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They are only considering suing Hawkeye according to reports.
So if it had given that Sheffield United goal then maybe Villa go on to draw anyway. Why assume they lose with 50 mins left when they’d then need to score.
That didn’t relegate Bournemouth. That was Bournemouth and in part Villa taking 7 points from their last 9.
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 13:48 - Jul 28 by kizaitfc
They have no chance in winning this case.
Villa might argue that the penalty against United for Fernandes stamping on Konsa should be looked at aswell.
It was a ridiculously bad decision against Sheff united but mistakes are part of football and will continue to happen no matter how much technology we bring in.
Dean Smith’s already argued they had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Palace.
There is a regulation stating that matches cannot be voided due to a technological error so can’t see any appeal working. If it did, teams would just go through every mistake and nit pick.
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:15 - Jul 28 by pointofblue
Dean Smith’s already argued they had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Palace.
There is a regulation stating that matches cannot be voided due to a technological error so can’t see any appeal working. If it did, teams would just go through every mistake and nit pick.
Massive difference between run of the mill bad decisions, and the one in question. Which is the most extraordianary I think I have ever seen- and which clearly could and should have been (1) given correctly by Linesman; (2) given correctly by ref; (3) corrected by Hawkeye; (4) in the event of failure of all 3- readily seen by VAR which checks all goals etc anyway and must have seen the issue.
But I agree- one of hte many difficulties is that you unpick one, then you might have to unpick another. I would put money on Bournemouth not suing anyone...
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:12 - Jul 28 by sparks
Such a poor argument. They were good enough, just, if a clearly inexcusable error was not made.
Thats life- and you have to deal with it, but to say otherwise makes no sense.
It's a watertight argument. Mistakes are made in football, all the time; the fact that this one was automated is, frankly, of no consequence. The goal is allowed for Sheff Utd, and then what? Villa rally, and score 4 in 10 minutes? Chris Wilder punches John Terry?
You can't suggest that a poor decision negates the subsequent outcome - Bournemouth clearly weren't good enough this season. Any other suggestion is pure supposition; all of the PL teams were aware of the presence of VAR this season; all of them agreed to abide by the decisions made by VAR (of which many have been questionable); all of them have finished where they've finished.
To be blunt - Bournemouth need to stop fcking whinging, and get on with it. How can a team have less class than the budgies?
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Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:34 - Jul 28 with 2765 views
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:32 - Jul 28 by Funge
It's a watertight argument. Mistakes are made in football, all the time; the fact that this one was automated is, frankly, of no consequence. The goal is allowed for Sheff Utd, and then what? Villa rally, and score 4 in 10 minutes? Chris Wilder punches John Terry?
You can't suggest that a poor decision negates the subsequent outcome - Bournemouth clearly weren't good enough this season. Any other suggestion is pure supposition; all of the PL teams were aware of the presence of VAR this season; all of them agreed to abide by the decisions made by VAR (of which many have been questionable); all of them have finished where they've finished.
To be blunt - Bournemouth need to stop fcking whinging, and get on with it. How can a team have less class than the budgies?
Its not watertight- its utterly illogical.
As to your last sentence, can you direct me to where they have been "whinging"?
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:12 - Jul 28 by sparks
Such a poor argument. They were good enough, just, if a clearly inexcusable error was not made.
Thats life- and you have to deal with it, but to say otherwise makes no sense.
If the goal had stood and Villa needed 2 points to stay up would they not have gone out against WestHam to attack from the start.
The table 38 games you get the position you deserve at the end of it, Bournemouth won, drew and lost x amounts of games and therefore finished it 18th place done!
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 13:38 - Jul 28 by sparks
They are not though, are they? They are taking advice. And having talks with the PL- which is perhaps understandable given such a uniquely and inexcusably clear error.
It is ridiculous. Teams have suffered wrong decisions throughout history, the technology is supposed to help but it is not infallible and there will always be wrong decisions. For this to make any sense you'd need to examine the impact of every potentially incorrect decision made in the premier league.
Even considering the idea is nuts and simply confirms their status as this century's top shlthousers.
I know you have a soft spot for them, but surely you can see the madness in this.
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 13:38 - Jul 28 by sparks
They are not though, are they? They are taking advice. And having talks with the PL- which is perhaps understandable given such a uniquely and inexcusably clear error.
They are due to discuss it at a Board meeting, at which point their lawyers will advise them that it’s a complete waste of time and that they don’t have a cat in hells chance of winning.
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:54 - Jul 28 by GeoffSentence
It is ridiculous. Teams have suffered wrong decisions throughout history, the technology is supposed to help but it is not infallible and there will always be wrong decisions. For this to make any sense you'd need to examine the impact of every potentially incorrect decision made in the premier league.
Even considering the idea is nuts and simply confirms their status as this century's top shlthousers.
I know you have a soft spot for them, but surely you can see the madness in this.
Do you have some actual evidence that they are actively thinking about suing?
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 16:28 - Jul 28 by footers
I guess the press compliance/legal departments are pretty confident in the claim, otherwise they wouldn't have published it.
Course they would. Can't libel a club as a whole, especially with such vague assertions as "according to reports". And the only reports I have seen say they are discussing with their lawyers and the PL- which is a hell of a long way from sueing anyone.
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The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 16:39 - Jul 28 by sparks
Which is plainly absurd in the circumstances.
But that is tough? Everybody at clubs are outlined at what VAR do prior to the season, the VAR official will only get involved in what they have been instructed to do.
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:12 - Jul 28 by sparks
Such a poor argument. They were good enough, just, if a clearly inexcusable error was not made.
Thats life- and you have to deal with it, but to say otherwise makes no sense.
What are you prattling on about.
How do you know Villa don’t win that game 3-1?
It would have been a goal in the 43rd minute or something. For someone that seems to want to establish facts, the fact is that there is no guarantee Villa wouldn’t have got the draw they needed anyway to mean Bournemouth still went down.
You’re acting like that decision was in the 97th minute on the last day, the only way we can say it almost certainly did change the relegation positions. Even then the other team could score!
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 16:45 - Jul 28 by WarkTheWarkITFC
What are you prattling on about.
How do you know Villa don’t win that game 3-1?
It would have been a goal in the 43rd minute or something. For someone that seems to want to establish facts, the fact is that there is no guarantee Villa wouldn’t have got the draw they needed anyway to mean Bournemouth still went down.
You’re acting like that decision was in the 97th minute on the last day, the only way we can say it almost certainly did change the relegation positions. Even then the other team could score!
You dont know anything for certain- but its still a rotten argument.
Its like saying the ball crossed the line for your team 3 times in a game, none were given a goals (in error) but the team lost because they weren't good enough. Its nonsense- those chalked off goals were clearly a significant and probably overriding operative factor in the defeat.
Where a relegation is concerned, there are lots of operative factors- but to claim that one factor should be excluded as being significant, because other factors exist, is fallacious.
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett)
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 13:38 - Jul 28 by sparks
They are not though, are they? They are taking advice. And having talks with the PL- which is perhaps understandable given such a uniquely and inexcusably clear error.
Poppycock.
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Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 17:34 - Jul 28 with 2486 views
Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 14:34 - Jul 28 by sparks
Its not watertight- its utterly illogical.
As to your last sentence, can you direct me to where they have been "whinging"?
Well, in the event that the PL fancy a meta-argument on the concept of logic, perhaps they will ask you to come and mediate between them and Bournemouth.
The concept of 'whinging' is implicit on Bournemouth's part in this instance, as you are well aware.
Watford could doubtless point to numerous decisions that failed to go their way this year, resulting in their relegation - but they haven't. THey acknowledge that when all is said and done, they weren't quite good enough. Fair enough, right?
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Oh **** off Bournemouth. on 17:42 - Jul 28 with 2469 views
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