| More tactical naivety... 21:22 - Dec 29 with 1981 views | Keaneish |
Tactical blunders are becoming a common theme, especially this month. Today we played a high press as we knew they like to play out from the back and at times we hunted in packs well but as soon as that ball went long they broke better than we could recover and we looked ragged for it. In my mind that’s because of the high press. Anyone else see it that way? |  |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:31 - Dec 29 with 1557 views | BlueBadger |
It's almost as if the manager isn't very good and is fishing for something, anything that suggest he can walk it like he talks it. |  |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:32 - Dec 29 with 1545 views | homer_123 |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:31 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
It's almost as if the manager isn't very good and is fishing for something, anything that suggest he can walk it like he talks it. |
He's played for big clubs you know. |  |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:34 - Dec 29 with 1542 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:31 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
It's almost as if the manager isn't very good and is fishing for something, anything that suggest he can walk it like he talks it. |
I wouldn’t say he was fishing for something, there’s perfectly good logic to his tactical approach, it just didn’t work, again - why? | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:36 - Dec 29 with 1524 views | homer_123 |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:34 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
I wouldn’t say he was fishing for something, there’s perfectly good logic to his tactical approach, it just didn’t work, again - why? |
Why doesn't the high press work?
We have a habit of not being able to keep the ball and often tend to go long and losing possession.
Therein lies the problem of the high press. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:38 - Dec 29 with 1511 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:34 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
I wouldn’t say he was fishing for something, there’s perfectly good logic to his tactical approach, it just didn’t work, again - why? |
This would seem like a perfectly good riposte to the argument 'Paul Lambert isn't a very good football manager' had we not just conceded 5 goals to Lincoln whilst in the throes of a winless league run extending into 'months', rather than 'games'. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:39 - Dec 29 with 1502 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:36 - Dec 29 by homer_123 |
Why doesn't the high press work?
We have a habit of not being able to keep the ball and often tend to go long and losing possession.
Therein lies the problem of the high press. |
Probably because it's not a tactic that the manager has tried until today? | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:39 - Dec 29 with 1499 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:32 - Dec 29 by homer_123 |
He's played for big clubs you know. |
Has he won European trophies, bought drinks and managed Norwich as well? | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:41 - Dec 29 with 1491 views | homer_123 |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:39 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
Has he won European trophies, bought drinks and managed Norwich as well? |
I believe so. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:43 - Dec 29 with 1473 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:38 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
This would seem like a perfectly good riposte to the argument 'Paul Lambert isn't a very good football manager' had we not just conceded 5 goals to Lincoln whilst in the throes of a winless league run extending into 'months', rather than 'games'. |
It would increasingly seem like that’s the case. I can’t understand why, when defending from the front we were so horribly exposed when they broke on us. Hard to see on iFollow but I’m assuming there was a big chasm between the midfield and the back. Either that or people weren’t doing though their jobs. Point being, was it the fault of the players or PLs approach!? | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:44 - Dec 29 with 1464 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:41 - Dec 29 by homer_123 |
I believe so. |
Why have we not given this man an extended contract? | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:45 - Dec 29 with 1459 views | Westcountryblue |
It's easy to see.
Our lack of a left winger is leaving us totally lop sided in the midfield. Same at RB.
Sort those 2 positions out and it will go a long way to solving our issues.
Another thing
Doz is a good player, but should only play in a 3 man central midfield.
Judge is a number 10...nothing else.
Woolfenden is superior to Donacien at RB
Sears isn't ready.
Keane offered us a presence and ability to hold the ball up to link the midfield. We should persist with him. |  | | |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:46 - Dec 29 with 1456 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:43 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
It would increasingly seem like that’s the case. I can’t understand why, when defending from the front we were so horribly exposed when they broke on us. Hard to see on iFollow but I’m assuming there was a big chasm between the midfield and the back. Either that or people weren’t doing though their jobs. Point being, was it the fault of the players or PLs approach!? |
People aren't doing their jobs because they don't know what their jobs are because their manager tells them their jobs are different every few working days.
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:51 - Dec 29 with 1413 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:45 - Dec 29 by Westcountryblue |
It's easy to see.
Our lack of a left winger is leaving us totally lop sided in the midfield. Same at RB.
Sort those 2 positions out and it will go a long way to solving our issues.
Another thing
Doz is a good player, but should only play in a 3 man central midfield.
Judge is a number 10...nothing else.
Woolfenden is superior to Donacien at RB
Sears isn't ready.
Keane offered us a presence and ability to hold the ball up to link the midfield. We should persist with him. |
Plus our manager isn't very good and hasn't settled on a consistent team, formation or pattern of play despite being charge over a year. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:52 - Dec 29 with 1411 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:46 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
People aren't doing their jobs because they don't know what their jobs are because their manager tells them their jobs are different every few working days.
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A 442 high-press is pretty ordinary though, right? They practice pressing day in day out. If it was a cohesion issue today, which it looked like it was there are bigger questions to resolve than just whether the tactics were right or not. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:56 - Dec 29 with 1395 views | itfcjoe |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:52 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
A 442 high-press is pretty ordinary though, right? They practice pressing day in day out. If it was a cohesion issue today, which it looked like it was there are bigger questions to resolve than just whether the tactics were right or not. |
Because we don’t press as a team, we don’t seem to have triggers and the wise midfielders are either not in position or poor at getting the ball back |  |
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| More tactical naivety... on 21:56 - Dec 29 with 1391 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:52 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
A 442 high-press is pretty ordinary though, right? They practice pressing day in day out. If it was a cohesion issue today, which it looked like it was there are bigger questions to resolve than just whether the tactics were right or not. |
It's been a 'cohesion issue' for months. The manager, who trains and selects the players hasn't selected a coherent side since he started in the job. There's your bigger issue, right there. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:00 - Dec 29 with 1367 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:56 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
It's been a 'cohesion issue' for months. The manager, who trains and selects the players hasn't selected a coherent side since he started in the job. There's your bigger issue, right there. |
I think we’re all agreed on that. He’s played a 442 for the last two games so I’m expecting the same at Wycombe. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:01 - Dec 29 with 1362 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:56 - Dec 29 by itfcjoe |
Because we don’t press as a team, we don’t seem to have triggers and the wise midfielders are either not in position or poor at getting the ball back |
As epitomized by Edwards and his pathetic attempts at tackling. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:04 - Dec 29 with 1328 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:00 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
I think we’re all agreed on that. He’s played a 442 for the last two games so I’m expecting the same at Wycombe. |
It's all a bit too little too late now isn't it? This whole 'basic tactics and formation' thing should have been bedded down in August, if not pre-season. Hell, there's a sound argument for saying it should have been bedded down in April, given that we were relegated then. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:05 - Dec 29 with 1312 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 21:56 - Dec 29 by itfcjoe |
Because we don’t press as a team, we don’t seem to have triggers and the wise midfielders are either not in position or poor at getting the ball back |
Almost as if we have no laid down plan A and first Xi, so the players don't know what's expected of them, because there's no rhyme or reason to the tactics. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:09 - Dec 29 with 1295 views | PJH |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:01 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
As epitomized by Edwards and his pathetic attempts at tackling. |
Now changed his name by deed poll to Edwards-Booked.
Should have been booked in first few minutes and could have got a second booking before being subbed. |  | | |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:09 - Dec 29 with 1290 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:01 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
As epitomized by Edwards and his pathetic attempts at tackling. |
..and the fact that his manager keeps playing him. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:10 - Dec 29 with 1281 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:09 - Dec 29 by PJH |
Now changed his name by deed poll to Edwards-Booked.
Should have been booked in first few minutes and could have got a second booking before being subbed. |
He should probably get an automatic yellow for being so rubbish. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:12 - Dec 29 with 1261 views | Keaneish |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:04 - Dec 29 by BlueBadger |
It's all a bit too little too late now isn't it? This whole 'basic tactics and formation' thing should have been bedded down in August, if not pre-season. Hell, there's a sound argument for saying it should have been bedded down in April, given that we were relegated then. |
Every team needs a plan A, B and C and they should definitely be drilled before August. I thought system wise we had a 442 and 532 and we were going to utilize those to unlock any oppo we faced.
Since then we’ve seen 4411, 442-diamond, 451 and a 433 all equally uncohesive.
Seems PL thought we had the squad to cope with anything he threw at them - seems we don’t. | |
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| More tactical naivety... on 22:14 - Dec 29 with 1252 views | BlueBadger |
| More tactical naivety... on 22:12 - Dec 29 by Keaneish |
Every team needs a plan A, B and C and they should definitely be drilled before August. I thought system wise we had a 442 and 532 and we were going to utilize those to unlock any oppo we faced.
Since then we’ve seen 4411, 442-diamond, 451 and a 433 all equally uncohesive.
Seems PL thought we had the squad to cope with anything he threw at them - seems we don’t. |
We have a squad to cope with the division. Trouble is, we don't have a manager able to. | |
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