't appear in the MSM? |
Another person fooled by momentums extreme left wing views and has his head in the sand.
'For the many, not the few' (excluding jews) |  | | |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:34 - Mar 26 with 4388 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:16 - Mar 26 by jayceee |
Discrimination, bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism and racism are all disgusting and clearly need to be addressed where found and stamped out from all walks of life.
One step worse than all that, however is the weaponising of these issues for political gain because it undermines any genuine movements that really attempt to eradicate these kinds of behavior.
Anyone jumping on this band wagon shame on you - all respect gone as your blatant twisting of facts undermines the causes.
Why not fight for you political beliefs with solutions and decent policy ideas rather than trying to paint who you don't like with a BS brush? Just shows how desperate the right has become - and indeed how gullible a portion of the population have become to actually believe the blatant smear attempts - although I suspect even they don't really believe Corbyn is anti-semite, because he clearly isn't. Being critical of Israeli aggression does NOT equate to anti-seminism, no matter how some would like you to believe otherwise.
Elections are getting closer, and the right are using disgusting tactics to smear - that's all there is to it.
The Jewish Voice for Labour have put out a statement supporting Corbyn and his consistent commitment to anti racism, social justice and fairness, and criticising the Board of Deputies for joining the hard right dog whistle attacks on Labour to influence the local elections.
Here it is here: http://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attack
Ask yourselves why this doesn't appear in the MSM? |
As the editor of the Jewish Chronicle, Stephen Pollard, said: “There really is only one purpose to JVL – to deflect criticism of Labour’s response to anti-Semitism under Corbyn. That is its only function. The rest is sophistry.”
The JVL is a fringe group of far left Corbynistas who put his brand of socialism ahead of their Jewishness. They aren’t representative of the wider Jewish community. The Board of deputies are. This is what they have said.
Today, leaders of British Jewry tell Jeremy Corbyn that enough is enough. We have had enough of hearing that Jeremy Corbyn “opposes antisemitism”, whilst the mainstream majority of British Jews, and their concerns, are ignored by him and those he leads.
There is a repeated institutional failure to properly address Jewish concerns and to tackle antisemitism, with the Chakrabarti Report being the most glaring example of this.
Jeremy Corbyn did not invent this form of politics, but he has had a lifetime within it, and now personifies its problems and dangers. He issues empty statements about opposing antisemitism, but does nothing to understand or address it. We conclude that he cannot seriously contemplate antisemitism, because he is so ideologically fixed within a far left worldview that is instinctively hostile to mainstream Jewish communities.
When Jews complain about an obviously antisemitic mural in Tower Hamlets, Corbyn of course supports the artist. Hizbollah commits terrorist atrocities against Jews, but Corbyn calls them his friends and attends pro-Hizbollah rallies in London. Exactly the same goes for Hamas. Raed Salah says Jews kill Christian children to drink their blood. Corbyn opposes his extradition and invites him for tea at the House of Commons. These are not the only cases. He is repeatedly found alongside people with blatantly antisemitic views, but claims never to hear or read them.
Again and again, Jeremy Corbyn has sided with antisemites rather than Jews. At best, this derives from the far left’s obsessive hatred of Zionism, Zionists and Israel. At worst, it suggests a conspiratorial worldview in which mainstream Jewish communities are believed to be a hostile entity, a class enemy.
When Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader of the Labour Party, Jews expressed sincere and profound fears as to how such politics would impact upon their wellbeing. Our concerns were never taken seriously. Three years on, the Party and British Jews are reaping the consequences.
Routine statements against antisemitism “and all forms of racism” get nowhere near dealing with the problem, because what distinguishes antisemitism from other forms of racism is the power that Jews are alleged to hold, and how they are charged with conspiring together against what is good.
This is not only historic, or about what Jeremy Corbyn did before being Party leader. It is also utterly contemporary. There is literally not a single day in which Labour Party spaces, either online or in meetings, do not repeat the same fundamental antisemitic slanders against Jews. We are told that our concerns are faked, and done at the command of Israel and/or Zionism (whatever that means); that antisemitism is merely “criticism of Israel”; that we call any and all criticism of Israel “antisemitic”; that the Rothschilds run the world; that ISIS terrorism is a fake front for Israel; that Zionists are the new Nazis; and that Zionists collaborate with Nazis.
Rightly or wrongly, those who push this offensive material regard Jeremy Corbyn as their figurehead. They display an obsessive hatred of Israel alongside conspiracy theories and fake news. These repeated actions do serous harm to British Jews and to the British Labour Party.
Jeremy Corbyn is the only person with the standing to demand that all of this stops. Enough is enough
The board of deputies represent all British Jews. They are not affiliated to any political party. The JLV are a fringe Cirbyn supporting group who don’t even represent a majority of Jewish Labour Members. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:50 - Mar 26 with 4383 views | brazil1982 |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:16 - Mar 26 by jayceee |
Discrimination, bigotry, misogyny, antisemitism and racism are all disgusting and clearly need to be addressed where found and stamped out from all walks of life.
One step worse than all that, however is the weaponising of these issues for political gain because it undermines any genuine movements that really attempt to eradicate these kinds of behavior.
Anyone jumping on this band wagon shame on you - all respect gone as your blatant twisting of facts undermines the causes.
Why not fight for you political beliefs with solutions and decent policy ideas rather than trying to paint who you don't like with a BS brush? Just shows how desperate the right has become - and indeed how gullible a portion of the population have become to actually believe the blatant smear attempts - although I suspect even they don't really believe Corbyn is anti-semite, because he clearly isn't. Being critical of Israeli aggression does NOT equate to anti-seminism, no matter how some would like you to believe otherwise.
Elections are getting closer, and the right are using disgusting tactics to smear - that's all there is to it.
The Jewish Voice for Labour have put out a statement supporting Corbyn and his consistent commitment to anti racism, social justice and fairness, and criticising the Board of Deputies for joining the hard right dog whistle attacks on Labour to influence the local elections.
Here it is here: http://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/jvl/a-jvl-statement-on-the-current-attack
Ask yourselves why this doesn't appear in the MSM? |
A 100% Corbyn and Labour story...and still the "right" are blamed. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:52 - Mar 26 with 4353 views | lowhouseblue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 10:34 - Mar 26 by GlasgowBlue |
As the editor of the Jewish Chronicle, Stephen Pollard, said: “There really is only one purpose to JVL – to deflect criticism of Labour’s response to anti-Semitism under Corbyn. That is its only function. The rest is sophistry.”
The JVL is a fringe group of far left Corbynistas who put his brand of socialism ahead of their Jewishness. They aren’t representative of the wider Jewish community. The Board of deputies are. This is what they have said.
Today, leaders of British Jewry tell Jeremy Corbyn that enough is enough. We have had enough of hearing that Jeremy Corbyn “opposes antisemitism”, whilst the mainstream majority of British Jews, and their concerns, are ignored by him and those he leads.
There is a repeated institutional failure to properly address Jewish concerns and to tackle antisemitism, with the Chakrabarti Report being the most glaring example of this.
Jeremy Corbyn did not invent this form of politics, but he has had a lifetime within it, and now personifies its problems and dangers. He issues empty statements about opposing antisemitism, but does nothing to understand or address it. We conclude that he cannot seriously contemplate antisemitism, because he is so ideologically fixed within a far left worldview that is instinctively hostile to mainstream Jewish communities.
When Jews complain about an obviously antisemitic mural in Tower Hamlets, Corbyn of course supports the artist. Hizbollah commits terrorist atrocities against Jews, but Corbyn calls them his friends and attends pro-Hizbollah rallies in London. Exactly the same goes for Hamas. Raed Salah says Jews kill Christian children to drink their blood. Corbyn opposes his extradition and invites him for tea at the House of Commons. These are not the only cases. He is repeatedly found alongside people with blatantly antisemitic views, but claims never to hear or read them.
Again and again, Jeremy Corbyn has sided with antisemites rather than Jews. At best, this derives from the far left’s obsessive hatred of Zionism, Zionists and Israel. At worst, it suggests a conspiratorial worldview in which mainstream Jewish communities are believed to be a hostile entity, a class enemy.
When Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader of the Labour Party, Jews expressed sincere and profound fears as to how such politics would impact upon their wellbeing. Our concerns were never taken seriously. Three years on, the Party and British Jews are reaping the consequences.
Routine statements against antisemitism “and all forms of racism” get nowhere near dealing with the problem, because what distinguishes antisemitism from other forms of racism is the power that Jews are alleged to hold, and how they are charged with conspiring together against what is good.
This is not only historic, or about what Jeremy Corbyn did before being Party leader. It is also utterly contemporary. There is literally not a single day in which Labour Party spaces, either online or in meetings, do not repeat the same fundamental antisemitic slanders against Jews. We are told that our concerns are faked, and done at the command of Israel and/or Zionism (whatever that means); that antisemitism is merely “criticism of Israel”; that we call any and all criticism of Israel “antisemitic”; that the Rothschilds run the world; that ISIS terrorism is a fake front for Israel; that Zionists are the new Nazis; and that Zionists collaborate with Nazis.
Rightly or wrongly, those who push this offensive material regard Jeremy Corbyn as their figurehead. They display an obsessive hatred of Israel alongside conspiracy theories and fake news. These repeated actions do serous harm to British Jews and to the British Labour Party.
Jeremy Corbyn is the only person with the standing to demand that all of this stops. Enough is enough
The board of deputies represent all British Jews. They are not affiliated to any political party. The JLV are a fringe Cirbyn supporting group who don’t even represent a majority of Jewish Labour Members. |
it's almost as if some people think that the board of deputies don't have a legitimate voice. it is interesting how the discussion of labour's anti-semitism problem repeatedly illustrates labour's anti-semitism problem. problem, what problem? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 11:15 - Mar 26 with 4334 views | chicoazul |
This all seems a bit stupid really. The Maximum Leader is anti-capitalism, that's hardly the same as being anti Jews although you can certainly see why his enemies conflate it to be so. He's said sorry so you think that would be enough for everyone. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 11:45 - Mar 26 with 4307 views | Steve_M |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 09:57 - Mar 26 by hype313 |
Never seen so much whatabouterry in one thread. |
It's quite special even by the standards of TWTD political threads. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 12:10 - Mar 26 with 4272 views | vapour_trail |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 08:06 - Mar 26 by GlasgowBlue |
So just to recap.
We have the Board of Deputies acussing the Labour Party of anti semitism and organising a protest today at Parliament Square.
The Campaign Against Anti Semitism also accusing the Labour Party of being a “racist party” and organising a demo for April 8th
The Holocaust Educational Trust blasting Corbyn for his “too late” apology.
Chuka Umunna, a member of he cross party HOC committee that stated “elements of the Labour Party were institutionally anti Semitic”, has come out and said that the way Corbyn has dealt with anti-Semitism "has been shameful”.
And you are trying to get a poster banned. A poster who has been a lifelong member of the Labour Party and is utterly disgusted at the apologists on here for labour’s anti semitism.
Have a look at yourself mate. [Post edited 26 Mar 2018 8:09]
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The recap isn’t really necessary, given I don’t bother reading the majority of the posts on these mega threads that a few of you seem to enjoy filling your time with. They undoubtedly cover interesting territory and at times have illuminating information, but the way you all engage is beyond embarrassing to be honest.
So thank you for the recap and the free but unsolicited advice, but I won’t be dwelling too long on either. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 12:16 - Mar 26 with 4240 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 12:10 - Mar 26 by vapour_trail |
The recap isn’t really necessary, given I don’t bother reading the majority of the posts on these mega threads that a few of you seem to enjoy filling your time with. They undoubtedly cover interesting territory and at times have illuminating information, but the way you all engage is beyond embarrassing to be honest.
So thank you for the recap and the free but unsolicited advice, but I won’t be dwelling too long on either. |
I would "enjoy" it more if we didn't have to debate this subject in 21st century Britain. [Post edited 26 Mar 2018 12:16]
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 12:21 - Mar 26 with 4256 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 08:06 - Mar 26 by GlasgowBlue |
So just to recap.
We have the Board of Deputies acussing the Labour Party of anti semitism and organising a protest today at Parliament Square.
The Campaign Against Anti Semitism also accusing the Labour Party of being a “racist party” and organising a demo for April 8th
The Holocaust Educational Trust blasting Corbyn for his “too late” apology.
Chuka Umunna, a member of he cross party HOC committee that stated “elements of the Labour Party were institutionally anti Semitic”, has come out and said that the way Corbyn has dealt with anti-Semitism "has been shameful”.
And you are trying to get a poster banned. A poster who has been a lifelong member of the Labour Party and is utterly disgusted at the apologists on here for labour’s anti semitism.
Have a look at yourself mate. [Post edited 26 Mar 2018 8:09]
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"Chuka Umunna, a member of he cross party HOC committee that stated “elements of the Labour Party were institutionally anti Semitic."
Is this from the same cross party HOC committee report that stated, "but anti-semitism is no worse in the Labour Party than any other political party"?!?
Funny how you left that bit out. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:06 - Mar 26 with 4180 views | crunchie1978 |
I'm no fan of Jeremy but the headline on sky news labelling him a figure head for anti semitisum has gone way to far. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:10 - Mar 26 with 4165 views | SpruceMoose |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:06 - Mar 26 by crunchie1978 |
I'm no fan of Jeremy but the headline on sky news labelling him a figure head for anti semitisum has gone way to far. |
Doesn't matter. The right wing trolls have completed their mission, which was to link Corbyn to all this in the minds of people who read the headlines and no further.
The nuance of the situation, or the truth for that matter, isn't important. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:16 - Mar 26 with 4154 views | Darth_Koont |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:10 - Mar 26 by SpruceMoose |
Doesn't matter. The right wing trolls have completed their mission, which was to link Corbyn to all this in the minds of people who read the headlines and no further.
The nuance of the situation, or the truth for that matter, isn't important. |
Indeed.
On the plus side, British politics and political debate in the media is looking an utter mess. Maybe we're one step closer to ripping it up and starting again? Or at least if something is salvageable carrying out a more far-reaching reform to get us back on track? |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:21 - Mar 26 with 4120 views | noggin |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:10 - Mar 26 by SpruceMoose |
Doesn't matter. The right wing trolls have completed their mission, which was to link Corbyn to all this in the minds of people who read the headlines and no further.
The nuance of the situation, or the truth for that matter, isn't important. |
British political point scoring really is embarrassing. If only politicians, their supporters and the media, would focus on what is best for the UK. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:23 - Mar 26 with 4112 views | crunchie1978 |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:10 - Mar 26 by SpruceMoose |
Doesn't matter. The right wing trolls have completed their mission, which was to link Corbyn to all this in the minds of people who read the headlines and no further.
The nuance of the situation, or the truth for that matter, isn't important. |
Surely what the press print should be important and should be the truth!
To many agendas pushed by different media outlets depending on which side of the fence you sit.
All pathetic really as I think anyone with half a brain can see through it all. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:24 - Mar 26 with 4102 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:06 - Mar 26 by crunchie1978 |
I'm no fan of Jeremy but the headline on sky news labelling him a figure head for anti semitisum has gone way to far. |
The accusation has come from the Board of Deputies.
https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-figurehead-of-anti-semitic-culture-jewi
The Jewish community have quite rightly had enough of Corbyn and his acolytes turning a blind eye to anti semitisnm within the Labour party.
The number of apologists for it on here demonstrate quite clearly that the problem isn't being taken seriously and for the first time in their history, the British Jewish movement is holding a protest against a major British political party today. | |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:25 - Mar 26 with 4095 views | SpruceMoose |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:23 - Mar 26 by crunchie1978 |
Surely what the press print should be important and should be the truth!
To many agendas pushed by different media outlets depending on which side of the fence you sit.
All pathetic really as I think anyone with half a brain can see through it all. |
You would think so right?
The thing is, the folk pushing this aren't half brained, they're deeply cynical, and the less they have to do with UK politics the better. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:30 - Mar 26 with 4090 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:21 - Mar 26 by noggin |
British political point scoring really is embarrassing. If only politicians, their supporters and the media, would focus on what is best for the UK. |
This, this and thrice this. | |
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| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:35 - Mar 26 with 4077 views | SpruceMoose |
| Oh Jeremy..... on 14:10 - Mar 26 by SpruceMoose |
Doesn't matter. The right wing trolls have completed their mission, which was to link Corbyn to all this in the minds of people who read the headlines and no further.
The nuance of the situation, or the truth for that matter, isn't important. |
Morning Benters! Hope your finger doesn't get too tired today from downvoting all my posts! I wasn't about much this weekend, so hopefully you had a chance to rest up the digits! | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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