| Not often I agree with the government on 19:58 - May 5 with 1051 views | Swansea_Blue |
Based on the information in that article I disagree. The parole board decision has been approved by a judge. That’s the legal process in action. And what worries me is this comment from Raab “the parole board needs a fundamental overhaul, including a ministerial check for the most serious offenders”. More attempts by this government to undermine the legislature and rule of law.
Ultimately she was sentenced for a minimum of 5 years some 11 years ago and has already had many parole hearings turned down, so it seems a reasonable decision on the face of it. It’s an easy win for Raab to be outraged at the Board though - plays to the base much like all the lefty lawyer nonsense.
I’d like her to rot in hell for eternity, but we have to respect the law as it stands. If we don’t respect the law, what does it make us?* Horrendous case though and certainly one that makes you wonder whether we need a review of sentencing lengths.
*a Tory Prime Minister or staff, obviously, but that was meant to be rhetorical! [Post edited 5 May 2022 20:01]
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| Not often I agree with the government on 20:48 - May 5 with 935 views | HARRY10 |
Whereas, having decisions like this taken by politicians is a dangerous path to begin on.
Neither you or I, no almost all the rest of the populace know the full story, or on what basis the decision was made by the JUDICIARY.
The type of democracy enjoyed by the west and most countries in the world is one where the government and the judiciary are separate and independent.
I would biggest you have a read up on why that is so (assuming you don't already know), and be aware of a government pandering to the 'pitchforks and torches' mentality of a right wing press.
It is disturbing that there are folk who would advocate such a dangerous power grab. |  | | |
| Not often I agree with the government on 09:13 - May 6 with 750 views | Eireannach_gorm |
'She had been let out on licence in 2013 but was recalled to prison in 2015 for breaching her parole conditions.'
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| Not often I agree with the government on 11:17 - May 6 with 683 views | GlasgowBlue |
Although it plays nicely into the Tory hands to claim that the judiciary is too soft. In public the government are absolutely raging about this decision. In private they will be rubbing their hands with glee.
They don't care about Baby P or how long hios mother sends in prison. They care about culture wars. |  |
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| Not often I agree with the government on 13:08 - May 6 with 602 views | STYG |
| Not often I agree with the government on 11:17 - May 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Although it plays nicely into the Tory hands to claim that the judiciary is too soft. In public the government are absolutely raging about this decision. In private they will be rubbing their hands with glee.
They don't care about Baby P or how long hios mother sends in prison. They care about culture wars. |
Credit where it's due. You've rightly called out your lot lately for many of the mistakes they have made.
You're quite right. They don't care and it's all for show.
Quite simply, I have never agreed with some of the sentences handed out for certain offences and where there are such clear inconsistencies in the severity of the crime.
This is an utterly horrendous case and most people would be happy to see her rot in a cell forever, but ultimately the law should be applied to the letter in every case, even when that does mean that in our lifetimes we will see people released that we believe should never be free. | | | |
| Not often I agree with the government on 13:36 - May 6 with 550 views | ZXBlue |
I could not disagree more. Separation of powers is fundamental to our democracy. The idea that politicians should get to 'check' decisions properly made by an independent judiciary is appalling and terrifying. The idea that Raab thinks he is qualified to do so is even worse.
The man is justice Secretary and is actively of the view that he should have power to amend decisions he doesn't like
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| Not often I agree with the government on 13:45 - May 6 with 524 views | STYG |
| Not often I agree with the government on 13:36 - May 6 by ZXBlue |
I could not disagree more. Separation of powers is fundamental to our democracy. The idea that politicians should get to 'check' decisions properly made by an independent judiciary is appalling and terrifying. The idea that Raab thinks he is qualified to do so is even worse.
The man is justice Secretary and is actively of the view that he should have power to amend decisions he doesn't like
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You can just imagine their version of 'justice'.
'What's he accused of?'
'Stealing'
'What's the evidence'
'Sketchy statement from a non-independent witness'
'What does he do?'
'Unemployed'
'Guilty'
'What's he accused of?'
'Stealing'
'What does he do?'
'Chairman of the Higher Uppity Golf Club'
'What's the evidnece'
'CCTV, dozens of eye witnesses, he was found trying to sell the stolen goods, a full written confession'
'Not Guilty' | | | |
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