Please log in or register. Registered visitors get fewer ads.
Forum index | Previous Thread | Next thread
F**k the tories!! 13:09 - Dec 6 with 9664 viewsnoggin

My old mum is in a bad way, in pain and unable to even sit up. She's probably suffering from sepsis, so my sister, who is a nurse, just called 999. Up to 22 hour wait for an ambulance!!! You b*st*rds!!


Poll: If KM goes now, will you applaud him when he returns with his new club?

23
F**k the tories!! on 19:29 - Dec 6 with 2359 viewsnoggin

Quick update.. She's now in hospital. Only about 10 hours in the end (They could use that to claim they're reducing ambulance waiting times).
Thanks for all the kind words.
[Post edited 6 Dec 2022 19:32]

Poll: If KM goes now, will you applaud him when he returns with his new club?

20
F**k the tories!! on 19:40 - Dec 6 with 2325 viewsHARRY10

F**k the tories!! on 19:02 - Dec 6 by XYZ

Great post.

Whilst deliberately destroying the NHS, this is what they were doing with our money ...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/06/revealed-second-firm-pushed-by-m

Best wishes to Noggin's Mum.

If you voted for these lying corrupt tories, I hope you can live with yourselves.

This was all forecast pre-Covid and here we are.


The sickening is how the thick somehow convince themselves they have common purpose with such scum. Are red wallers counting the millions in their offshore accounts - opened and filled since 2019 ?#

Do they really think Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg believed any of the shy te they told them ? Were those unemployed really going to be able to move from the North to where the work is - or take up healthcare work, untrained. How many f those running Leave have private healthcare ? How many of those will be affected by the price rises ?

The one irony is that those most dependent on the nhs (age wise) are the very bigots who voted for Brexit Maybe at some point it will dawn on them.... they were had. Sadly there are plenty of older voters who could see through the lies, but will suffer also.

I recently saw a programme about the last days of Berlin 1945, and wondered how many ignored the warnings. the words 'first they came for.... etc' wemt unheeded.

A bit of coloured cloth. Telling the voters they are special and that others are trying to take what is theirs. Not rocket science, is it? And I sometimes wonder if the shysters can believe how easy it is to fool so many.

And how easy it will be next time. Because there will be a next time, as there never seems a shortage of thickos to exploit, or the Farages of this world to exploit them either.
1
F**k the tories!! on 19:58 - Dec 6 with 2279 viewsSwansea_Blue

F**k the tories!! on 19:29 - Dec 6 by noggin

Quick update.. She's now in hospital. Only about 10 hours in the end (They could use that to claim they're reducing ambulance waiting times).
Thanks for all the kind words.
[Post edited 6 Dec 2022 19:32]


Uppie for getting an ambulance, not because I’m happy she’s in hospital!

It’s not a good time to be I’ll in the UK at the moment. We’re still ok getting a GP appointment same day if needed, but it seems that’s rare and we’re lucky here (I don’t know whether that’s unique to our practice, Swansea health area or Wales). Ambulances here are bad though, same as over the border.

I think I’ve mentioned before that I’ve a colleague who was even quoted a several month wait to go private for an op. If the staff can’t even get around to their private patients, things must be tight.

Poll: Do you think Pert is key to all of this?

1
F**k the tories!! on 20:04 - Dec 6 with 2270 viewsunstableblue

Hope your mum is feeling OK, manages to get some care and has a speedy recovery.

I've unfortunately had to have a lot of experience of the NHS recently, and I have total respect for healthcare professionals, in general they are undervalued heroes (albeit there are a very small minority of bad actors). NHS staff are now under so much stress, under resourced, its unsustainable, it's a crisis, and this is worsened by poor processes.

The NHS is now completely on its knees. And unless you are in need of it (as you are noggin) or working in it, I don't think you understand the magnitude of the problem OR just how important a service it is. These upcoming strikes are frightening - but I respect them, as I know it is not just wages, it is a cry for help for resources.

111, 999, local GP practices are just not functioning. A&E departments are like war zones.

This is the most important part of our society. I just hope that TWTDers stay well and don't have to rely on this distressed health service. BUT, when it works, and if it works given the resource constraints, it is a fabulous healthcare service.

Changing the government at the next election is justified alone by the ruinous state of the NHS.

Poll: How do you rate the new home kit out of 5?

11
F**k the tories!! on 20:13 - Dec 6 with 2251 viewsunstableblue

F**k the tories!! on 19:58 - Dec 6 by Swansea_Blue

Uppie for getting an ambulance, not because I’m happy she’s in hospital!

It’s not a good time to be I’ll in the UK at the moment. We’re still ok getting a GP appointment same day if needed, but it seems that’s rare and we’re lucky here (I don’t know whether that’s unique to our practice, Swansea health area or Wales). Ambulances here are bad though, same as over the border.

I think I’ve mentioned before that I’ve a colleague who was even quoted a several month wait to go private for an op. If the staff can’t even get around to their private patients, things must be tight.


Same day appointment at GP really is not the norm!

The wait times for seeing consultants in relation to serious issues or follow-ups to serious issues, are very very long currently.

We simply just can't fund or recruit enough resources. Brexit is also a factor in terms of available resource.

Poll: How do you rate the new home kit out of 5?

1
F**k the tories!! on 20:26 - Dec 6 with 2232 viewsunstableblue

F**k the tories!! on 18:30 - Dec 6 by ArnoldMoorhen

Heartbraking. So sorry to hear this, I can't imagine what this is like for your Mum, or you and others who care about her and are waiting helplessly.

I'm late to this thread, 5 hours since you posted.

Less than a quarter of the wait time for an ambulance for somebody with diagnosed sepsis.

I don't know how to process this. Angry and want to cry with the helplessness of it all.

We fcking told so many people that this would happen.

Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics etc etc made videos explaining it. "24 hours to Save the NHS!" campaign just before the last General Election. I know so many "nice" and "respectable" people who voted Tory.

As you say "Fck them".

They voted that way so they could keep themselves where they are and others beneath them. And people are dying because of their pathetic selfishness, and others are waiting for help, and feeling alone and scared.

Cruel. Nasty.

This Tory Government think that they can get away with anything, because so many people have swallowed the lie of selfishness, and there are never any consequences for their actions. Because who cares about your actions, when you can give them distractions?

Point at desperate people in dinghies!

Judge people who are different!

Blame them for everything!

And, just to make sure:

Offer a tax cut to the Middle Classes!

And, behind the scenes, rake as much money from Public Funds towards the Agencies and Service Supply Companies run by your mates.

So that there's none left for a proper pay rise for Nurses, and Cleaners, and Paramedics, and Doctors, and Physiotherapists.

From "24 Hours to Save the NHS" to "22 Hours to wait for an ambulance".

Fck the Tories (because they did this quite deliberately) and Fck everyone who voted for them (because they voted Tory by choice, these are some of the consequences of that choice, and so part of the blame lies with them).


There was a really interesting radio story about the state of GP practices with a number of experts, including two people that run GP partnerships.

As well as interesting debate about the funding mechanisms and the insane hours.

The big theme that came out was how the current government and right-wing media have chosen to demonise GPs, using red meat simplistic arguments to move the blame to GPs rather than the government itself.

Classis populism!!

Poll: How do you rate the new home kit out of 5?

0
F**k the tories!! on 21:20 - Dec 6 with 2189 viewsXYZ

3
F**k the tories!! on 22:06 - Dec 6 with 2150 viewsNthQldITFC

F**k the tories!! on 18:30 - Dec 6 by ArnoldMoorhen

Heartbraking. So sorry to hear this, I can't imagine what this is like for your Mum, or you and others who care about her and are waiting helplessly.

I'm late to this thread, 5 hours since you posted.

Less than a quarter of the wait time for an ambulance for somebody with diagnosed sepsis.

I don't know how to process this. Angry and want to cry with the helplessness of it all.

We fcking told so many people that this would happen.

Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics etc etc made videos explaining it. "24 hours to Save the NHS!" campaign just before the last General Election. I know so many "nice" and "respectable" people who voted Tory.

As you say "Fck them".

They voted that way so they could keep themselves where they are and others beneath them. And people are dying because of their pathetic selfishness, and others are waiting for help, and feeling alone and scared.

Cruel. Nasty.

This Tory Government think that they can get away with anything, because so many people have swallowed the lie of selfishness, and there are never any consequences for their actions. Because who cares about your actions, when you can give them distractions?

Point at desperate people in dinghies!

Judge people who are different!

Blame them for everything!

And, just to make sure:

Offer a tax cut to the Middle Classes!

And, behind the scenes, rake as much money from Public Funds towards the Agencies and Service Supply Companies run by your mates.

So that there's none left for a proper pay rise for Nurses, and Cleaners, and Paramedics, and Doctors, and Physiotherapists.

From "24 Hours to Save the NHS" to "22 Hours to wait for an ambulance".

Fck the Tories (because they did this quite deliberately) and Fck everyone who voted for them (because they voted Tory by choice, these are some of the consequences of that choice, and so part of the blame lies with them).


The only thing I don't say is the f. everybody who voted for them bit. Yes, people have to take responsibility for what they have done, but at least some of those people who were misguided at the last GE will be seriously and morosely regretting their vote now (as we can see from the massive swing to Labour) and some of them will feel bad and will be putting it right soon.

But I totally understand the sentiment nonetheless, it's a very righteous anger with those responsible for the dreadful state we are in now. I have a bit of an (over?)-optimistic view on this, in that I believe there's still enough fundamental decency in this country for us to see more than a drift back to the middle, and some real and lasting social change on the swing back.

⚔ Long live the Duke of Punuar ⚔
Poll: How would you feel about a UK Identity Card?

1
Login to get fewer ads

F**k the tories!! on 07:14 - Dec 7 with 2025 viewsdickie

Someone close to me works as a clinician for 111 and they're not even sending ambulances for c2 stroke and heart attack cases. The service is on its knees
0
F**k the tories!! on 08:10 - Dec 7 with 1977 viewsChurchman

F**k the tories!! on 07:14 - Dec 7 by dickie

Someone close to me works as a clinician for 111 and they're not even sending ambulances for c2 stroke and heart attack cases. The service is on its knees


It’s just as the government wants it. The further down the pan it goes, the easier it’ll be to bring in more privatisation/American style three tier health care. If you want a doctor, pay for it. Hospital treatment, get your wallet out. Care for your elderly relation - put a granny annex on the mansion and employ some staff. Supplies? Easy. Nice fat contracts to people who deserve them, just as was done with PPE, Track and Trace etc.

My brother in law has a serious condition requiring an operation. When will he get it? Who knows, if ever. My dad, who is very frail and while the fractured medical system is great when they get to deal with him, it’s wing and a prayer, lap of the gods stuff.

When late mother fell ill eight years ago from then to the day she died three years later the service was patchy and very hard to negotiate. The shambles it was then is now worse - just as the government want it. In 12 years what has it done? Harm. As much as it could manage. Still, health Secretary hero Hancock picked up £300k in the jungle instead of working for his constituents, so not all bad, eh?

As Unstableblue points out far more eloquently than me, it’s not the staff. They are brilliant. Most of them do stuff I couldn’t do in my wildest dreams - for a lot less than I was paid. They had my unbounded respect long before clapping outside the front door.

So when the government place blame on health workers like ambulance crews for trying to get paid a living wage, Sunak and co should hang their heads in shame. But then as multi millionaires why should they care? It’s simple. They don’t. They are in public service for their own material ends, not serving the plebs. For them, there are no rules, no problems, just opportunities - for themselves.

They disgust me. Rant over.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 8:11]
9
F**k the tories!! on 08:15 - Dec 7 with 1967 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

F**k the tories!! on 08:10 - Dec 7 by Churchman

It’s just as the government wants it. The further down the pan it goes, the easier it’ll be to bring in more privatisation/American style three tier health care. If you want a doctor, pay for it. Hospital treatment, get your wallet out. Care for your elderly relation - put a granny annex on the mansion and employ some staff. Supplies? Easy. Nice fat contracts to people who deserve them, just as was done with PPE, Track and Trace etc.

My brother in law has a serious condition requiring an operation. When will he get it? Who knows, if ever. My dad, who is very frail and while the fractured medical system is great when they get to deal with him, it’s wing and a prayer, lap of the gods stuff.

When late mother fell ill eight years ago from then to the day she died three years later the service was patchy and very hard to negotiate. The shambles it was then is now worse - just as the government want it. In 12 years what has it done? Harm. As much as it could manage. Still, health Secretary hero Hancock picked up £300k in the jungle instead of working for his constituents, so not all bad, eh?

As Unstableblue points out far more eloquently than me, it’s not the staff. They are brilliant. Most of them do stuff I couldn’t do in my wildest dreams - for a lot less than I was paid. They had my unbounded respect long before clapping outside the front door.

So when the government place blame on health workers like ambulance crews for trying to get paid a living wage, Sunak and co should hang their heads in shame. But then as multi millionaires why should they care? It’s simple. They don’t. They are in public service for their own material ends, not serving the plebs. For them, there are no rules, no problems, just opportunities - for themselves.

They disgust me. Rant over.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 8:11]


Time for the public to join the picket lines?

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Poll: Do you wipe after having a piss?

2
F**k the tories!! on 09:02 - Dec 7 with 1936 viewsPinewoodblue

Bottom line is the NHS is underfunded we need to be taxed more to pay for it.

In recent years the LibDems included in their manifesto a commitment to raise income tax by 1p in the £ across the board. It didn’t do their prospects any good.

Never hear from Starmer where the money will come from although he does moan about Tories and their use of the money tree.

We need to hear what Labours solution is, and how they will find the funds.

2023 year of destiny
Poll: Dickhead "Noun" a stupid, irritating, or ridiculous man.

0
F**k the tories!! on 09:29 - Dec 7 with 1919 viewsnoggin

F**k the tories!! on 09:02 - Dec 7 by Pinewoodblue

Bottom line is the NHS is underfunded we need to be taxed more to pay for it.

In recent years the LibDems included in their manifesto a commitment to raise income tax by 1p in the £ across the board. It didn’t do their prospects any good.

Never hear from Starmer where the money will come from although he does moan about Tories and their use of the money tree.

We need to hear what Labours solution is, and how they will find the funds.


I would like to know WHY things have got so bad, so quickly. I worked for the London Ambulance Service up until 16 years ago. I can honestly say, I never once had to wait to hand over a patient at A&E. Now it's a daily occurrence and not just a few minutes.

Poll: If KM goes now, will you applaud him when he returns with his new club?

0
F**k the tories!! on 10:01 - Dec 7 with 1875 viewsPinewoodblue

F**k the tories!! on 09:29 - Dec 7 by noggin

I would like to know WHY things have got so bad, so quickly. I worked for the London Ambulance Service up until 16 years ago. I can honestly say, I never once had to wait to hand over a patient at A&E. Now it's a daily occurrence and not just a few minutes.


Accumulated effect of years of underfunding. Ambulance service has been a mess for years. A story from 5 years ago when my wife was in Spinal Injuries unit in Sheffield. Woman in next bed was being discharged, she was sitting in her wheel chair waiting by 8am. The ambulance arrived at 4am the next morning.

When it was my wife’s turn to be discharged they asked if I would go and collect her. She said No you transferred me here from Ipswich you can take me back. They used a wheelchair adapted minibus. Provided by a taxi firm from Cambridge.

I have DM’d you another example I wouldn’t want post on here, as too much personal info.

2023 year of destiny
Poll: Dickhead "Noun" a stupid, irritating, or ridiculous man.

1
F**k the tories!! on 10:28 - Dec 7 with 1848 viewsTalkingBlues

F**k the tories!! on 09:29 - Dec 7 by noggin

I would like to know WHY things have got so bad, so quickly. I worked for the London Ambulance Service up until 16 years ago. I can honestly say, I never once had to wait to hand over a patient at A&E. Now it's a daily occurrence and not just a few minutes.


The NHS has been in terminal decline for years and no matter what angle you look at it from, it all comes down to money, aka "funding". The reason it always comes back to this point, is because all the shoddy decisions made by Government that have crippled it over the years are made based on "costs".

Cap on medical training places since 2012 - Government says it's to ensure quality is maintained = Bullshoite, only exists to reduce costs.

Tories made various pledges in the last 4 years alone to the NHS that they didn't keep - because of cost

Workforce decline - the number of vacancies in the NHS has been high for 10 years and is now at record high numbers - combine terrible wages, with caps on training places (Government introduced from 2012) and tens of thousands suddenly leaving an already crippled NHS after the disastrous Brexit vote and things could only get measurably worse and they did.

Covid pandemic - the NHS was at its all time lowest ebb, then Covid arrived and wiped out pretty much any and all remaining functioning parts of the service, it has never recovered and simply won't in its current guise. The service can't cope with current demand, so how can you possibly propose to clear a backlog that grows each day?

There's plenty of further examples of how the NHS has been failed over the years, but whatever way you cut it, every decision that has affected it, has been based on money, costs, the bloodletting by the Government over the last decade has led to its current state, it's an absolute disgrace.

The only way out of this, is HUGE and sweeping change to every part of the service, which once again comes back to cost and the only way of raising the necessary funding this is via taxes. If somebody wants to take £5, £10, £20, £50 a month extra from my wages to reinstate this once great institution, then they're welcome to it and I'd imagine most of the UK's population would be in agreement. BUT not for one second do I want ANY of that money to be controlled, or distributed by the thieving bastards that run the Country, we need to implement a panel made up of those that work within the NHS and understand how best to restore it to its former glory.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 10:29]

Poll: Is it wrong to take more pleasure from seeing Germany lose, than England win

4
F**k the tories!! on 10:38 - Dec 7 with 1825 viewsPinewoodblue

F**k the tories!! on 10:28 - Dec 7 by TalkingBlues

The NHS has been in terminal decline for years and no matter what angle you look at it from, it all comes down to money, aka "funding". The reason it always comes back to this point, is because all the shoddy decisions made by Government that have crippled it over the years are made based on "costs".

Cap on medical training places since 2012 - Government says it's to ensure quality is maintained = Bullshoite, only exists to reduce costs.

Tories made various pledges in the last 4 years alone to the NHS that they didn't keep - because of cost

Workforce decline - the number of vacancies in the NHS has been high for 10 years and is now at record high numbers - combine terrible wages, with caps on training places (Government introduced from 2012) and tens of thousands suddenly leaving an already crippled NHS after the disastrous Brexit vote and things could only get measurably worse and they did.

Covid pandemic - the NHS was at its all time lowest ebb, then Covid arrived and wiped out pretty much any and all remaining functioning parts of the service, it has never recovered and simply won't in its current guise. The service can't cope with current demand, so how can you possibly propose to clear a backlog that grows each day?

There's plenty of further examples of how the NHS has been failed over the years, but whatever way you cut it, every decision that has affected it, has been based on money, costs, the bloodletting by the Government over the last decade has led to its current state, it's an absolute disgrace.

The only way out of this, is HUGE and sweeping change to every part of the service, which once again comes back to cost and the only way of raising the necessary funding this is via taxes. If somebody wants to take £5, £10, £20, £50 a month extra from my wages to reinstate this once great institution, then they're welcome to it and I'd imagine most of the UK's population would be in agreement. BUT not for one second do I want ANY of that money to be controlled, or distributed by the thieving bastards that run the Country, we need to implement a panel made up of those that work within the NHS and understand how best to restore it to its former glory.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 10:29]


While everything you say in right there is still a lot than could be done to improve things without significant cost. It is amazing how different every day problems are tackled by different hospitals.

Things would be improved in many areas if best practice was widely adopted.

2023 year of destiny
Poll: Dickhead "Noun" a stupid, irritating, or ridiculous man.

1
F**k the tories!! on 10:54 - Dec 7 with 1797 viewsTalkingBlues

F**k the tories!! on 10:38 - Dec 7 by Pinewoodblue

While everything you say in right there is still a lot than could be done to improve things without significant cost. It is amazing how different every day problems are tackled by different hospitals.

Things would be improved in many areas if best practice was widely adopted.


I absolutely agree, but from experience of business (not NHS) I believe the core issues need to be addressed first and then best practice models rolled out alongside the necessary infrastructure change as it's implemented.

I used to sell communications systems and equipment into various NHS trusts and the decision making processes were just shambolic (even after the procurement portal was put into place) individual departments were making decisions and spending budget, because they just couldn't function and wouldn't wait any longer for other departments to get their act together, so you ended up with a myriad of comms equipment within the same hospitals, some that could be patched with middleware to work together, but most simply that didn't, it was just nuts. From my perspective, I know how important comms are to business, MOD, hospitals etc and it just highlighted the scale of change needed to the service as a whole and not just from a patient care perspective, it's a mammoth task, but one we must undertake and should have done years ago.

Poll: Is it wrong to take more pleasure from seeing Germany lose, than England win

0
F**k the tories!! on 11:06 - Dec 7 with 1775 viewsjeera

F**k the tories!! on 10:54 - Dec 7 by TalkingBlues

I absolutely agree, but from experience of business (not NHS) I believe the core issues need to be addressed first and then best practice models rolled out alongside the necessary infrastructure change as it's implemented.

I used to sell communications systems and equipment into various NHS trusts and the decision making processes were just shambolic (even after the procurement portal was put into place) individual departments were making decisions and spending budget, because they just couldn't function and wouldn't wait any longer for other departments to get their act together, so you ended up with a myriad of comms equipment within the same hospitals, some that could be patched with middleware to work together, but most simply that didn't, it was just nuts. From my perspective, I know how important comms are to business, MOD, hospitals etc and it just highlighted the scale of change needed to the service as a whole and not just from a patient care perspective, it's a mammoth task, but one we must undertake and should have done years ago.


There's not even a nationwide information sharing network which seems madness to me.

So if one is admitted somewhere in the country for whatever reason there's no automatic way to access their records from their regular GP surgery/ local hospital.

One department at the WSH in Bury still only deals in paperwork; i.e. the treatment I had is only recorded by hard copy. So there are two copies, one in a cabinet in the unit, and one in a drawer in my home.

Poll: Xmas dinner: Yorkshires or not?

1
F**k the tories!! on 11:10 - Dec 7 with 1763 viewsnoggin

F**k the tories!! on 11:06 - Dec 7 by jeera

There's not even a nationwide information sharing network which seems madness to me.

So if one is admitted somewhere in the country for whatever reason there's no automatic way to access their records from their regular GP surgery/ local hospital.

One department at the WSH in Bury still only deals in paperwork; i.e. the treatment I had is only recorded by hard copy. So there are two copies, one in a cabinet in the unit, and one in a drawer in my home.


Wow, that is ridiculous.

Poll: If KM goes now, will you applaud him when he returns with his new club?

0
F**k the tories!! on 11:16 - Dec 7 with 1739 viewsjeera

F**k the tories!! on 11:10 - Dec 7 by noggin

Wow, that is ridiculous.


2022.

How's mum?
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 11:17]

Poll: Xmas dinner: Yorkshires or not?

0
F**k the tories!! on 11:17 - Dec 7 with 1738 viewsTalkingBlues

F**k the tories!! on 11:06 - Dec 7 by jeera

There's not even a nationwide information sharing network which seems madness to me.

So if one is admitted somewhere in the country for whatever reason there's no automatic way to access their records from their regular GP surgery/ local hospital.

One department at the WSH in Bury still only deals in paperwork; i.e. the treatment I had is only recorded by hard copy. So there are two copies, one in a cabinet in the unit, and one in a drawer in my home.


There's something called NHS Digital, which is responsible for collating all GP's patient records across the UK, with a view to information being centralized and thus more easily accessible to the various NHS functions, but I believe this migration of data was only started last year, so god knows how long it will take to complete. I also don't know if this will be combined with hospital data (you'd think that's the whole idea and makes most sense, but I've thought that before with regard to data collation processes within the NHS and the truth has been different).

Poll: Is it wrong to take more pleasure from seeing Germany lose, than England win

0
F**k the tories!! on 11:21 - Dec 7 with 1726 viewsgiant_stow

F**k the tories!! on 19:29 - Dec 6 by noggin

Quick update.. She's now in hospital. Only about 10 hours in the end (They could use that to claim they're reducing ambulance waiting times).
Thanks for all the kind words.
[Post edited 6 Dec 2022 19:32]


10 hours...

feel for you and you're mum Noggin - that's just way too long.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
Poll: A clasmate tells your son their going to beat him up in the playground after sch

0
F**k the tories!! on 11:36 - Dec 7 with 1696 viewsChurchman

F**k the tories!! on 09:29 - Dec 7 by noggin

I would like to know WHY things have got so bad, so quickly. I worked for the London Ambulance Service up until 16 years ago. I can honestly say, I never once had to wait to hand over a patient at A&E. Now it's a daily occurrence and not just a few minutes.


There are people far more qualified than me to comment but my 10p worth is:

1. NHS England: I came across these people some years ago in connection with work/people that worked for them. Not fit for purpose.
2. Bad management and waste: only people in the service can comment but from the outside it doesn’t look good
3. No coherent health provision: in 2015 when my mother needed convalescent care after breaking her hip, there wasn’t any. All places of that kind had been closed in Suffolk since 2010 due to cuts. Ipswich hospital was at that time crammed with elderly people with no place to go. My mum nearly died in there because of it and it took far to long to find somewhere suitable - Asterbury Care Home.
4. Social care: different budget, no connection to NHS. Separate pots of money common problem/blocker in the public sector. Different social workers, get your tanks off my lawn approach from both sides. No surprise when the elderly patients were chucked out of hospitals into care homes with Covid that then killed 1000s of people. A national scandal.
5. Political will: there isn’t any. The tories are not interested in the NHS or care provision. They call it ‘small state’. They mean ‘make your own arrangements’
6. Lastly - money: the NHS and social care budget is £200bn PA. The GDP is what, £3 trillion? Whatever the health budget is, find more money. If taxes have to go up, income tax is a good start. It means those with the most pay more. It isn’t hard or unfair is it?

All I hear from the well paid decision makers is what they can’t do. As somebody whose work was about finding solutions, I see little of that. Health provision in other countries as a starting point - why not find out how they fund it, pick the best ideas and come up with solutions to what the people of this country need? We all know why.

The JRMs of this world are not interested. They never have been, never will be. 12 years - there are no excuses.

Apologies for this post. It’s an emotive topic.
5
F**k the tories!! on 11:50 - Dec 7 with 1675 viewsnoggin

F**k the tories!! on 11:16 - Dec 7 by jeera

2022.

How's mum?
[Post edited 7 Dec 2022 11:17]


She's already been moved to a general ward, which has to be good news. Should get an update this afternoon. Thanks for asking.

Poll: If KM goes now, will you applaud him when he returns with his new club?

11
F**k the tories!! on 12:21 - Dec 7 with 1626 viewsClapham_Junction

F**k the tories!! on 11:17 - Dec 7 by TalkingBlues

There's something called NHS Digital, which is responsible for collating all GP's patient records across the UK, with a view to information being centralized and thus more easily accessible to the various NHS functions, but I believe this migration of data was only started last year, so god knows how long it will take to complete. I also don't know if this will be combined with hospital data (you'd think that's the whole idea and makes most sense, but I've thought that before with regard to data collation processes within the NHS and the truth has been different).


It's absolutely bonkers how slow we have been in doing this. When I lived in Israel in the early 2000s, all my medical stuff, booking appointments and even viewing scans and x-rays etc, was all done on a single online account.

Didn't the Daily Mail have a big campaign against it at some point?
0




About Us Contact Us Terms & Conditions Privacy Cookies Online Safety Advertising
© TWTD 1995-2025