| Question on Lambert 14:18 - Feb 13 with 1862 views | MeenoITFC |
Is 'Liking the bloke' enough? What really has he done that has changed here. The signings in January have not strengthened us at all, plays odd line ups (1 up front), and hurst has a better record.
But as I stated I like him as a person as he understands the club. Strange one! |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:23 - Feb 13 with 1818 views | Steve_M |
Oh good, we've not had this one to discuss today yet. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:30 - Feb 13 with 1780 views | Herbivore |
| Question on Lambert on 14:23 - Feb 13 by Steve_M |
Oh good, we've not had this one to discuss today yet. |
It's getting a bit tedious. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:36 - Feb 13 with 1753 views | Harry_Palmer |
To be honest I think this has been done to death already. He inherited a useless squad and although performances have improved he has been unable to get results. Could anybody have done so with this squad? It's highly doubtful.
Most of his January signings have not really worked out but it was always going to be difficult to recruit the quality necessary. He looks like he is going to fail in his primary objective ( ie. keeping us up ) but by anybody's standards he has to be given the summer to rebuild regardless of which division we are in.
Unless Lambert resigns he will be here next season, Evans has already made that clear so I think we need to back him until he has had a real chance to shape his own squad. |  | | |
| Question on Lambert on 14:37 - Feb 13 with 1731 views | footers |
What if you don't like him and think he's hopeless? Our opinions won't get him the sack, so sit back and relax.  |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:40 - Feb 13 with 1711 views | BlueySwede |
Some fans don´t realise just how bad we are (injuries, low confidence, some bad luck doesn´t help). We could have the best manager in the world, pay him billions, but we would still struggle. There are some, small, signs of improvement. I would say there are some nice combinations, we can retain and keep the ball better at times..No, it´s not enough to bring more points on board at the moment, but there are some signs of improvement. Maybe we need to drop down and rebuild, get some confidence in the team and club.
Lambert would need to be Jesus himself to put off a miracle and save us this season. | | | |
| Question on Lambert on 14:42 - Feb 13 with 1695 views | BlueySwede |
| Question on Lambert on 14:40 - Feb 13 by BlueySwede |
Some fans don´t realise just how bad we are (injuries, low confidence, some bad luck doesn´t help). We could have the best manager in the world, pay him billions, but we would still struggle. There are some, small, signs of improvement. I would say there are some nice combinations, we can retain and keep the ball better at times..No, it´s not enough to bring more points on board at the moment, but there are some signs of improvement. Maybe we need to drop down and rebuild, get some confidence in the team and club.
Lambert would need to be Jesus himself to put off a miracle and save us this season. |
Also I would say Judge is a good addition, and (if we can get him fit enough to play) Collins too. | | | |
| Question on Lambert on 14:47 - Feb 13 with 1667 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
You dont think Judge and Collins are an improvement?!
Keane starting to look good. Bree an improvement on Spence.
New signing take time to find their feet. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:50 - Feb 13 with 1652 views | Keaneish |
"The January signings haven't strengthened us at all?" Mmmm...
Alan Judge, James Collins, Will Keane and Colin Quaner have all added different dimensions to the squad. Jury is still out on Bree and Elder. Other than that, Dawkins is the only flop. I'd argue we've done some good business in a very difficult window, actually. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:55 - Feb 13 with 1627 views | Herbivore |
| Question on Lambert on 14:50 - Feb 13 by Keaneish |
"The January signings haven't strengthened us at all?" Mmmm...
Alan Judge, James Collins, Will Keane and Colin Quaner have all added different dimensions to the squad. Jury is still out on Bree and Elder. Other than that, Dawkins is the only flop. I'd argue we've done some good business in a very difficult window, actually. |
I'd say the jury is also very much out on Quaner and Keane. Quaner looks very ordinary, Keane has done okay in patches. Harrison has looked our best centre forward under Lambert imo. | |
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| Question on Lambert on 14:55 - Feb 13 with 1635 views | HarryWright |
The argument about Hursts better record I find misleading, at the start of the season I'm sure the squad started with optimism and confidence, and in that period we picked up a few points. Ever since Lambert took over the squad was already completely shot of confidence due to the form before him. |  | | |
| Question on Lambert on 15:00 - Feb 13 with 1597 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Question on Lambert on 14:55 - Feb 13 by HarryWright |
The argument about Hursts better record I find misleading, at the start of the season I'm sure the squad started with optimism and confidence, and in that period we picked up a few points. Ever since Lambert took over the squad was already completely shot of confidence due to the form before him. |
We achieved more points in Hurst’s last 6 games than we did in the first 6 games under Lambert, or indeed his last 6 games |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 15:02 - Feb 13 with 1587 views | Herbivore |
| Question on Lambert on 15:00 - Feb 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
We achieved more points in Hurst’s last 6 games than we did in the first 6 games under Lambert, or indeed his last 6 games |
That win against Swansea was the definition of a freak result. | |
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| Question on Lambert on 15:02 - Feb 13 with 1583 views | christiand |
| Question on Lambert on 14:36 - Feb 13 by Harry_Palmer |
To be honest I think this has been done to death already. He inherited a useless squad and although performances have improved he has been unable to get results. Could anybody have done so with this squad? It's highly doubtful.
Most of his January signings have not really worked out but it was always going to be difficult to recruit the quality necessary. He looks like he is going to fail in his primary objective ( ie. keeping us up ) but by anybody's standards he has to be given the summer to rebuild regardless of which division we are in.
Unless Lambert resigns he will be here next season, Evans has already made that clear so I think we need to back him until he has had a real chance to shape his own squad. |
Well said Harry Palmer!! 👍 | |
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| Question on Lambert on 15:06 - Feb 13 with 1560 views | homer_123 |
| Question on Lambert on 14:50 - Feb 13 by Keaneish |
"The January signings haven't strengthened us at all?" Mmmm...
Alan Judge, James Collins, Will Keane and Colin Quaner have all added different dimensions to the squad. Jury is still out on Bree and Elder. Other than that, Dawkins is the only flop. I'd argue we've done some good business in a very difficult window, actually. |
They've strengthened the squad. However two very important points:
1. Low base - the squad was decimated by Hurst, so improving it wasn't difficult
2. Zero affect on results - those coming coupled with the approach taken by Lambert hasn't seen any better results.
It's right to say that the football has been better under Lambert, no question. But it's actually not really that much different than under Hurst. In that we play in spells, we have a good 10 or 30 mins of football but can never actually carry that through a full game. Even with Keane and Quaner was are toothless up front, no improvement in goal scoring ability under Lambert. Individual errors continue, whilst that is normal at this level, we continue to be punished for those errors.
I wish Lambert was here in the summer, perfect appointment for us then.
I felt when he was appointed that he wasn't really the right manager to dig us out of the hole we were in. His approach is laudable, he wants us to play football and that's great but when you are fighting for your life trying to stave off relegation - it maybe wasn't the right approach.
I remain unconvinced that we'll walk league 1 or even be in the play-offs. That's not a reflection on Lambert, it's a reality of having the owner we do.
Evans wasn't prepared to fund Mick when we were sitting pretty of the Xmas period a few years back and he's not really gone for giving Lambert the best possible opportunity to stave off relegation either - yes, there has been investment but nowhere near enough.
There is absolutely nothing to indicate he'll do anything than keep the status quo in terms of approach when we go down. So, as good as Lambert is - he'll be in exactly the same situ as Mick - his hands financially will be tied. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 15:22 - Feb 13 with 1495 views | Bluesquid |
| Question on Lambert on 14:36 - Feb 13 by Harry_Palmer |
To be honest I think this has been done to death already. He inherited a useless squad and although performances have improved he has been unable to get results. Could anybody have done so with this squad? It's highly doubtful.
Most of his January signings have not really worked out but it was always going to be difficult to recruit the quality necessary. He looks like he is going to fail in his primary objective ( ie. keeping us up ) but by anybody's standards he has to be given the summer to rebuild regardless of which division we are in.
Unless Lambert resigns he will be here next season, Evans has already made that clear so I think we need to back him until he has had a real chance to shape his own squad. |
Well with all that being said, let's face it (although it might not be Lamberts fault) the only game where the team have really, really battled and fought tooth and nail was the Norwich game.
No one can say that we saw the same fight and spirit in the previous games like that we saw on Sunday and it's a massive shame really because against Villa, Blackburn and Wednesday we could of come away with something.
Anyway, still not over if we can show that same fight and battle like we did against Norwich.
Going for a home win tonight. | | | |
| Question on Lambert on 15:57 - Feb 13 with 1385 views | Harry_Palmer |
| Question on Lambert on 15:22 - Feb 13 by Bluesquid |
Well with all that being said, let's face it (although it might not be Lamberts fault) the only game where the team have really, really battled and fought tooth and nail was the Norwich game.
No one can say that we saw the same fight and spirit in the previous games like that we saw on Sunday and it's a massive shame really because against Villa, Blackburn and Wednesday we could of come away with something.
Anyway, still not over if we can show that same fight and battle like we did against Norwich.
Going for a home win tonight. |
You make a valid point, Sheff Weds was particularly disappointing. I hope to see the same level of fight tonight that we got on Sunday ( without the red card for Lambert! ).
Lambert has been far from perfect, and some criticism has been justified but ultimately he is here to stay for now and I think he needs to be given a summer transfer window and a fair crack at League One before we even think about questioning his position. | | | |
| Question on Lambert on 16:17 - Feb 13 with 1335 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Question on Lambert on 15:02 - Feb 13 by Herbivore |
That win against Swansea was the definition of a freak result. |
All of our wins this season have been freak results | |
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| Question on Lambert on 16:25 - Feb 13 with 1313 views | Radlett_blue |
| Question on Lambert on 16:17 - Feb 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
All of our wins this season have been freak results |
Two scrambled 1-0 home wins against a couple of the 5 poorest sides in this league.
The win at Swansea was a freak, quickly followed by 2 more comprehensive defeats. |  | | |
| Question on Lambert on 16:34 - Feb 13 with 1275 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Question on Lambert on 16:25 - Feb 13 by Radlett_blue |
Two scrambled 1-0 home wins against a couple of the 5 poorest sides in this league.
The win at Swansea was a freak, quickly followed by 2 more comprehensive defeats. |
The win against Wigan was followed up with a draw, then 2 comprehensive defeats and another loss at home to one of the worst teams in the division
The win against Rotherham was followed up by 4 straight defeats and counting
The results are what they are - you can’t just dismiss Hursts win | |
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| Question on Lambert on 17:01 - Feb 13 with 1222 views | Radlett_blue |
| Question on Lambert on 16:34 - Feb 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The win against Wigan was followed up with a draw, then 2 comprehensive defeats and another loss at home to one of the worst teams in the division
The win against Rotherham was followed up by 4 straight defeats and counting
The results are what they are - you can’t just dismiss Hursts win |
I agree. We have been little better under Lambert than Hurst, although Lambert inherited Hurst's mess. After Lambert initially (and sensibly) first tried to go for stability in his team selection, he's now rotating a larger, but no more talented squad.
I think most of us have realistically accepted the inevitability of relegation and hope Lambert can build something from the wreckage after a major clear-out in the summer. | | | |
| Question on Lambert on 18:35 - Feb 13 with 1086 views | BlueBadger |
| Question on Lambert on 16:25 - Feb 13 by Radlett_blue |
Two scrambled 1-0 home wins against a couple of the 5 poorest sides in this league.
The win at Swansea was a freak, quickly followed by 2 more comprehensive defeats. |
In retrospect, the right time to sack Hurst would have been after that game wouldn't it? There'd be some actual (albeit fragile) positivity there to work with. |  |
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| Question on Lambert on 18:55 - Feb 13 with 1038 views | pointofblue |
| Question on Lambert on 18:35 - Feb 13 by BlueBadger |
In retrospect, the right time to sack Hurst would have been after that game wouldn't it? There'd be some actual (albeit fragile) positivity there to work with. |
I seem to remember there were rumours going around at the time that Hurst would be sacked if we lost at Swansea - that result got him a stay of execution though only for two games.
But for all the criticism of Hurst we did at least show signs of resistance under him - we equalised against Blackburn, Villa, Wednesday (before losing after a dodgy red card), Brentford and Swansea (before winning). Number of times we've equalised under Lambert? None. We scored six away goals from seven league matches under Hurst. Under Lambert? Three from eight.
It can be argued that confidence had been shot under Hurst (and we seemed to come back worse from an international break) but he did prove that we had something to work with. I'm not sure whether Lambert has got everything he could out of this squad, whether that's down to motivation or, more likely IMO, tactics. | |
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| Question on Lambert on 19:09 - Feb 13 with 1019 views | BlueBadger |
| Question on Lambert on 18:55 - Feb 13 by pointofblue |
I seem to remember there were rumours going around at the time that Hurst would be sacked if we lost at Swansea - that result got him a stay of execution though only for two games.
But for all the criticism of Hurst we did at least show signs of resistance under him - we equalised against Blackburn, Villa, Wednesday (before losing after a dodgy red card), Brentford and Swansea (before winning). Number of times we've equalised under Lambert? None. We scored six away goals from seven league matches under Hurst. Under Lambert? Three from eight.
It can be argued that confidence had been shot under Hurst (and we seemed to come back worse from an international break) but he did prove that we had something to work with. I'm not sure whether Lambert has got everything he could out of this squad, whether that's down to motivation or, more likely IMO, tactics. |
I suspect it's probably a combination of 'both of these things'. | |
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