| Has the Nightingale been covered? 15:17 - Dec 24 with 2008 views | catch74 |
Apologies if I missed it but this seems weird.
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 16:03 - Dec 24 with 1582 views | jeera |
Strange indeed.
Is the assumption here that its services have been removed prematurely?
Wouldn't it have made more sense to keep it stocked for now until the future was more certain? [Post edited 24 Dec 2020 19:04]
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 16:50 - Dec 24 with 1497 views | catch74 |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 16:03 - Dec 24 by jeera |
Strange indeed.
Is the assumption here that its services have been removed prematurely?
Wouldn't it have made more sense to keep it stocked for now until the future was more certain? [Post edited 24 Dec 2020 19:04]
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Yes, you assume the decision was quietly made before the new strain, so definitely feels premature.
Shame after how moved Hancock was when it opened - wiping away those tears again.
https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-matt-hancock-celebrates-at-nhs-nightingal | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:19 - Dec 24 with 1406 views | Ryorry |
Page has disappeared - mysteriouser and mysteriouser! |  |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:59 - Dec 24 with 1373 views | ElderGrizzly |
Consider who is raising the issue and what their angle is. Tice is less trustworthy than Farage and Johnson combined.
The Nightingales require staff from other NHS hospitals. We don’t have any spare. |  | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:59 - Dec 24 with 1374 views | DublinBlue84 |
The whole Nightingale thing was overblown anyway
It was operated using resources which were taken from other hospitals elsewhere in the country that were less under pressure, rather than entirely new capacity. |  |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 18:04 - Dec 24 with 1358 views | jeera |
Yes he does like his public show of emotion doesn't he?
I'm sure it's all very real though and not at all forced. [Post edited 24 Dec 2020 18:27]
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:02 - Dec 24 with 1273 views | jontysnut |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:59 - Dec 24 by DublinBlue84 |
The whole Nightingale thing was overblown anyway
It was operated using resources which were taken from other hospitals elsewhere in the country that were less under pressure, rather than entirely new capacity. |
Yes there are no staff. The NHS was understaffed before covid. In the first wave the NHS more or less stopped everything else. This time they're trying to keep services running. And it's winter. If only Tice and his ilk hadn't made lots of EU nurses go home. Cretin. |  | | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:08 - Dec 24 with 1254 views | jeera |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:59 - Dec 24 by DublinBlue84 |
The whole Nightingale thing was overblown anyway
It was operated using resources which were taken from other hospitals elsewhere in the country that were less under pressure, rather than entirely new capacity. |
I must admit I hadn't really considered that, but it makes sense when you spell it out.
The equipment didn't magically appear from thin air as you say.
I was sold on the concept of keeping patients with Covid away from the main hospitals though, especially if the treatment was relatively generical. | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:09 - Dec 24 with 1247 views | jeera |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:02 - Dec 24 by jontysnut |
Yes there are no staff. The NHS was understaffed before covid. In the first wave the NHS more or less stopped everything else. This time they're trying to keep services running. And it's winter. If only Tice and his ilk hadn't made lots of EU nurses go home. Cretin. |
Again, I hadn't realised who that was but it's making sense now.
He sounds like a real tw@t. [Post edited 24 Dec 2020 19:09]
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:27 - Dec 24 with 1209 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 17:59 - Dec 24 by DublinBlue84 |
The whole Nightingale thing was overblown anyway
It was operated using resources which were taken from other hospitals elsewhere in the country that were less under pressure, rather than entirely new capacity. |
I thought the army medical corps was being drafted in. Or perhaps it was just the army helping to build them. |  |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:47 - Dec 24 with 1179 views | jeera |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:27 - Dec 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I thought the army medical corps was being drafted in. Or perhaps it was just the army helping to build them. |
And there's also the thousands of retirees who supposedly on standby? | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 21:06 - Dec 24 with 1080 views | Eireannach_gorm |
Help is at hand.
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:01 - Dec 24 with 993 views | BlueBadger |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 19:47 - Dec 24 by jeera |
And there's also the thousands of retirees who supposedly on standby? |
The NHS retirees on standby was essentially a PR exercise and nothing else. An awful lot of NHS retirees are simply too worn out, in generally poor health or spent their final years in the NHS away from the cutting edge to be safely deployable.
Plus, the whole 'let's invite a load of over 60's to work with a virus that kills the over-60's' thing was never going to be a great sell in recruiting. |  |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:24 - Dec 24 with 970 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:01 - Dec 24 by BlueBadger |
The NHS retirees on standby was essentially a PR exercise and nothing else. An awful lot of NHS retirees are simply too worn out, in generally poor health or spent their final years in the NHS away from the cutting edge to be safely deployable.
Plus, the whole 'let's invite a load of over 60's to work with a virus that kills the over-60's' thing was never going to be a great sell in recruiting. |
Can see your point on that badger , but surely if the nightingale hospitals have been built for Covid purposes , then they should be used for that purpose and keep normal hospitals open for dare I say it but normal cases | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:28 - Dec 24 with 962 views | BlueBadger |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:24 - Dec 24 by pistonbroke |
Can see your point on that badger , but surely if the nightingale hospitals have been built for Covid purposes , then they should be used for that purpose and keep normal hospitals open for dare I say it but normal cases |
But we can't staff them. | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:34 - Dec 24 with 950 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:28 - Dec 24 by BlueBadger |
But we can't staff them. |
Fair comment , so it’s the useless government not recruiting enough qualified people , don’t get me wrong I feel for you lot , doing the best you can but being restricted , must be bloody frustrating knowing with better resources then you could save more lives | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:37 - Dec 24 with 942 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:34 - Dec 24 by pistonbroke |
Fair comment , so it’s the useless government not recruiting enough qualified people , don’t get me wrong I feel for you lot , doing the best you can but being restricted , must be bloody frustrating knowing with better resources then you could save more lives |
But why waste money on saving lives when it can be better spent on a high speed railway between London and Birmingham | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:40 - Dec 24 with 937 views | jeera |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:28 - Dec 24 by BlueBadger |
But we can't staff them. |
What we need is to join some alliance where we could tap into a ready made workforce...
I'm being facetious of course and I have no idea how other nations are fairing regarding staff numbers themselves.
However, if we were intending to move away from such opportunities, then it may have been wise to offer incentives to at least get trained up more of our own to fill the gaps that have been exposed. | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:44 - Dec 24 with 924 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:40 - Dec 24 by jeera |
What we need is to join some alliance where we could tap into a ready made workforce...
I'm being facetious of course and I have no idea how other nations are fairing regarding staff numbers themselves.
However, if we were intending to move away from such opportunities, then it may have been wise to offer incentives to at least get trained up more of our own to fill the gaps that have been exposed. |
Thousands of unemployed jeera , pay them a proper wage give them decent money during training then there would be no shortage | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:45 - Dec 24 with 924 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:40 - Dec 24 by jeera |
What we need is to join some alliance where we could tap into a ready made workforce...
I'm being facetious of course and I have no idea how other nations are fairing regarding staff numbers themselves.
However, if we were intending to move away from such opportunities, then it may have been wise to offer incentives to at least get trained up more of our own to fill the gaps that have been exposed. |
We had 55,000 Nurse and Doctor vacancies before Brexit and Covid.
The Govt is solely to blame | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:47 - Dec 24 with 909 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:45 - Dec 24 by ElderGrizzly |
We had 55,000 Nurse and Doctor vacancies before Brexit and Covid.
The Govt is solely to blame |
Pay them what they deserve | | | |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:52 - Dec 24 with 898 views | jeera |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:47 - Dec 24 by pistonbroke |
Pay them what they deserve |
We've had 4 and a half years since the referendum, with lots of talk of replacements and yet we are still horribly understaffed. | |
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| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:58 - Dec 24 with 891 views | pistonbroke |
| Has the Nightingale been covered? on 23:52 - Dec 24 by jeera |
We've had 4 and a half years since the referendum, with lots of talk of replacements and yet we are still horribly understaffed. |
Totally agree , the ammount of unemployed in this country , yet we are crying out for qualified medical personnel , pay them a proper wage , pay them a decent wage whilst they are qualifying and you’d have enough recruits , the n h s are underpaid , and I don’t work for them pay people that save lives properly | | | |
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