| Lambert lambasting Jackson 22:54 - Jan 26 with 3568 views | Trequartista |
Nothing he says is untrue, but you usually keep strong words like that in the dressing-room, I think that shows he doesn't really care as he won't be his manager for much longer
""It's a horrendous challenge," said Lambert, when asked about Jackson's red card. "If I was Sunderland I'd be angry as well. He's let everybody down. He's let himself down and he's let his team-mates down. I've not really seen the Sky angle, but I saw it from my own angle and it was terrible."
Oh and we were "brilliant" apparently [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 22:55]
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 22:56 - Jan 26 with 3214 views | Bluefish |
They hate each other clearly
Add him to the list with Harrison, Donacien and Woolfenden |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 22:58 - Jan 26 with 3177 views | pointofblue |
For once I don’t mind Lambert’s response. Better than “I didn’t see it” when it was obviously a dreadful challenge. |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:01 - Jan 26 with 3134 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 22:58 - Jan 26 by pointofblue |
For once I don’t mind Lambert’s response. Better than “I didn’t see it” when it was obviously a dreadful challenge. |
I think you can admit it was a red card challenge and say you have no problem with the decision, and perhaps add that the incident has had a large bearing on the result. That would also be better than "didn't see it".
I don't think i've ever heard a manager say "if i was the opposition i would be angry" [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:01]
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:04 - Jan 26 with 3048 views | Herbivore |
Lambert has always been more than happy to throw certain players under the bus to make himself look less hopeless. |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:08 - Jan 26 with 2954 views | textbackup |
he would chuck his own family under that bus if it protected him |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:08 - Jan 26 with 2958 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:01 - Jan 26 by Trequartista |
I think you can admit it was a red card challenge and say you have no problem with the decision, and perhaps add that the incident has had a large bearing on the result. That would also be better than "didn't see it".
I don't think i've ever heard a manager say "if i was the opposition i would be angry" [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:01]
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It's obvious why he has done it, if you can't see it then you are exceptionally naive. Every match he loses, he needs to play up the impact of something outside his control as an excuse. Yes Jackson was at fault tonight and was stupid, but it's in the interest of Lambert's self preservation to play that up as much as possible.
The fact that Jackson himself has come out with a statement saying he cost the team the three points, even though it's unlikely we'd have won anyway, will I'm afraid, only help Lambert preserve his job, as he'll now be pointing out to Evans, that don't take my word for it, the player himself said it.
Lambert is going to throw anyone he can under the bus to help him retain his own position and if they're already half way under the bus like Jackson is tonight he's going to make damn sure that the whole of them goes under it. [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:09]
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:13 - Jan 26 with 2868 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:08 - Jan 26 by DublinBlue84 |
It's obvious why he has done it, if you can't see it then you are exceptionally naive. Every match he loses, he needs to play up the impact of something outside his control as an excuse. Yes Jackson was at fault tonight and was stupid, but it's in the interest of Lambert's self preservation to play that up as much as possible.
The fact that Jackson himself has come out with a statement saying he cost the team the three points, even though it's unlikely we'd have won anyway, will I'm afraid, only help Lambert preserve his job, as he'll now be pointing out to Evans, that don't take my word for it, the player himself said it.
Lambert is going to throw anyone he can under the bus to help him retain his own position and if they're already half way under the bus like Jackson is tonight he's going to make damn sure that the whole of them goes under it. [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:09]
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Like I said in a previous reply, he could have still said it was a red card that changed the game to shift the blame onto Jackson without going OTT | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:14 - Jan 26 with 2834 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:08 - Jan 26 by textbackup |
he would chuck his own family under that bus if it protected him |
Was it Nolan that got a red for a tackle that was more dishonest and he backed him! Presumably because it was near the end rather than the start of the game so didn't make much difference. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:15 - Jan 26 with 2825 views | MaySixth |
They have a bit of recent history, |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:15 - Jan 26 with 2816 views | DublinBlue84 |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:13 - Jan 26 by Trequartista |
Like I said in a previous reply, he could have still said it was a red card that changed the game to shift the blame onto Jackson without going OTT |
He doesn't care, short term preservation is more important to him than a player who is going to be missing for three matches now. He's not thinking that far ahead.
Evans needs to pull the trigger. NOW. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:16 - Jan 26 with 2791 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:15 - Jan 26 by DublinBlue84 |
He doesn't care, short term preservation is more important to him than a player who is going to be missing for three matches now. He's not thinking that far ahead.
Evans needs to pull the trigger. NOW. |
That's part of my point, i don't think he cares because he doesn't think he will ever be available for selection again for him. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:18 - Jan 26 with 2768 views | MrTown |
It was a shocking tackle, and shocker. No issue with him stating that fact.
Whether he and Jackson have issues is a different matter that no one will know for sure. |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:19 - Jan 26 with 2736 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 22:56 - Jan 26 by Bluefish |
They hate each other clearly
Add him to the list with Harrison, Donacien and Woolfenden |
Lambert lost the dressing room long ago.
The club acts as if players don’t say things and whispers go around.
They know we know more than we can say we know and they pretend we don’t know it.
ITFC is Hypernormalisation. [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:19]
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:25 - Jan 26 with 2631 views | BluedanW |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:19 - Jan 26 by monytowbray |
Lambert lost the dressing room long ago.
The club acts as if players don’t say things and whispers go around.
They know we know more than we can say we know and they pretend we don’t know it.
ITFC is Hypernormalisation. [Post edited 26 Jan 2021 23:19]
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Everything is self preservation now for lambert.
As well as the players did to not get hammered, Lambert could of tried to change the game and make an effort to fjnd the equaliser. Instead he chose to set up to hold out for a 1-0 defeat. The self preservation option so he can say afterwards it wasn't his fault. Id rather we actually had a go and got battered. | | | |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:37 - Jan 26 with 2542 views | Darth_Koont |
It’s a bad statement at the best of times.
But considering that it looked very much an unintentional challenge, it’s an awful statement.
I hope the squad don’t buy into this at all and show Jackson a bit of support. |  |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:39 - Jan 26 with 2529 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:37 - Jan 26 by Darth_Koont |
It’s a bad statement at the best of times.
But considering that it looked very much an unintentional challenge, it’s an awful statement.
I hope the squad don’t buy into this at all and show Jackson a bit of support. |
Twitter would suggest the fans have his back.
Even if a few loud numbskulls on here think he’s rubbish. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:40 - Jan 26 with 2518 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:25 - Jan 26 by BluedanW |
Everything is self preservation now for lambert.
As well as the players did to not get hammered, Lambert could of tried to change the game and make an effort to fjnd the equaliser. Instead he chose to set up to hold out for a 1-0 defeat. The self preservation option so he can say afterwards it wasn't his fault. Id rather we actually had a go and got battered. |
It’s not even self-preservation. It’s well beyond that.
The only people left on Lambert’s side are those willing to drink the FlavorAid. Everyone else has realised things aren’t quite going to the Guru’s plan. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:47 - Jan 26 with 2493 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:37 - Jan 26 by Darth_Koont |
It’s a bad statement at the best of times.
But considering that it looked very much an unintentional challenge, it’s an awful statement.
I hope the squad don’t buy into this at all and show Jackson a bit of support. |
I think its one of those where you don't aim for the opposition player's leg, but you go over the ball to try and protect it, and by the time you plant your foot, there's a good chance the opposition player's leg is there. I even thought it was our free-kick until i saw the replay so i would be an awful referee. Dangerous but not malicious, but a red card. I often complain about modern football and penalising what i think are perfectly good tackles, but this is one of those that deserve the punishment. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:48 - Jan 26 with 2473 views | Trequartista |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:39 - Jan 26 by monytowbray |
Twitter would suggest the fans have his back.
Even if a few loud numbskulls on here think he’s rubbish. |
He's rubbish.  | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:50 - Jan 26 with 2457 views | ClareBlue |
A club imploding. Even the Rod Liddle in Sunday Times saying we are deluded set of fans. Manager out if his depth and turning into a delusional, paranoid bluffer.
What's the saying..darkest time is before the dawn | | | |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 00:01 - Jan 27 with 2414 views | Darth_Koont |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:47 - Jan 26 by Trequartista |
I think its one of those where you don't aim for the opposition player's leg, but you go over the ball to try and protect it, and by the time you plant your foot, there's a good chance the opposition player's leg is there. I even thought it was our free-kick until i saw the replay so i would be an awful referee. Dangerous but not malicious, but a red card. I often complain about modern football and penalising what i think are perfectly good tackles, but this is one of those that deserve the punishment. |
By the sound of it, we’re very close in how we saw it.
The problem I have with it is if the Sunderland player didn’t come in from the side as he did would Jackson have been foolish to even lift his foot to get it over the ball and control it just because of the risk? I see players make that move all the time in close quarters and it can’t just be dangerous only if you make contact. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 00:41 - Jan 27 with 2329 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:37 - Jan 26 by Darth_Koont |
It’s a bad statement at the best of times.
But considering that it looked very much an unintentional challenge, it’s an awful statement.
I hope the squad don’t buy into this at all and show Jackson a bit of support. |
If it was an intentional two footed lunge in revenge to something that happened to him on the pitch then Lamberts comments would be fair.
In this instance yes its a red card, its reckless and clumsy but I don't believe it was intentional. To hang him out to dry when our strikers must already lack confidence from the team providing half a chance a game makes no sense to me. | | | |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 01:02 - Jan 27 with 2282 views | MrTown |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 23:39 - Jan 26 by monytowbray |
Twitter would suggest the fans have his back.
Even if a few loud numbskulls on here think he’s rubbish. |
What do you mean have his back? Have his back for what?
He did a horror tackle, rightly was called out for it and he’s rightly apologised. He takes responsibility and we move on.
I’m not sure it falls in to the category of ‘numbskull’ because your opinion is that a player is very good. | |
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| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 08:34 - Jan 27 with 1912 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 01:02 - Jan 27 by MrTown |
What do you mean have his back? Have his back for what?
He did a horror tackle, rightly was called out for it and he’s rightly apologised. He takes responsibility and we move on.
I’m not sure it falls in to the category of ‘numbskull’ because your opinion is that a player is very good. |
HE was clumsy and reckless but not intent on a 'horror tackle' - it wasn't a case of a revenge tackle and him losing his head - that would warrant Lamberts comments. | | | |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 08:37 - Jan 27 with 1890 views | Herbivore |
| Lambert lambasting Jackson on 08:34 - Jan 27 by haynes_toe1 |
HE was clumsy and reckless but not intent on a 'horror tackle' - it wasn't a case of a revenge tackle and him losing his head - that would warrant Lamberts comments. |
Indeed. It wasn't a reckless two footed lunge either, it was incredibly clumsy but you can see he's looking at the ball and the movement of his leg is to get over the ball and shield it. However, he should have been aware of the player coming in to challenge and pulled out. It was dangerous because it was clumsy, it wasn't a horror tackle. Throwing him under the bus (again) is a dick move. | |
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