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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? 09:37 - Nov 19 with 3795 viewsKeno

and if not who is?

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:06 - Nov 19 with 604 viewshype313

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 13:59 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger

In recent times, Alan Judge.


Alan Judge is turning out to be one of the most underwhelming signings we have made in the past 20 years.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:08 - Nov 19 with 606 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 10:50 - Nov 19 by Garv

Think it stems from him being the best permanent right back since David Wright a decade ago.

But you're probably right, huge reputation based on 9 games.


Am I the only one who felt David Wright was rather a disappointment and is surprised he is cited as a benchmark re right-backs?

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:16 - Nov 19 with 588 viewshype313

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:08 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

Am I the only one who felt David Wright was rather a disappointment and is surprised he is cited as a benchmark re right-backs?

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Only because he is the only designated Right Back any of us can remember in recent history.

But yep, solid, but hardly inspiring.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:16 - Nov 19 with 592 viewsitfcjoe

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:08 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

Am I the only one who felt David Wright was rather a disappointment and is surprised he is cited as a benchmark re right-backs?

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He played a lot at left back and centre back as well - definitely a rose tinted view of him by lots - maybe he is up there as an over rated player?

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:17 - Nov 19 with 585 viewshoppy

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:08 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

Am I the only one who felt David Wright was rather a disappointment and is surprised he is cited as a benchmark re right-backs?

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He was certainly no Phil Ham in terms of full back prowess, by all accounts...

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:20 - Nov 19 with 575 viewsyesjohn99

If not most underrated then definitely laziest.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:40 - Nov 19 with 552 viewsNthQldITFC

Pablo was an excellent footballer, brilliant at holding the ball up and bringing other players into the game, as well as as turning and beating centre backs. With a bit more pace he would have been top level. How so may people can't see that always amazes me. He'd be the absolute ideal central striker for us now.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:58 - Nov 19 with 540 viewsBlueBadger

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:06 - Nov 19 by hype313

Alan Judge is turning out to be one of the most underwhelming signings we have made in the past 20 years.


And there's some stiff competition there.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:02 - Nov 19 with 532 viewshype313

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:58 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger

And there's some stiff competition there.


Yep, At least Priskin gave us the night against the gooners and Lee Martin pinged a few nice balls in, Judge has been a shadow of what he has been.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:05 - Nov 19 with 533 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:17 - Nov 19 by hoppy

He was certainly no Phil Ham in terms of full back prowess, by all accounts...


I probably ought to have started playing left-back sooner than my early forties if I'm getting reviews like that.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:06 - Nov 19 with 532 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:16 - Nov 19 by itfcjoe

He played a lot at left back and centre back as well - definitely a rose tinted view of him by lots - maybe he is up there as an over rated player?


Think a part of the rose-tintedness is because he was released by Roy Keane.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:13 - Nov 19 with 519 viewsjudespiveyg

Aaron Cresswell - he was no Tyrone Mings
Keith Andrews - scored a lot so people forget how immobile he was.
Cristophe Berra - good defender but passing was about the same level as James Wilson's
Cole Skuse - based on the fact people actually rate him.
Alan Judge - people kept going on about him the year we went down and I couldn't really see why.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:16 - Nov 19 with 514 viewsChutney

Please don't swear. Lord Pablo was my hero.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:27 - Nov 19 with 501 viewsMullet

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:05 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

I probably ought to have started playing left-back sooner than my early forties if I'm getting reviews like that.


It was still a fairly new position then to be fair.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:29 - Nov 19 with 498 viewsjudespiveyg

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:06 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

Think a part of the rose-tintedness is because he was released by Roy Keane.


Accidental downvote.

Says a lot that he was beaten to the right back slot by Liam Rosenior, who was the definition of 'okay' for us.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 18:39 - Nov 19 with 469 viewsSuperCoops

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 14:08 - Nov 19 by PhilTWTD

Am I the only one who felt David Wright was rather a disappointment and is surprised he is cited as a benchmark re right-backs?

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I thought he was fairly steady, consistent, versatile and quietly got on with his game without every screaming out as "spectacular".
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:10 - Nov 19 with 432 viewsTractorJack

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:13 - Nov 19 with 428 viewsbrushhand

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:14 - Nov 19 with 427 viewsFunge

Bullard would have to be up there, with the caveat that Act 1 of his time here suggested that the hype was justified.

Act 2, however, was highlighted by him playing Rock Paper Scissors with Cresswell to decide who would take a free kick, and drinking Cognac out of Chopra's bellend in a pub in Newcastle, allegedly.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:43 - Nov 19 with 396 viewsGarv

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:29 - Nov 19 by judespiveyg

Accidental downvote.

Says a lot that he was beaten to the right back slot by Liam Rosenior, who was the definition of 'okay' for us.


Liam Rosenior was good. He was our last good right back full stop, DW was the last good one that was our player.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:49 - Nov 19 with 394 viewsGarv

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 18:39 - Nov 19 by SuperCoops

I thought he was fairly steady, consistent, versatile and quietly got on with his game without every screaming out as "spectacular".


Plus a few goals. Notably one at Carrow Road and the most important goal of Keane's tenure against Derby at home.

I agree he was steady and never spectacular, but that just goes to show how bad we've had it since he left and how odd it was that Keane binned him off.

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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 20:58 - Nov 19 with 387 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 12:38 - Nov 19 by MattinLondon

Pablo is definitely not the most overrated player in ITFC history. If anything some sections undervalue him. It’s unfortunate that the most overrated manager in recent history Joe Royal - was here at the time. A better manager would have got more out of him. And I’m going to say that MM would have managed to do this.

In terms of overhyped - David Norris. So much effort to get him here for average performances.
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Think MM would have sold him at the first possible chance! I'd agree with you that Pablo's not overrated, I think it's more that he didn't fulfil his potential and do more in the game given his ability. A lack of desire and hunger, perhaps. Think there was something in RK's assessment of him. Loved watching him, no striker here since has been as classy.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 21:01 - Nov 19 with 379 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 18:39 - Nov 19 by SuperCoops

I thought he was fairly steady, consistent, versatile and quietly got on with his game without every screaming out as "spectacular".


Yes, did OK, but didn't pull up too many trees and never made the impact KVY did he came in last year or Ward has done this season.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 21:03 - Nov 19 with 378 viewsPhilTWTD

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 15:27 - Nov 19 by Mullet

It was still a fairly new position then to be fair.


Cheeky. I still see myself largely as an inside forward.
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Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 21:10 - Nov 19 with 367 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Inspired by Hype - Is Pablo is the most overrated player in ITFC History? on 09:56 - Nov 19 by itfcjoe

Kane Vincent-Young


Our most overrated player EVER? That’s a bold shout that.



Edit - Ok I’ve now read some more of the thread and see the point you’re making.
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