| My team in his 4231 12:21 - Mar 8 with 5678 views | Bluefish |
Holy
Matheson Chambers Woolfenden Kenlock
Downes Bishop
Lankester Judge Dobra
Norwood
I still have concerns over and isolated Norwood but I would instruct Lankester and Dobra to push central to support |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 14:54 - Mar 8 with 924 views | chrismakin |
| My team in his 4231 on 13:30 - Mar 8 by Parky |
Ignoring KVY for obvious reasons, this is by far our strongest team at the moment with current form. |
Was interesting Parrott was spoken well of and Norwood didnt get a mention. I wonder if Cook as as annoyed as me about Norwoods lack of effort in 2and phases.
I reckon we could see parrott uptop tomorrow. Edward's judge. Jackson behind |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:00 - Mar 8 with 912 views | clive_baker |
| My team in his 4231 on 14:29 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
Bishop/Dozzell is an either/or for me
Edwards in for Dobra, Dobra not a great wide player for me and would need someone behind him who is more of an out and out defender
Otherwise looks about right
I'd like to see Lankester have a bit of a run, his output is pretty good this eason despite being in and out of side and in games where playing CM |
An either / or, and when played they need to be doing their talking in the opposition half or third. That's where they're most dangerous, pulling strings running with the ball in Bishop's case as he did Saturday which led to the goal, and picking those passes in Dozzell's cases, in the channels, splitting the full backs and centre half, finding Norwood etc. They've got no business playing so deep, doesn't suit either of them. Let Downes and Judge do the running and dirty work, harrying and turning over possession, and let Bishop / Dozzell join in with the front 3 creating.
Just need to play to our obvious strengths and not over complicate matters. I think the only real selection headaches are the wide men tbh, there's choice but nobody who has demonstrated a consistent ability to do the harder side of it defensively as well as create. Edwards is perhaps the only exception to that, on balance, over the season. |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:02 - Mar 8 with 917 views | Parky |
| My team in his 4231 on 14:48 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
Both also played in the defeat at the weekend and Bennetts actually missed the first of our 5 game unbeaten run, although playing in that 0-0 draw against Northampton is nothing to write home about.
Parrott has made more appearances than Dobra and hasn't offered all that much from what I've seen. Eight games with no goals or assists for an attacking player isn't a great return.
Bennetts has made more appearances than Lankester and has fewer goals and assists, so I'm not sure why you think he merits persisting with. He flatters to deceive for me.
I fear you're placing a lot of stock in a recent run of decent results where we played okay but not great, and where the players you're lauding actually didn't do all that much to directly contribute to the positive results. We need to get better and I don't think the players you want to stick with are doing all that much to justify their places just now, certainly not enough to just write off our own youngsters being given a chance instead. |
FWIW, I didn’t even say I’d start Bennetts, I said he’s higher in the pecking order than Lankester and Dobra.
In regards to Parrot, it’s not all about goals in my opinion. Might sound a silly comparison, but similar to Firmino at Liverpool, does a lot of work that isn’t always scoring goals.
We do need to be better and that will come from playing your best players, not throwing unproven youngsters in the deep end. But it’s all opinions and it’s Paul Cook’s that matters. |  | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:18 - Mar 8 with 892 views | Herbivore |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:02 - Mar 8 by Parky |
FWIW, I didn’t even say I’d start Bennetts, I said he’s higher in the pecking order than Lankester and Dobra.
In regards to Parrot, it’s not all about goals in my opinion. Might sound a silly comparison, but similar to Firmino at Liverpool, does a lot of work that isn’t always scoring goals.
We do need to be better and that will come from playing your best players, not throwing unproven youngsters in the deep end. But it’s all opinions and it’s Paul Cook’s that matters. |
Why should Bennetts be ahead of either of them? He's made 19 appearances in the league and has scored 1 goal and contributed no assists. To use him in support of a line of argument using terms like "best players" as an excuse for overlooking our youngsters is incredibly flimsy. He's offered very little. I've only seen Parrott a couple of times and he looks neat and tidy enough mostly but he's not really done much. Maybe he's been better in other games but his return has been poor. 8 games and no goals or assists isn't great when you're playing in behind the striker.
It seems to me you're overrating these loanees who haven't contributed very much whilst writing off our own young players who have, in Lankester's case, contributed more. All on the basis of them playing in a short unbeaten run where we didn't actually look very good, aside from the Hull game. |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:20 - Mar 8 with 889 views | Parky |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:18 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
Why should Bennetts be ahead of either of them? He's made 19 appearances in the league and has scored 1 goal and contributed no assists. To use him in support of a line of argument using terms like "best players" as an excuse for overlooking our youngsters is incredibly flimsy. He's offered very little. I've only seen Parrott a couple of times and he looks neat and tidy enough mostly but he's not really done much. Maybe he's been better in other games but his return has been poor. 8 games and no goals or assists isn't great when you're playing in behind the striker.
It seems to me you're overrating these loanees who haven't contributed very much whilst writing off our own young players who have, in Lankester's case, contributed more. All on the basis of them playing in a short unbeaten run where we didn't actually look very good, aside from the Hull game. |
Thanks for sharing your opinion. | | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:25 - Mar 8 with 875 views | 3_5_2 |
Holy
Matheson Chambo Wilson Kenny
Downs Dozzy
Bennetts (teach him to cross) Judge Edwards
Nors sub Jackson on 70 mins
Easy |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:44 - Mar 8 with 853 views | jayessess |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:18 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
Why should Bennetts be ahead of either of them? He's made 19 appearances in the league and has scored 1 goal and contributed no assists. To use him in support of a line of argument using terms like "best players" as an excuse for overlooking our youngsters is incredibly flimsy. He's offered very little. I've only seen Parrott a couple of times and he looks neat and tidy enough mostly but he's not really done much. Maybe he's been better in other games but his return has been poor. 8 games and no goals or assists isn't great when you're playing in behind the striker.
It seems to me you're overrating these loanees who haven't contributed very much whilst writing off our own young players who have, in Lankester's case, contributed more. All on the basis of them playing in a short unbeaten run where we didn't actually look very good, aside from the Hull game. |
Not sure exactly how much weight we should be putting on Lankester passing the ball 2 yards sideways to a team mate who had 35 yards and 3 opposition players between him and the goal back in September.
His last 3 starts yielded 0 shots, 1 chance created, 1 dribble, 0 completed crosses. |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:55 - Mar 8 with 841 views | itfcjoe |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:44 - Mar 8 by jayessess |
Not sure exactly how much weight we should be putting on Lankester passing the ball 2 yards sideways to a team mate who had 35 yards and 3 opposition players between him and the goal back in September.
His last 3 starts yielded 0 shots, 1 chance created, 1 dribble, 0 completed crosses. |
That was playing as a central midfielder, realistically an 8 rather than a 10 opposed to as a winger though.
He hasn't looked that sharp when he has played, but in that Bristol game whilst his assist to Nolan wasn't really something to give credit for, he should have had the assist for the OG which he doesn't get, plus has popped up with a couple of goals.
Our squad is so low scoring, and with so few assists in it - the fact he does seem to have a little x Factor to make things happen shouldn't be overlooked.
El Mizouni being sent out to Grimsby was a mistake for me, he has serious X Factor and could have contributed |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 15:57 - Mar 8 with 838 views | Herbivore |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:44 - Mar 8 by jayessess |
Not sure exactly how much weight we should be putting on Lankester passing the ball 2 yards sideways to a team mate who had 35 yards and 3 opposition players between him and the goal back in September.
His last 3 starts yielded 0 shots, 1 chance created, 1 dribble, 0 completed crosses. |
Don't even really know where to start with this.
Edit - Joe has done most of the heavy lifting for me. [Post edited 8 Mar 2021 15:58]
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:12 - Mar 8 with 810 views | hype313 |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:02 - Mar 8 by Parky |
FWIW, I didn’t even say I’d start Bennetts, I said he’s higher in the pecking order than Lankester and Dobra.
In regards to Parrot, it’s not all about goals in my opinion. Might sound a silly comparison, but similar to Firmino at Liverpool, does a lot of work that isn’t always scoring goals.
We do need to be better and that will come from playing your best players, not throwing unproven youngsters in the deep end. But it’s all opinions and it’s Paul Cook’s that matters. |
I'm at a loss with Bennetts personally, seen nothing from him that warrants a start.
Fly him back to Gladbach. |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:17 - Mar 8 with 799 views | rickw |
| My team in his 4231 on 12:27 - Mar 8 by MattinLondon |
Just out of interest, why Woolfenden? He hadn’t exactly been on top form or even been a 7/10 for most of the season. |
Last season when Woolfenden played with Chambers or Wilson i.e. an experienced partner he was excellent and attracted interest from a Premier League club.
This season he's been used mainly with McGuiness - who's less experienced than him!
My point is, hopefully if Woolfenden is partnered with an oldie, hopefully he'll play at last season's form |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:24 - Mar 8 with 785 views | Bluefish |
| My team in his 4231 on 16:12 - Mar 8 by hype313 |
I'm at a loss with Bennetts personally, seen nothing from him that warrants a start.
Fly him back to Gladbach. |
He has beaten more players than every other winger in our squad combined. Only Teddy has gone past more players than him. Factor in that he is not long back from injury and still learning the game and he is streets ahead of what we have seen fron Edwards or Thomas. I'd rather develop Dobra but Bennetts is our most threatening wide player. The others are tidy at best | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:28 - Mar 8 with 783 views | hype313 |
| My team in his 4231 on 16:24 - Mar 8 by Bluefish |
He has beaten more players than every other winger in our squad combined. Only Teddy has gone past more players than him. Factor in that he is not long back from injury and still learning the game and he is streets ahead of what we have seen fron Edwards or Thomas. I'd rather develop Dobra but Bennetts is our most threatening wide player. The others are tidy at best |
That maybe so, but he's still in my eyes bang average, his end product looks like Milton Jones. | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:30 - Mar 8 with 780 views | Bluefish |
| My team in his 4231 on 16:28 - Mar 8 by hype313 |
That maybe so, but he's still in my eyes bang average, his end product looks like Milton Jones. |
We are in division 3.........hopefully his end product success ratio will improve soon but it is not like anyone else is doing a lot better. I'd rather see a player that might than a tried and tested one that can't | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:31 - Mar 8 with 777 views | jayessess |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:55 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
That was playing as a central midfielder, realistically an 8 rather than a 10 opposed to as a winger though.
He hasn't looked that sharp when he has played, but in that Bristol game whilst his assist to Nolan wasn't really something to give credit for, he should have had the assist for the OG which he doesn't get, plus has popped up with a couple of goals.
Our squad is so low scoring, and with so few assists in it - the fact he does seem to have a little x Factor to make things happen shouldn't be overlooked.
El Mizouni being sent out to Grimsby was a mistake for me, he has serious X Factor and could have contributed |
I've no real objection to him coming in for Bennetts (and him being our player is clearly in his favour). Just saying I don't think it's straightforward that he contributes more.
For contrast, Bennetts' last 3 matches have yielded 4 shots, 4 chances created, 4 dribbles, 2 crosses completed, which is why he's getting starting opportunities. [Post edited 8 Mar 2021 16:32]
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| My team in his 4231 on 16:34 - Mar 8 with 773 views | RopeyAdvice |
Will be interesting to see which players actually take to Paul Cooks coaching and implement and improve as a result. | | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 16:56 - Mar 8 with 760 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| My team in his 4231 on 16:28 - Mar 8 by hype313 |
That maybe so, but he's still in my eyes bang average, his end product looks like Milton Jones. |
Well that is why he is with us, rather then in the Borussia squad right? He is by no means the finished product. But he gets past defenders at ease sometimes, and like others have pointed out, he's only just back from injury. I think we keep him in, and someone like Roberts will probably make a massive difference to his game. |  |
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| My team in his 4231 on 17:00 - Mar 8 with 754 views | chrismakin |
| My team in his 4231 on 15:44 - Mar 8 by jayessess |
Not sure exactly how much weight we should be putting on Lankester passing the ball 2 yards sideways to a team mate who had 35 yards and 3 opposition players between him and the goal back in September.
His last 3 starts yielded 0 shots, 1 chance created, 1 dribble, 0 completed crosses. |
personally think Lankesters injuries has put him back a couple of years, doesn't look anywhere near the threat he did when first on the scene | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 17:09 - Mar 8 with 745 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| My team in his 4231 on 13:38 - Mar 8 by clive_baker |
Depends which Woolfenden and Lankester turn up, as the ones we've seen this season have been dire. Both have just about enough credit in the bank for us to put that down to the previous regime though I would suggest, and give them a fresh start under Cook.
Think I would probably play Judge deeper, alongside Downes. Their industry in there should offer good protection defensively and I would love to see Bishop receiving the ball from them in their half, and dropping the shoulder.
Ultimately the whole system largely depends on those 'wide forwards' and we don't really have anyone you can truly hang your hat on to put the shift in and create. Lankester and Dobra are wildcards, Bennetts is absolutely toss and Sears is probably finished. I would stick Edwards on the left, as he's about the most proven in that role we have. Perhaps one of the younger ones on the other side, but I would be nervous with both. Parrott might be best used out there, he definitely puts a shift in. [Post edited 8 Mar 2021 13:42]
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Edwards on the left!
yes he says thats his best position so why put him on the right?
peterboro played him there |  | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 17:14 - Mar 8 with 741 views | chrismakin |
| My team in his 4231 on 17:09 - Mar 8 by BtreeBlueBlood |
Edwards on the left!
yes he says thats his best position so why put him on the right?
peterboro played him there |
i've never understood this either
usually in a 4-2-3-1, your 2 wide front men are inverted forwards who cut in onto their strong foot, allowing the fullback to overlap, hence why Kenlock and Judge worked well as Judge's roaming gave kenlock space to attack
Bennetts had the same issue saturday, he kept coming forwards, cutting in but chambers no where near, hence we will probably see Matheson
BUT the Edwards thing i've never understood, it's like he's not trusted to play on that side of the pitch, as when he has, he's actually scored most of his goals from it, so its a bit strange he is put on the right quite often | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 17:30 - Mar 8 with 734 views | pointofblue |
Holy
Matheson - Chambers - Wilson - Kenlock
Downes - Bishop
Lankester - Judge - Edwards
Norwood
Subsitutes: Cornell, Ward, Woolfenden, Dozzell, Bennetts, Jackson, Parrott
The wide positions are tough because the available players are so badly out of form. Woolfenden is getting brickbats this season with most overlooking the fact he's been expected to have been the senior centre back with limited experience himself. | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 20:47 - Mar 8 with 704 views | strikalite |
| My team in his 4231 on 17:30 - Mar 8 by pointofblue |
Holy
Matheson - Chambers - Wilson - Kenlock
Downes - Bishop
Lankester - Judge - Edwards
Norwood
Subsitutes: Cornell, Ward, Woolfenden, Dozzell, Bennetts, Jackson, Parrott
The wide positions are tough because the available players are so badly out of form. Woolfenden is getting brickbats this season with most overlooking the fact he's been expected to have been the senior centre back with limited experience himself. |
Just about to post exactly that team but swap Bishop with Huws for a touch more strength..
But yes, well balanced, everyone in their best positions...and gives a few from last few games a rest.. |  | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 12:00 - Mar 9 with 629 views | Stewart27 |
| My team in his 4231 on 13:21 - Mar 8 by floridaboy |
Holy
Matheson, Chambers, Wilson, Kenlock
Downes, Dozzell
Edwards, Parrott, Judge
Norwood |
You’ve got a 9 playing as a 10 and a 10 playing out wide.
Why? | | | |
| My team in his 4231 on 12:01 - Mar 9 with 626 views | Herbivore |
| My team in his 4231 on 20:47 - Mar 8 by strikalite |
Just about to post exactly that team but swap Bishop with Huws for a touch more strength..
But yes, well balanced, everyone in their best positions...and gives a few from last few games a rest.. |
Huws?? | |
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| My team in his 4231 on 12:05 - Mar 9 with 623 views | madmouse1959 |
Makes me chuckle watching all these re-shuffled teams being suggested. |  |
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