| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert 18:57 - Oct 3 with 5064 views | Bluefish |
And I still believe he could possibly be successful but he has utterly failed. Only Ipswich Town supporters would try and excuse just how bad he has performed so far. We will never reach out potential while we continue to excuse levels like this. He should go now |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 14:57 - Oct 4 with 1746 views | pennyfathersleg |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 09:21 - Oct 4 by Churchman |
Coventry with no ground and no money strolled this league. So did Wycombe. You can go through the years and see clubs with a fraction of the resources of this one wiping the floor with it.
Clubs of this size or larger have only struggled in this rubbish league because they were in a mess themselves. As soon as they got their act together they walked it. Examples include Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Southampton, Forest.
It has nothing to do with respect. It has everything to do with resources and how you manage them. I neither respect or disrespect other clubs. I couldn’t care a less about them. The reality is that against some sides we and the opposition should be walking out on that pitch knowing the result is only going one way.
If you’ve played sport yourself you’ll know that feeling one way or the other. If you saw Robson’s team or even Burley’s you saw it at times too. You could see in their body language and faces that they had no chance before kick off. Whether you call it arrogance, confidence or anything else it amounts to the same thing. We should not be 19th after being given the runaround by Accrington. |
100% this!
I’m fed up with people excusing Cook for his performance so far. Teams should be dreading playing us, but it feels like the opposite. We are simply quite easy to beat. Only once in Cook’s reign have we dominated a team.
A huge amount of money has been spent this season and sitting 19th in division 3 is nowhere near good enough. 2 wins out of 12 games this season is not good enough. 6 wins in 27 is not good enough.
Compare us to others that have made big changes and not spent as much - Wigan, Morecambe etc.
I like Cook, but so far he has been an unmitigated disaster. To even make the play offs now, we need to go on an amazing run. I can’t see that happening. I don’t care what anyone says, not getting promotion this year would be a big failure. |  | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:00 - Oct 4 with 1737 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 12:50 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, because we're only 10 games in with an entirely new team. It's not a sample size you can judge very much from yet. |
Worth noting that plenty of teams in this league had a massive turnover of players this Summer. Perhaps not the extent of ITFC but lots made substantial changes. |  | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:12 - Oct 4 with 1711 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 13:24 - Oct 4 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
We’ve played 12 games this season, although presumably as last seasons games don’t count nor 10 this season, the other 2 won’t either [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 14:39]
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I'm obviously talking about games that matter and which we'll thus be putting a full strength team into, not reserves playing pizza cup games. |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:16 - Oct 4 with 1700 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:00 - Oct 4 by PrideOfTheEast |
Worth noting that plenty of teams in this league had a massive turnover of players this Summer. Perhaps not the extent of ITFC but lots made substantial changes. |
You've said it yourself, not the extent of ITFC. Our starting 11 is entirely unrecognisable from last season. It will take time - more than 10 games - to gel. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:21 - Oct 4 with 1690 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:16 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've said it yourself, not the extent of ITFC. Our starting 11 is entirely unrecognisable from last season. It will take time - more than 10 games - to gel. |
Think I'd rather a manager that can manage in-game with good coaching staff around him to test that personally. How many times have we been leading in games and then lost or drawn? It's embarrassing. I'm staggered by the acceptance of this by people I really am. The American's aren't here for a tea party - we have to get up quickly. | | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:43 - Oct 4 with 1663 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:12 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm obviously talking about games that matter and which we'll thus be putting a full strength team into, not reserves playing pizza cup games. |
Great, well then we’re back at 6 wins from 24 games then. Thanks for clearing that one up |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:48 - Oct 4 with 1656 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:43 - Oct 4 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Great, well then we’re back at 6 wins from 24 games then. Thanks for clearing that one up |
No, it's 10 games. Not sure why you're struggling with this. Last season's team - in fact club - is entirely different to this. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:54 - Oct 4 with 1639 views | LankHenners |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:16 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've said it yourself, not the extent of ITFC. Our starting 11 is entirely unrecognisable from last season. It will take time - more than 10 games - to gel. |
How many games, roughly? And what, in your opinion, does the 'gelling' process actually look like on the pitch? |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:57 - Oct 4 with 1620 views | ElderGrizzly |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:48 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, it's 10 games. Not sure why you're struggling with this. Last season's team - in fact club - is entirely different to this. |
Wigan have brought in 15 new players and sit top with 22 pts.
It must be easier to gel up North |  | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:58 - Oct 4 with 1618 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:48 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, it's 10 games. Not sure why you're struggling with this. Last season's team - in fact club - is entirely different to this. |
But a minute ago those 10 games didn’t count either, so no wonder I’m confused. Might be easier to just you know, count all of the games actually played?
Happy to go with 2 wins in 10 if it makes you feel better though. Get that man a 4 year extension! | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 16:51 - Oct 4 with 1560 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:57 - Oct 4 by ElderGrizzly |
Wigan have brought in 15 new players and sit top with 22 pts.
It must be easier to gel up North |
Are you again suggesting gelling is not a thing? You can just buy all the best players and they'll be on the same wavelength as each other immediately - and will take on and be able to implement all of the manager's ideas straight away? | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 16:55 - Oct 4 with 1557 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:54 - Oct 4 by LankHenners |
How many games, roughly? And what, in your opinion, does the 'gelling' process actually look like on the pitch? |
I've no idea how long a gelling process would take - it probably varies - but I doubt a bunch of strangers will know everything about how each other plays after 10 games.
What it looks like on the pitch is patterns of play coming off, players starting to know where other players are instinctively, things just starting to click on a more regular basis within games. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:07 - Oct 4 with 1534 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:58 - Oct 4 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
But a minute ago those 10 games didn’t count either, so no wonder I’m confused. Might be easier to just you know, count all of the games actually played?
Happy to go with 2 wins in 10 if it makes you feel better though. Get that man a 4 year extension! |
Where on earth did I say those 10 games don't count? I simply said they're not a big enough sample size to judge a brand new team by.
This team/Cook may well be not good enough, but I don't think 10 games is long enough to tell. It probably would be if we'd only changed half the team, because many of the players would know how each other plays/what runs they're likely to make/what they're great at/what their limitations are, already. But when you change the WHOLE team you have to give them a bit more time to figure this out, surely? | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:29 - Oct 4 with 1508 views | LankHenners |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 16:55 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I've no idea how long a gelling process would take - it probably varies - but I doubt a bunch of strangers will know everything about how each other plays after 10 games.
What it looks like on the pitch is patterns of play coming off, players starting to know where other players are instinctively, things just starting to click on a more regular basis within games. |
You'd like to think 10 games is enough, certainly for players as talented as ours, to be doing better than this though?
Things should be clicking a bit more now than they were earlier in the season as well surely? Not particularly promising that 6 weeks on from being strong-armed out of a win and ultimately losing the Cheltenham game we go and do the same against a similarly physical side.
The facts of the matter is this really can't go on much longer - the up turn in form required just to sneak into 6th is already pretty big without another month of average at best results. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 18:06 - Oct 4 with 1481 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:29 - Oct 4 by LankHenners |
You'd like to think 10 games is enough, certainly for players as talented as ours, to be doing better than this though?
Things should be clicking a bit more now than they were earlier in the season as well surely? Not particularly promising that 6 weeks on from being strong-armed out of a win and ultimately losing the Cheltenham game we go and do the same against a similarly physical side.
The facts of the matter is this really can't go on much longer - the up turn in form required just to sneak into 6th is already pretty big without another month of average at best results. |
It's not about how talented the players are right now, it's about getting to know how each other plays as a team. Football is a team game after all. If it were as simple as buying the best players and then they click right away you'd just need deep pockets and do away with managers. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 18:29 - Oct 4 with 1462 views | LankHenners |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 18:06 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not about how talented the players are right now, it's about getting to know how each other plays as a team. Football is a team game after all. If it were as simple as buying the best players and then they click right away you'd just need deep pockets and do away with managers. |
Then the coaching staff aren’t doing a very good job then, seeing as it’s their remit to get the players to play as a well functioning team.
Talent is pretty relevant - the better players you have the higher the ceiling is for what you can achieve. A brand new team of the types of players we have should be able to get better results than a brand new team of lesser quality. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 18:36 - Oct 4 with 1443 views | 3_5_2 |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 23:16 - Oct 3 by Illinoisblue |
Instead of Ashton high fiving fans and acting like a giddy super supporter I’d like to hear him issue a public “results are not good enough, they need to get better” warning shot across Cook’s bow. I would hope that’s already been done in private anyway.
We’re getting beaten and bullied by teams with a bag of beans for a budget. Division 3 should not be as hard as we’re making it |
I agree re Ashton. Fair play on getting the players in and identifying what is needed off the field at the club (remains to be to seen if it’s happens but here’s hoping) but I hate the high 5 “_look at me” stuff. It dosnt sit right with me, he is not our star striker.
By all means go mad when if/ we get promoted but we are miles away from that |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 20:33 - Oct 4 with 1381 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 15:16 - Oct 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've said it yourself, not the extent of ITFC. Our starting 11 is entirely unrecognisable from last season. It will take time - more than 10 games - to gel. |
No wrong - this is div 3 ffs. |  | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 10:17 - Oct 5 with 1310 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 20:33 - Oct 4 by reusersfreekicks |
No wrong - this is div 3 ffs. |
LOL, teams don't need to gel in Div 3?! You just buy what you want and they're good to go immediately?
Jesus wept. | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 11:02 - Oct 5 with 1287 views | The_Realist_09 |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:29 - Oct 4 by LankHenners |
You'd like to think 10 games is enough, certainly for players as talented as ours, to be doing better than this though?
Things should be clicking a bit more now than they were earlier in the season as well surely? Not particularly promising that 6 weeks on from being strong-armed out of a win and ultimately losing the Cheltenham game we go and do the same against a similarly physical side.
The facts of the matter is this really can't go on much longer - the up turn in form required just to sneak into 6th is already pretty big without another month of average at best results. |
Big game on Sat for me. We win that and we've suddenly picked up 10 points from last 5 and a positive run to build on. Anything other than a win and it looks a bit meh. | | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 11:09 - Oct 5 with 1275 views | DavoIPB |
People are forgetting Ashtons interview during the last transfer window. He said they had done well in the transfer window but the things necessary to make the club good again were not in place. He said the club needed scouts and a team of recruiters that analysed the statistics. He said this would be in place by January so expect the club and team to have changes again in January.
I like Cook. I don't like the way he says that teams are good and tough to beat in this league. They aren't. We have played some shockingly bad teams this year and we need the manager to start being realistic about who ipswich should be as a club. | | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 14:27 - Oct 5 with 1238 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 11:02 - Oct 5 by The_Realist_09 |
Big game on Sat for me. We win that and we've suddenly picked up 10 points from last 5 and a positive run to build on. Anything other than a win and it looks a bit meh. |
It's going to be hilarious on here from 5pm on Saturday. The Innies v The Outies. One group will be claiming victory while the other will be making their excuses.
Who will come out on top? Sharpen your keyboards, battle will shortly commence! | |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:07 - Oct 5 with 1185 views | braveblue |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 09:57 - Oct 4 by Herbivore |
Genuinely curious, what have you seen so far that makes you think he will succeed here? I really want him to but 6 wins in 28 games in the third division is abysmal and to me it looks like he doesn't really know how to get a tune out of us. [Post edited 4 Oct 2021 10:09]
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His pedigree. The good players we have brought in. The dross we got rid of. Been pretty unlucky in a few games. Just think it will come good. | | | |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:24 - Oct 5 with 1170 views | Herbivore |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:07 - Oct 5 by braveblue |
His pedigree. The good players we have brought in. The dross we got rid of. Been pretty unlucky in a few games. Just think it will come good. |
The "dross we got rid of" outperformed our current crop of players over the last 2 years in this division though. I agree that on paper we have brought in some good players which makes it all the more worrying that we can't get them to perform at better than relegstion form currently. I'm not sure we've been especially unlucky either, making mistakes or missing chances isn't bad luck. I hope you're right and it comes good, but at the moment we only really have hope to hold on to rather than anything more tangible. |  |
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| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:35 - Oct 5 with 1140 views | chrismakin |
| I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert on 17:24 - Oct 5 by Herbivore |
The "dross we got rid of" outperformed our current crop of players over the last 2 years in this division though. I agree that on paper we have brought in some good players which makes it all the more worrying that we can't get them to perform at better than relegstion form currently. I'm not sure we've been especially unlucky either, making mistakes or missing chances isn't bad luck. I hope you're right and it comes good, but at the moment we only really have hope to hold on to rather than anything more tangible. |
Be fair herb, a large quantity of them lost 2-0 to Salford in league 2 on the weekend. |  |
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