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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? 15:58 - May 23 with 9418 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/16/pentagon-ufos-leaked-photos-uap

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:49 - May 23 with 2180 viewsXYZ

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:39 - May 23 by StokieBlue

I'm honestly not sure they do in many cases.

For instance, it's well known that presidents don't have a high enough clearance to know what goes on in many black projects because they are transient.

As you say, it's also highly likely they would lie.

It's also possible they have no clue what they are. I don't think any other nation would be able to build them though given the sheer expenditure in black projects in the US versus the rest of the world.

SB


Jon Ronson's book, "the Men who stare at goats" illustrates a good example of who doesn't know what in the US military.
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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 21:01 - May 23 with 2161 viewsHerbivore

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 19:52 - May 23 by PhilTWTD

And more importantly, when are Town going to make their first extraterrestrial signing?


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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:36 - May 23 with 2117 viewsStokieBlue

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:44 - May 23 by 26_Paz

They could well have seeded us hundreds of thousands of years ago. Maybe they have a purpose for us, maybe we are just some kind of experiment, maybe they are just curious. Who knows.


The evidence is very much against that though, everything on Earth evolved from a central organism long ago, we know this from DNA tracing.

The problem with watching too much Ancient Aliens is that when it's not a TV show the burden of proof is on the one making the claims, not the other way around.

SB

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:42 - May 23 with 2111 viewsfooters

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:36 - May 23 by StokieBlue

The evidence is very much against that though, everything on Earth evolved from a central organism long ago, we know this from DNA tracing.

The problem with watching too much Ancient Aliens is that when it's not a TV show the burden of proof is on the one making the claims, not the other way around.

SB


That's all as maybe, but how do we know you're not an ancient alien yourself?

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:44 - May 23 with 2107 viewsSpruceMoose

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:42 - May 23 by footers

That's all as maybe, but how do we know you're not an ancient alien yourself?


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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 06:33 - May 24 with 2042 viewsDanTheMan

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:44 - May 23 by 26_Paz

They could well have seeded us hundreds of thousands of years ago. Maybe they have a purpose for us, maybe we are just some kind of experiment, maybe they are just curious. Who knows.


That makes little sense, given how similar we are to other life forms on this planet and as Stokie points out, doesn't follow the DNA and evolutionary tracing we have.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:05 - May 24 with 2027 views26_Paz

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:36 - May 23 by StokieBlue

The evidence is very much against that though, everything on Earth evolved from a central organism long ago, we know this from DNA tracing.

The problem with watching too much Ancient Aliens is that when it's not a TV show the burden of proof is on the one making the claims, not the other way around.

SB


That’s as maybe; however ... humans made a huge leap a few thousand years ago, relatively no time in planetary terms ... I’m not sure what the explanation is for that ...

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:22 - May 24 with 2021 viewsfooters

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:05 - May 24 by 26_Paz

That’s as maybe; however ... humans made a huge leap a few thousand years ago, relatively no time in planetary terms ... I’m not sure what the explanation is for that ...


Well, some of us did at least.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:23 - May 24 with 2005 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 19:25 - May 23 by StokieBlue

These are videos taken by highly advanced cameras mounted under the wings of US military fighter jets so the context is very different to those examples.

That still doesn't mean they aren't the US military, the parts on the machine don't speak to each other and there is 40bn a year disappearing into black projects every year for 50 years. It must have been spent on something.

SB


Someone needs to stop shaking that tree!

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:30 - May 24 with 1997 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:39 - May 23 by StokieBlue

I'm honestly not sure they do in many cases.

For instance, it's well known that presidents don't have a high enough clearance to know what goes on in many black projects because they are transient.

As you say, it's also highly likely they would lie.

It's also possible they have no clue what they are. I don't think any other nation would be able to build them though given the sheer expenditure in black projects in the US versus the rest of the world.

SB


Deep State conspiracy nonsense....thought better of you Stokie!


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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:50 - May 24 with 2000 viewsDanTheMan

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:05 - May 24 by 26_Paz

That’s as maybe; however ... humans made a huge leap a few thousand years ago, relatively no time in planetary terms ... I’m not sure what the explanation is for that ...


We didn't really, from an evolutionary perspective.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:54 - May 24 with 1996 viewsStokieBlue

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:05 - May 24 by 26_Paz

That’s as maybe; however ... humans made a huge leap a few thousand years ago, relatively no time in planetary terms ... I’m not sure what the explanation is for that ...


You need to be more specific, do you mean physiologically or technologically?

They are only unexplainable if one doesn't want them to be explained.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:09 - May 24 with 1984 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 19:46 - May 23 by XYZ

It's not "all guesswork". There are universal laws of physics (ask Prof. Brian Cox!) - if you're asking for those to be set aside whilst you're fantacising, then you can't ask to be taken too seriously.


What?! Yes i know there are universal laws of physics, and I'm an avid fan of Prof. Brian Cox.

I was responding to positivity who said, "it'd be unlikely that an advanced civilisation would survive long enough to be around when another advanced civilisation is simultaneously extant." THAT I was saying, is guesswork... and positivity agreed with me.

So where exactly have I set aside the universal laws of physics?

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:13 - May 24 with 1984 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 20:44 - May 23 by 26_Paz

They could well have seeded us hundreds of thousands of years ago. Maybe they have a purpose for us, maybe we are just some kind of experiment, maybe they are just curious. Who knows.


Not sure why you've got 3 down arrows for this, so I've corrected one of them. It's merely idle speculation so doesn't really deserve a down arrow OR an up arrow!

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:16 - May 24 with 1983 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 22:36 - May 23 by StokieBlue

The evidence is very much against that though, everything on Earth evolved from a central organism long ago, we know this from DNA tracing.

The problem with watching too much Ancient Aliens is that when it's not a TV show the burden of proof is on the one making the claims, not the other way around.

SB


Blimey, Stokers, allow your mind to fantasise! He's not claimed these as facts, he's just speculating. Who's to say the central organism wasn't placed here by aliens (that is, after all, very much like a seed!)

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:21 - May 24 with 1980 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 06:33 - May 24 by DanTheMan

That makes little sense, given how similar we are to other life forms on this planet and as Stokie points out, doesn't follow the DNA and evolutionary tracing we have.


See my reply to Stokers. Of course it makes sense. It's perfectly possible that life was started on a dead planet and it then evolved (or was even designed to evolve).

For the hard of thinking, I'm not saying this is true.
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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:21 - May 24 with 1980 viewsbournemouthblue

The answer is almost certainly no but it would be peak 2021 if something like this did come out

The UK actually released something in the National Archives which seems to have disappeared again, I know the Rendlesham airman reckon it mentions Rendlesham directly but is one of the redacted pieces

https://web.archive.org/web/20110903172407/ http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FreedomOfInformation/PublicationScheme/SearchP
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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:29 - May 24 with 1974 viewsDanTheMan

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:09 - May 24 by The_Flashing_Smile

What?! Yes i know there are universal laws of physics, and I'm an avid fan of Prof. Brian Cox.

I was responding to positivity who said, "it'd be unlikely that an advanced civilisation would survive long enough to be around when another advanced civilisation is simultaneously extant." THAT I was saying, is guesswork... and positivity agreed with me.

So where exactly have I set aside the universal laws of physics?


I think the main one here would be that would need to travel multiple light years (at the bare minimum) just to get here.

As you start approaching the speed of light, the amount of energy you'd need to expend would be enormous. It would really only be worth it if the aliens were "close" to us.

The chances of there being two advanced civilisations being close enough to each other is fairly small.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:32 - May 24 with 1971 viewsDanTheMan

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:21 - May 24 by The_Flashing_Smile

See my reply to Stokers. Of course it makes sense. It's perfectly possible that life was started on a dead planet and it then evolved (or was even designed to evolve).

For the hard of thinking, I'm not saying this is true.
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They started off with single cell organisms for a few billion years, orchestrated multiple mass extinction events just to end up with us? No, sorry to me that does not make sense.

I don't disagree that we could have been "seeded" by something though, to be clear. I disagree that it was done by design though, just because there is no evidence for that.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:33 - May 24 with 1966 views26_Paz

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 07:54 - May 24 by StokieBlue

You need to be more specific, do you mean physiologically or technologically?

They are only unexplainable if one doesn't want them to be explained.

SB


Certainly technologically ... possibly physiologically as well when you think it

The Paz Man

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:43 - May 24 with 1954 viewsbournemouthblue

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:29 - May 24 by DanTheMan

I think the main one here would be that would need to travel multiple light years (at the bare minimum) just to get here.

As you start approaching the speed of light, the amount of energy you'd need to expend would be enormous. It would really only be worth it if the aliens were "close" to us.

The chances of there being two advanced civilisations being close enough to each other is fairly small.


That's where wormholes come in but the sheer level of energy and understanding of physics to be able to manipulate one, is a long way ahead of our time

Essentially you need a TARDIS, for interstellar travel to be convenient

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:45 - May 24 with 1953 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:29 - May 24 by DanTheMan

I think the main one here would be that would need to travel multiple light years (at the bare minimum) just to get here.

As you start approaching the speed of light, the amount of energy you'd need to expend would be enormous. It would really only be worth it if the aliens were "close" to us.

The chances of there being two advanced civilisations being close enough to each other is fairly small.


I'm amazed at the lack of imagination by some of you on here!

Technology a million years in the future could negate all this without breaking any universal laws. Or the universal laws aren't complete yet. For argument's sake, being able to bend space/time would mean you don't have to travel millions of light years directly. Or nipping into a parallel universe and then out again (i.e. a wormhole). Or there could be something we can't even envisage yet. You're getting dangerously close to a space-travel version of "Everything that can be invented has been invented"!

Regardless, what I was saying was guesswork is that a civilisation would probably die out before it got too advanced.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:50 - May 24 with 1946 viewsDanTheMan

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:45 - May 24 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'm amazed at the lack of imagination by some of you on here!

Technology a million years in the future could negate all this without breaking any universal laws. Or the universal laws aren't complete yet. For argument's sake, being able to bend space/time would mean you don't have to travel millions of light years directly. Or nipping into a parallel universe and then out again (i.e. a wormhole). Or there could be something we can't even envisage yet. You're getting dangerously close to a space-travel version of "Everything that can be invented has been invented"!

Regardless, what I was saying was guesswork is that a civilisation would probably die out before it got too advanced.


OK I don't really understand the point of responding.

The aliens are all magicians who have do a special dance so they can teleport around the universe. Also they come here to deliver pizza.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:51 - May 24 with 1945 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:32 - May 24 by DanTheMan

They started off with single cell organisms for a few billion years, orchestrated multiple mass extinction events just to end up with us? No, sorry to me that does not make sense.

I don't disagree that we could have been "seeded" by something though, to be clear. I disagree that it was done by design though, just because there is no evidence for that.


i'm not saying they orchestrated anything (other than the planting). But it's feasible that all of life on Earth was just an experiment. By "design" I mean being designed to evolve... and then you see what happens.

It could even be one alien race started it and others have since come to have a look, long after that race died out.

I'm again not saying any of this is true or even likely.

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So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:58 - May 24 with 1924 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

So, are the Pentagon about to tell us UFOs are real in a couple of weeks? on 08:50 - May 24 by DanTheMan

OK I don't really understand the point of responding.

The aliens are all magicians who have do a special dance so they can teleport around the universe. Also they come here to deliver pizza.

Happy?


It's just a discussion, idle speculation. You can respond or not... no-one's looking for truth or answers here, because we don't know what could happen 1000, 10000, a million years in the future. There's no need to get all arsey and patronising just because the fact that we don't know has touched a nerve.

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