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Wes Burns been on the drink? 20:02 - Sep 15 with 4479 viewsgazzer1999

We can still win the league, good one you been listening to comical cookie?
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 18:24 - Sep 16 with 769 viewstractorboy1978

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 14:56 - Sep 16 by ElderGrizzly

It's pretty much unachievable



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It's hardly unachievable is it. We need to win 27/28 of our remaining 40 games with a few more draws to be there or thereabouts. That's what good teams do. We are only 6 games in.
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 19:57 - Sep 16 with 738 viewsskankerman

I am with Burns
I think we will win the league certainly top 2
First season I have been so positive in many a year
ITFC
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 20:37 - Sep 16 with 724 viewsHARRY10

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 18:24 - Sep 16 by tractorboy1978

It's hardly unachievable is it. We need to win 27/28 of our remaining 40 games with a few more draws to be there or thereabouts. That's what good teams do. We are only 6 games in.


or, we cannot afford to lose more than 6 or so of our remaining 40 games

and put like that when set against him losing 10 games out of 24 it is not about being unachievable, it is a case of it being highly improbable
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 21:02 - Sep 16 with 717 viewsElderGrizzly

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 18:24 - Sep 16 by tractorboy1978

It's hardly unachievable is it. We need to win 27/28 of our remaining 40 games with a few more draws to be there or thereabouts. That's what good teams do. We are only 6 games in.


Why I said "pretty much" before it.

We haven't won in 6 league games. It takes a hell of a turn around to get anywhere near the type of ppg required and we've shown no intent of doing so yet.

I'd be thrilled if we do, but playoffs are the realistic target now.
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 22:45 - Sep 16 with 691 viewstractorboy1978

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 20:37 - Sep 16 by HARRY10

or, we cannot afford to lose more than 6 or so of our remaining 40 games

and put like that when set against him losing 10 games out of 24 it is not about being unachievable, it is a case of it being highly improbable


It's not much more unachievable in the scheme of things than it was before a ball was kicked. We need to win 27 out of 40 rather than 27 out of 46 which is 68% of games rather than 59% of games. We've started poorly no doubt and we need to win games imminently but there is no reason this squad cannot go on a couple of 10 game unbeaten runs - far worse teams have done so in recent years.
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 23:08 - Sep 16 with 681 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 23:21 - Sep 15 by BlueBadger

At this point in the season, last season's team were unbeaten in the league.

Season before last, they'd go another half dozen(at least) before getting beaten.

They were on an unbeaten run when Cook came in.

All last season's team(and the one before) needed was some basic coaching, organisation and motivation and fine tuning. They didn't get it.

You supported the incompetent who didn't coach, motivate or organise them, you're doing the same now.

We still have decent players who are crying out for proper coaching and organisation and you're yet again, joining the Cult of the Incompetent.
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'All last season's team(and the one before) needed was some basic coaching, organisation and motivation and fine tuning. They didn't get it.'

Oh yeah those poor souls didn't get a basic coaching. Cook wasn't good for them. Neither was Lambert nor Hurst. That's the THREE MANAGERS ! It's all those three managers fault while players were fine weren't they?

And you still keep slobbering over those perennial failures who had given up on fighting relegation.
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 01:02 - Sep 17 with 645 viewsHighgateBlue

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 19:57 - Sep 16 by skankerman

I am with Burns
I think we will win the league certainly top 2
First season I have been so positive in many a year
ITFC


Certainly top 2?

Oh dear...
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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 08:49 - Sep 17 with 618 viewsBiGDonnie

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 20:39 - Sep 15 by Garv

If your aim is to finish 1st or 2nd and you're saying it's not possible with 6 games gone, I think that is throwing in the towel.

And did last season's team ever look capable of going on a run or being generally being successful, whether with Lambert or Cook? I think any manager would have struggled.


Gill didn't.

COYBs
Poll: Is it too soon to sack Hurst?

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Wes Burns been on the drink? on 09:05 - Sep 17 with 611 viewspatrickswell

Wes Burns been on the drink? on 11:46 - Sep 16 by tractorshark

I don't think you can write off the season and I don't think sacking Cook right now is the sensible thing to do.
While it may not be very likely that we will win the league, it is still possible - as are the playoffs. And Cook hasn't had a chance to get all of his squad on the pitch yet.
I was angry last Saturday like most and I remain as unconvinced by Cook as I was when we appointed him. But I will concede his track record is good and I fear sacking him now would just create another period of uncertainty that would definitely write off our season.
The problem some of our fanbase struggle with is the blame culture of modern football.
At Ipswich we go in a constant cycle of the manager isn't good enough, the ownership isn't good enough, the players aren't good enough and then we go round again.
Most people wanted Paul Cook based on watching his Pompey side turn us over in the Cup. That isn't enough to guarantee he will succeed at Ipswich. Pretty much every managerial appointment has an element of doubt about it.
But as a club, we need to find some stability and stick with a project that will take us forward. Otherwise we will just lurch from crisis to crisis.
Cook may well not be the man to lead us, I don't blame him for individual mistakes but I do think we look tactically naive and his man-management and overall record at Ipswich is extremely questionable.
Having said that, I will stick with him for now rather than call for the next manager who just happened to have a decent result against us.
If Cook is as good as people originally believed and if the squad is as good as people say (and both of those are ifs), then we will turn this around.


Just following your point on the fans blame culture derailing projects, the issue often seems to be that new projects are introduced and the starts are not just poor, but often among the worse in our history.
Keane’s first season didn’t see a victory in the league until Halloween and neither did that lead to a sustained run, we were still in the bottom 3 by February.
Jewell in his last season, got a win in the second league game of the season, but the club didn’t register another league win till November 3.
Hurst went 13 games before getting a win and that seemed to piss everyone off enough to produce those dreadful performances/results against QPR & Leeds.
Lambert’s teams had strong starts but once October/November rolled around wins became like motorway service stations - something you’d encounter after miles and miles of dull driving.
Then the team hit a little bit of form to get to 1 point off the play-offs and here comes the outstanding League 1/2 manager of the last half decade to take us into the last 16 games. But what do we see? Mutual loathing virtually at first sight.
And now the new era, a lot of new players, new vision and energy in the boardroom and yet on the pitch, in all competitions, we’re winless in 8 games and leaking like a sieve.

No wonder fans get panicky or restless - they are given nothing to hang their hats on. Take out the McCarthy years and this has to be the longest consistent period of managerial/player incompetence in Ipswich Town’s history.
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