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The Government is just about to announce that they will be breaking the NI protocol deal they signed with the EU, the famous "oven ready" Brexit deal.
"Boris" said last night on C4 news:
"Yes, I agreed it (the NI protocol). I hoped & believed our friends (the EU) would not necessarily want to apply it"
Here's what another Tory leader said in the past:
"Britain does not break treaties. It would be bad for Britain, bad for our relations with the rest of the world and bad for any future treaty on trade we may need to make.”
I find it deeply, deeply ironic that the party that swathes itself in our national flag is currently overseeing, as a direct results of its actions, the imminent break-up of the Union and the complete trashing of our international reputation.
As I've said before, the only way we'll know we've turned a corner in all of this and back to the nation we'd like to be is when those responsible have been put on trial for treason.
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 10:26 - May 17 with 2825 views
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 10:41 - May 17 by GavTWTD
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I never disliked anyone as much as Boris.
I always believed, naively, that we had measures in place to stop someone like him coming along and destroying everything we'd built over centuries, but seems they have unlimited powers to give themselves powers. A madness.
I mean 'I agreed to a thing that would be terrible on the basis that I never thought the other people agreeing to thing would actually want to do it'. Where to start?
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 10:46 - May 17 with 2696 views
They have announced it about 20 times already, mainly to placate the Brexit zealots in the ERG and Tory press and then walked back from it at the last minute.
Yes, it's a general erosion of the UK's soft power and standing globally because we are governed by such self-interested, short-termist charlatans but the likelihood of them actually reneging on the protocol is probably less than the amount of noise they have made.
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 10:54 - May 17 by Steve_M
They have announced it about 20 times already, mainly to placate the Brexit zealots in the ERG and Tory press and then walked back from it at the last minute.
Yes, it's a general erosion of the UK's soft power and standing globally because we are governed by such self-interested, short-termist charlatans but the likelihood of them actually reneging on the protocol is probably less than the amount of noise they have made.
Also the erosion of the peer pressured ideas of integrity and responsibility that exist by convention in our consitution. That is an alarming trend and very very dangerous.
[Post edited 17 May 2022 16:52]
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 14:48 - May 17 with 2277 views
The Tories negotiated the deal and announced it in triumphant style. So how come, the EU seem happy with it but not the UK? If it does indeed add costs to one side how come not the other?
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 14:53 - May 17 with 2249 views
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 14:49 - May 17 by MattinLondon
Sorry to ask a stupid question.
The Tories negotiated the deal and announced it in triumphant style. So how come, the EU seem happy with it but not the UK? If it does indeed add costs to one side how come not the other?
The tories knew it was a bad deal, but they had to " get brexit done", so they announced that they'd signed a " great deal", even though they knew it was bad, but as is Johnson's modus operandi, he had no intention of doing what he signed up for, as he doesn't believe rules apply to him, if they disadvantage him in any way.
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 14:53 - May 17 by SaleAway
The tories knew it was a bad deal, but they had to " get brexit done", so they announced that they'd signed a " great deal", even though they knew it was bad, but as is Johnson's modus operandi, he had no intention of doing what he signed up for, as he doesn't believe rules apply to him, if they disadvantage him in any way.
So if this country gets a reputation for not honouring deals etc other countries either won’t bother with us or treat the government with caution.
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 16:35 - May 17 with 2105 views
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 10:46 - May 17 by ZXBlue
Absolutely disgraceful.
Forget partygate and all the rest. This is the most damning indcitment of this man to date.
Partygate should be part of the same conversation as it is also a symptom of the same problem; that he’s a pathological liar who genuinely believes he (and therefore by extension, his government) is above the rules, laws and morals that bind society.
He made the law that he repeatedly broke and is being fined multiple times for over gatherings during Covid.
He is the man who tried to prorogue parliament.
He said that they were happy to break international law in a specific and limited way.
Why would it surprise anyone that he is happy to break another law whenever he feels like it? Why would it surprise anyone that he was happy to defend Owen Pattinson when he was first found guilty too?
The sad thing is that far too many of the electorate do not seem to care.
Be interesting to see if this aggressive bad faith approach to negotiations works in our favour I suppose.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 21:01 - May 17 by chicoazul
Be interesting to see if this aggressive bad faith approach to negotiations works in our favour I suppose.
I suppose it will allow anyone we have negotiated with to simply change anything they don't like whenever they want and say "well, we didn't think you would honour the agreement anyway".
I suspect there will be only one winner when we choose to ignore/break agreements with a trading block as big as the EU. And that is aside from the domestic terror repercussions that were warned of as part of so-called "Project Fear".
I remember when the Rees-Mogg, frankly a ludicrous parliamentary character with little chance of a prominent role… started to sliver his way to the front benches, into the void as competent Tories who had voted remain were pushed aside. But it still felt like a joke and an implausibility.
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 14:49 - May 17 by MattinLondon
Sorry to ask a stupid question.
The Tories negotiated the deal and announced it in triumphant style. So how come, the EU seem happy with it but not the UK? If it does indeed add costs to one side how come not the other?
Firstly there is the no small mattero f the UK's credit rating - it is down from AAA to something lower. Reneging on an International Traety is akin to degault in lian. Try not paying a loan to the bank and see what happens next trime you ask.
This problem was knowm from 2015 onwars. By 209 all maner of report werre coming out from autorative sources oiubting out, not only the cist, but the oriblems.
the ptobllem was/is there are still a fair number whose foirelock tugging stops them from questioning their betters - so the onlytengagement wa met with the hseep like bleats of @prohect fear, remoaners etc@
i suspect however that the bowler hatted bigits are simply playing up to win more concessions (money).
People like Liz Truss are no more than useful idiots, who are probably aware of that fact, so tie the line ti keep their job.
There is also the problem of a trade deal, one with the orange faced clown told us would be extremely biggly and would be signed in the summer of 2017. Guess what ?
The US will not look too favourably on the UK trying to break an international treaty. One, they had a big part in brokering, and have a huge Irish (decedents) populace to placate.
Unfortunately Johnson is weak and spineless, and will undoubtedly perform another political u-turn, as he has done on other matters so many times.
I would further venture that this will merely be another step towards the UK being back in the EU. The tide has already turned, as failings are being admitted and concessions agreed.
And just as the weasels, stoats and other vermin were finally ejected from Toad Hall, so sanity will be restored as Johnson and his menagerie of third raters are turned out of Parliament, and the UK sets about being part of global trade again, not stuck hidden behind a stockade of self imposed rules, regulations, costs and delays
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 21:30 - May 17 with 1769 views
Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 21:16 - May 17 by HARRY10
Firstly there is the no small mattero f the UK's credit rating - it is down from AAA to something lower. Reneging on an International Traety is akin to degault in lian. Try not paying a loan to the bank and see what happens next trime you ask.
This problem was knowm from 2015 onwars. By 209 all maner of report werre coming out from autorative sources oiubting out, not only the cist, but the oriblems.
the ptobllem was/is there are still a fair number whose foirelock tugging stops them from questioning their betters - so the onlytengagement wa met with the hseep like bleats of @prohect fear, remoaners etc@
i suspect however that the bowler hatted bigits are simply playing up to win more concessions (money).
People like Liz Truss are no more than useful idiots, who are probably aware of that fact, so tie the line ti keep their job.
There is also the problem of a trade deal, one with the orange faced clown told us would be extremely biggly and would be signed in the summer of 2017. Guess what ?
The US will not look too favourably on the UK trying to break an international treaty. One, they had a big part in brokering, and have a huge Irish (decedents) populace to placate.
Unfortunately Johnson is weak and spineless, and will undoubtedly perform another political u-turn, as he has done on other matters so many times.
I would further venture that this will merely be another step towards the UK being back in the EU. The tide has already turned, as failings are being admitted and concessions agreed.
And just as the weasels, stoats and other vermin were finally ejected from Toad Hall, so sanity will be restored as Johnson and his menagerie of third raters are turned out of Parliament, and the UK sets about being part of global trade again, not stuck hidden behind a stockade of self imposed rules, regulations, costs and delays
You might want to edit that, Harry.
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Finally, kiss the reputation of the UK goodbye... on 21:49 - May 17 with 1733 views
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