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any buildery types? 21:20 - May 1 with 8738 views

I am looking to build a pizza oven on our balcony bit am worried about the weight. Balcony is over the garage rather than overhanging and it would be in a corner near a wall. Likely to be okay?

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any buildery types? on 22:21 - May 1 with 1717 views

SpruceMoose

any buildery types? on 22:20 - May 1 by jeera
No way. They have to be soft boiled. Then you can dip your pizza bread and pineapple in it.

You could be onto something here...

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any buildery types? on 22:23 - May 1 with 1714 views

jeera

any buildery types? on 22:21 - May 1 by SpruceMoose
You could be onto something here... [Post edited 1 May 2020 22:21]

I may have been pals with J2 for too long.

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any buildery types? on 22:24 - May 1 with 1710 views

SpruceMoose

any buildery types? on 22:23 - May 1 by jeera
I may have been pals with J2 for too long.

I think he grills his pizza

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any buildery types? on 22:25 - May 1 with 1707 views

Churchman

any buildery types? on 22:17 - May 1 by jeera
To be honest I like ham and pineapple on pizza but there's no way I'd admit that on here again. I've only had Dominoes maybe twice but thought they were ok. I'm clearly no pizza connoisseur!

Ham and pineapple is ok. Only had it the once but yeah, it’s no pepperoni but I’d live with it. Egg in any format on a pizza?? No, that is just a bad thing.

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any buildery types? on 22:26 - May 1 with 1706 views

vapour_trail

any buildery types? on 22:24 - May 1 by SpruceMoose
I think he grills his pizza

I think he grills his eggs.

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any buildery types? on 22:28 - May 1 with 1700 views

SpruceMoose

any buildery types? on 22:26 - May 1 by vapour_trail
I think he grills his eggs.

How else are you going to get a nice char on the shell?

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any buildery types? on 22:28 - May 1 with 1699 views

jeera

any buildery types? on 22:25 - May 1 by Churchman
Ham and pineapple is ok. Only had it the once but yeah, it’s no pepperoni but I’d live with it. Egg in any format on a pizza?? No, that is just a bad thing. [Post edited 1 May 2020 22:28]

But eggs are more traditional.

I like almost anything really.

At the end of the day, it's your favourite foodstuff piled up on bread.

You can't go too far wrong really!

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any buildery types? on 22:29 - May 1 with 1696 views

jeera

any buildery types? on 22:28 - May 1 by SpruceMoose
How else are you going to get a nice char on the shell?

BBQ?

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any buildery types? on 22:34 - May 1 with 1686 views

bluelagos

any buildery types? on 22:23 - May 1 by jeera
I may have been pals with J2 for too long.

My other Pizza story was when back from 4 years overseas and I ended up in a pub in Brixton and ordered a 'Rocket pizza' assuming it would be spicy meat.

Seriously, who the fck eats Pizza with leaves on it. £10 too.

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any buildery types? on 22:52 - May 1 with 1668 views

Churchman

any buildery types? on 22:28 - May 1 by jeera
But eggs are more traditional. I like almost anything really. At the end of the day, it's your favourite foodstuff piled up on bread. You can't go too far wrong really!

Your right - I can’t argue with the logic of that. It really is anything you want, or in olden days had, heaped on bread. I’m just not a fan of the white of a fried or poached egg, let alone on a pizza.

Pizza Hut meat feast was my pizza of choice back in the 80s. You got a free tilt at the salad bar too with a small dish, so the aim was to stack up as much in as you could. If you could get sufficient Taj Mahal volumes heaped up and get to your table without a collapse, you’d draw admiration from the assembled throng in the place. You’d never eat much of the stuff of course.

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any buildery types? on 11:29 - May 2 with 1591 views

Leaky

Just be wary of the weight & the possibility that it could be a fire hazard

any buildery types? on 11:58 - May 2 with 1576 views

strikalite

any buildery types? on 22:10 - May 1 by Churchman
There’s one 10 mins walk away (or 2 mins delivery) and I’ve never made it beyond the kebab house or Chinese before. Given your experiences, I’ll give it a miss ðŸ˜ƒ.

Go and try one, best pizza on the high street by a mile, the ones from our local store are anyway, but don't get it delivered, walk in and wait as it'll be straight out of the oven and fresh, big difference..

Though think it's delivery only right now so maybe wait..

any buildery types? on 12:39 - May 2 with 1570 views

EdwardStone

Builder here....

All depends on the existing floor/roof support, it's existing load then and the intended additional load. In an ideal world these questions would be answered by a Structural Engineer at a cost of maybe £500 + to cover site visit and calcs

Is the balcony over the garage a concrete block and beam floor, or timber deck?

The classic way to improve the strength of the floor is to prop it from underneath...RSJ or some other steel....but that can get involved and complicated, maybe having to provide piers/pillars for the steel to rest upon

Without having a look, very hard to suggest other solutions

If the floor doesn't bounce much now with several people moving about on it, and you chose to place a reasonably lightweight oven right in the corner....it might be reasonable to assume that all will be well

Pizza ovens come in many types....a local firm near here casts them for these guys. I am assuming that the retailers could provide a spec sheet that would mention the weight

https://www.thestonebakeovencompany.co.uk/shop/wood-pizza-ovens/primo-60-go/

If you were to build a heavier one in situ from mountains of concrete and a huge stack of bricks....it might all get a lot heavier

So...correct answer....Engage the services of a Structual Engineer

Reasonable way forward.... lightweight oven right on corner

Risky way forward....heavy oven and many pizza loving fatties as guests

Hope this helps

any buildery types? on 12:55 - May 2 with 1566 views

sparks

any buildery types? on 12:39 - May 2 by EdwardStone

Thanks. There are concrete looking beams across the end of the garage where the balcony is though the rest of the garage (below the kitchen) seems to be timber.

I think I have concluded its probably a silly idea to do the whole hog as I had been thinking- i.e brick base, and clay or brick overn built over the top.

The linked product is nice. Looks like the delivery pallet is 200kg. Not too bad- but probably impossible to get onto the balcony anyway, as a lockdown project withotu lots of help!

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any buildery types? on 13:36 - May 2 with 1553 views

BrixtonBlue

any buildery types? on 22:17 - May 1 by jeera
To be honest I like ham and pineapple on pizza but there's no way I'd admit that on here again. I've only had Dominoes maybe twice but thought they were ok. I'm clearly no pizza connoisseur!

I'm with you on ham and pineapple on pizza. Stand strong brother. Don't let these boring dullards break you down.

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any buildery types? on 13:46 - May 2 with 1546 views

BrixtonBlue

any buildery types? on 21:29 - May 1 by SpruceMoose
Why not stick a swimming pool on there too while you're at it Bully?

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any buildery types? on 13:48 - May 2 with 1547 views

EdwardStone

any buildery types? on 12:55 - May 2 by sparks

You're welcome

I might tend to steer clear of a homemade clay oven...I am just about to build a brick one because of the high attrition rate of the clay....very hard to get the clay mix just right, and as soon as the clay cracks then it is a short path to Game Over

I have built 4 clay ovens here, getting a bit p*ssed off with it tbh. Mk 5 will be from brick and hopefully go for a few seasons

any buildery types? on 14:39 - May 2 with 1530 views

sparks

any buildery types? on 13:48 - May 2 by EdwardStone
You're welcome I might tend to steer clear of a homemade clay oven...I am just about to build a brick one because of the high attrition rate of the clay....very hard to get the clay mix just right, and as soon as the clay cracks then it is a short path to Game Over I have built 4 clay ovens here, getting a bit p*ssed off with it tbh. Mk 5 will be from brick and hopefully go for a few seasons

Sounds like good advice. I was looking at the ones made with vermiculite and cement, over a gym ball- but not sure how robust they are or whether they retain heat well enough.

Given the weight concerns, I might end up going for one of these. not quite the same but they seem pretty good. https://www.thepizzaovenshop.com/igneus-pizza-oven/

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any buildery types? on 17:02 - May 2 with 1514 views

EdwardStone

any buildery types? on 14:39 - May 2 by sparks
Sounds like good advice. I was looking at the ones made with vermiculite and cement, over a gym ball- but not sure how robust they are or whether they retain heat well enough. Given the weight concerns, I might end up going for one of these. not quite the same but they seem pretty good. https://www.thepizzaovenshop.com/igneus-pizza-oven/ [Post edited 2 May 2020 14:41]

I tended to favour a sculpted pile of wet sand, try to get the flame path just so, gym ball sounds a bit too round

I think I might want to hear some unbiased testimonials from owners of these bought in ovens before lashing the cash....they are a fair chunk of money if they turn out to be a bit rubbish

There must be a pizza oven owners forum out there....

any buildery types? on 20:03 - May 2 with 1491 views

azuremerlangus

Just buy a kettle style BBQ (Weber etc). I do pizza in mine without any trouble.

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any buildery types? on 20:21 - May 2 with 1482 views

Cotty

any buildery types? on 21:49 - May 1 by sparks
Our layout is unusual. Built on a hill. To get to the garden requires going down to the basement. The balcony is adjacent to the kitchen.

Buy a new house. Then build a pizza oven in the garden.

any buildery types? on 20:26 - May 2 with 1475 views

jeera

any buildery types? on 20:21 - May 2 by Cotty
Buy a new house. Then build a pizza oven in the garden.

That's a lot of unnecessary messing about though.

They could remove a chunk of the hill and underpin one side of the property and also put in a passageway to get to the garden where the pizza oven could then reside.

That makes more sense and they wouldn't have to move.

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any buildery types? on 20:27 - May 2 with 1474 views

Cotty

any buildery types? on 20:26 - May 2 by jeera
That's a lot of unnecessary messing about though. They could remove a chunk of the hill and underpin one side of the property and also put in a passageway to get to the garden where the pizza oven could then reside. That makes more sense and they wouldn't have to move.

Or stick a helicopter pad on the roof for swift access to the garden for pizza cooking?

any buildery types? on 20:29 - May 2 with 1474 views

giant_stow

Does it have to be a big heavy stone thing? Or are metal ones heavy too?

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any buildery types? on 20:42 - May 2 with 1464 views

jeera

any buildery types? on 20:27 - May 2 by Cotty
Or stick a helicopter pad on the roof for swift access to the garden for pizza cooking?

An outside lift up the side of the garage connecting the balcony to the garden?

Or a ladder.

Don't get me wrong, the helicopter does sound more fun.

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