| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman 08:28 - Nov 1 with 1066 views | DJR |
Interesting quote from a book about far-right nationalism.
"Nativist rhetoric – that immigrants are invading the homeland – has gained ever-greater traction, and political acceptance, across the West... In its most extreme form, it is echoed in the online manifesto of the man accused of gunning down 22 people last weekend in El Paso."
It's clear this has been done deliberately because it was clearly scripted. It seems to be a desperate attempt to shore up their vote. But at what cost, given the recent attack in Dover?
EDIT: Where the US goes, we appear to be not far behind these days, given the very close links between people like Braverman and shady right-wing US groups.
https://americasvoice.org/press_releases/the-real-threat-to-america-the-mainstre
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| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 08:45 - Nov 1 with 990 views | HARRY10 |
Surely that is racist as the politician you name is a person of colour, and is female, so it's misogyny as well ? |  | | |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 08:56 - Nov 1 with 963 views | DJR |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 08:45 - Nov 1 by HARRY10 |
Surely that is racist as the politician you name is a person of colour, and is female, so it's misogyny as well ? |
I am not really sure the point you are making, but people can be racist whatever their colour. And surely you are not saying that a person's rhetoric can't be challenged because they are of colour and a woman?
Or are you being sarcastic? [Post edited 1 Nov 2022 9:01]
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| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:17 - Nov 1 with 912 views | HARRY10 |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 08:56 - Nov 1 by DJR |
I am not really sure the point you are making, but people can be racist whatever their colour. And surely you are not saying that a person's rhetoric can't be challenged because they are of colour and a woman?
Or are you being sarcastic? [Post edited 1 Nov 2022 9:01]
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" a person's rhetoric can't be challenged because they are of colour and a woman? "
Should you mock the hypocrisy of someone who urged the nation to lose weight and get fit, then in fact get fatter himself you are being fattist, it would seem.
I am not sure what label they will attach were I to point out the hypocrisy of Rees-Mogg re brexit and him moving his money to Ireland. Moneyist ? And my referring him as a stick insect has up to now not caused them to squeak about thinnism.
Odd folk righties.
It is almost as if they have no argument, so have to conjure up words instead. I suspect I will be labelled woke at some point. Even if only that I am not asleep.
And yes, it was sarcasm. | | | |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:30 - Nov 1 with 887 views | Darth_Koont |
Agreed.
By the way, I think we’re worse than the US.
Yes, the extreme is more noticeable in the US due to their First Amendment/freedom of speech fetish. And many of the senators and congressmen are so secure in their positions that they can blithely trot out batsh1t stuff to their base and to grab attention.
But ... on the other hand, the opposition is much more audible and there’s more of a robust response. Not to mention, the left has a real voice if not as strong a position as it would like within the two-party system. But politics in the US is much more a living, breathing thing, nationally, at state level and locally.
The media in the US is also a lot better in general and much less of a self-interested monoculture.
Our shady extremism is within the corridors of power and hard-wired into the system. The Tufton Street loons and any other lobbyists with extreme or at least very narrow, self-interested views can just buy their way into the process and these views never need to be presented to the public democratically or really debated at all.
We have parlour-room politics with very little actual opposition. Not least because, on this issue and too many others, we see a pretty stable consensus across both major parties. |  |
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| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:32 - Nov 1 with 890 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 08:45 - Nov 1 by HARRY10 |
Surely that is racist as the politician you name is a person of colour, and is female, so it's misogyny as well ? |
People of colour can be racist Harry.
Braverman’s rhetoric was deplorable. Presenting refugees as a threat and invaders makes them a target.
She is an utterly vile human being. Her sex and colour are irrelevant, and calling her vile is neither racist or misogynistic. |  |
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| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:34 - Nov 1 with 877 views | Beckets |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:30 - Nov 1 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed.
By the way, I think we’re worse than the US.
Yes, the extreme is more noticeable in the US due to their First Amendment/freedom of speech fetish. And many of the senators and congressmen are so secure in their positions that they can blithely trot out batsh1t stuff to their base and to grab attention.
But ... on the other hand, the opposition is much more audible and there’s more of a robust response. Not to mention, the left has a real voice if not as strong a position as it would like within the two-party system. But politics in the US is much more a living, breathing thing, nationally, at state level and locally.
The media in the US is also a lot better in general and much less of a self-interested monoculture.
Our shady extremism is within the corridors of power and hard-wired into the system. The Tufton Street loons and any other lobbyists with extreme or at least very narrow, self-interested views can just buy their way into the process and these views never need to be presented to the public democratically or really debated at all.
We have parlour-room politics with very little actual opposition. Not least because, on this issue and too many others, we see a pretty stable consensus across both major parties. |
AOC alone is better than any politician we have. |  | | |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:41 - Nov 1 with 856 views | Darth_Koont |
| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:34 - Nov 1 by Beckets |
AOC alone is better than any politician we have. |
AOC would be marginalised or even thrown out of the current authoritarian, right-leaning Labour Party.
There are lots of people in the UK who are politically and socially aware, and who understand that change is long overdue in many areas of politics, society and the economy. But how many are involved in frontline politics or political coverage? Barely a handful. | |
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| Far-right rhetoric from Braverman on 09:58 - Nov 1 with 822 views | NthQldITFC |
I really like John Crace's ascerbic writing and character assassination, even if it is perhaps a little over the top at times, but I think he's really surpassed himself this time with his handle for von Bravermann... 'Leaky Sue'
I'm sure what it is, but that monicker has me tittering away this morning. |  |
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