| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? 18:29 - Sep 19 with 3620 views | Mullet |
I appreciated I'm bringing the TWTD equivalent of gasoline, matches and a Delia shaped effigy to the thread, but what's the angle here?
Sayle is an interesting comic, but who and what are "Just Jews"? A non-religious alternative pressure group or sorts? I know it's not that long and the detail is lacking, but is the argument one to steer away from the Tory's "what about anti-Semitism?" line? |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 18:31 - Sep 19 with 1512 views | wkj |
Chubby Brown next |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 18:33 - Sep 19 with 1497 views | SpruceMoose |
Dis gon be good. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:04 - Sep 19 with 1412 views | lowhouseblue |
1970s communists 4 corbyn. i think we knew that. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:08 - Sep 19 with 1398 views | noggin |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:04 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
1970s communists 4 corbyn. i think we knew that. |
You forgot 'Jewish' |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:09 - Sep 19 with 1394 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:04 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
1970s communists 4 corbyn. i think we knew that. |
You're not saying they are the wrong type of Jewish folk are you? Your post seemed a bit... dismissive, that's all. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:15 - Sep 19 with 1384 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:08 - Sep 19 by noggin |
You forgot 'Jewish' |
well his parents were members of the cpgb so they must have come to terms with the soviet state's anti-semitism - so i guess corbyn's mates are light weights relative to that. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:17 - Sep 19 with 1375 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:09 - Sep 19 by SpruceMoose |
You're not saying they are the wrong type of Jewish folk are you? Your post seemed a bit... dismissive, that's all. |
where did is say that? are you hallucinating again? you may be overwrought. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:17 - Sep 19 with 1374 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:15 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
well his parents were members of the cpgb so they must have come to terms with the soviet state's anti-semitism - so i guess corbyn's mates are light weights relative to that. |
It's certainly been a day for the mental gymnasts on here. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:22 - Sep 19 with 1361 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:17 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
where did is say that? are you hallucinating again? you may be overwrought. |
You just seem very quick to dismiss this particular Jewish man's perspective that's all. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:25 - Sep 19 with 1354 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:22 - Sep 19 by SpruceMoose |
You just seem very quick to dismiss this particular Jewish man's perspective that's all. |
no, i'm quick to dismiss this particular ageing commie's perspective that's all. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:25 - Sep 19 with 1360 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Oh, that's cringey.
Basically the equivalent of Corbyn saying;
'I'm not anti semitic, some of my best friends are jews'. [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:26]
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:29 - Sep 19 with 1342 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:25 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
no, i'm quick to dismiss this particular ageing commie's perspective that's all. |
So, like I said, I reads like he's not the right type of Jewish person for you.
It's a genuine question. On the one hand, you believe what one group of Jewish people say when they talk about their experiences, as you should.
Yet on the other hand, you dismiss the experiences of a different group of Jewish people because of their politics. Can communist Jews not experience anti-semitism?
That doesn't seem an odd position to take to you? [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:38]
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:31 - Sep 19 with 1333 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:25 - Sep 19 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Oh, that's cringey.
Basically the equivalent of Corbyn saying;
'I'm not anti semitic, some of my best friends are jews'. [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:26]
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Hardly.
Corbyn hasn't said anything. This is a Jewish person saying they support him. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:33 - Sep 19 with 1320 views | Darth_Koont |
He’s a great man. Fantastic writer too if you’ve ever read his short stories.
And pretty clear on the smear campaign against Corbyn. Just Jews are people who are standing up against a narrative. I’d advise people to consider their views as well rather than purely listening to baseless accusations that have gained far too much traction given a distinct lack of evidence.
Otherwise, people are no better than Trump supporters believing what they want to believe. |  | | |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:38 - Sep 19 with 1297 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:29 - Sep 19 by SpruceMoose |
So, like I said, I reads like he's not the right type of Jewish person for you.
It's a genuine question. On the one hand, you believe what one group of Jewish people say when they talk about their experiences, as you should.
Yet on the other hand, you dismiss the experiences of a different group of Jewish people because of their politics. Can communist Jews not experience anti-semitism?
That doesn't seem an odd position to take to you? [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:38]
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the fact that a very large number of uk jews, including all of the main uk jewish organisations, have reported anti-semitism from corbyn's supporters is enough. your line seems to be that you'll only take the abuse seriously if every single jew in the uk reports it. it's has to unanimous or you'll ignore it. would you take the same view with sexual harassment? it's all ok cos there are still some women who haven't experienced it yet? | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:43 - Sep 19 with 1281 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:38 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
the fact that a very large number of uk jews, including all of the main uk jewish organisations, have reported anti-semitism from corbyn's supporters is enough. your line seems to be that you'll only take the abuse seriously if every single jew in the uk reports it. it's has to unanimous or you'll ignore it. would you take the same view with sexual harassment? it's all ok cos there are still some women who haven't experienced it yet? |
Not at all what I am saying, please don't attempt to misrepresent me here.
You dismissed what he said solely because of his political beliefs. You said it yourself. It's in the thread for all to read. I'm asking you why you see fit to dismiss a persons take on bigotry because they have political beliefs you don't like. The value of what a person says, in terms of their own lived experiences, isn't defined by their personal political views. Or it shouldn't be, anyway.
If he came out and talked about how he thought there were issues with anti-semitism in the Labour Party, you wouldn't be dismissing them because of his politics, so why do you feel able to that when he offers a different view of his own experiences? [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:45]
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:44 - Sep 19 with 1279 views | footers |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:38 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
the fact that a very large number of uk jews, including all of the main uk jewish organisations, have reported anti-semitism from corbyn's supporters is enough. your line seems to be that you'll only take the abuse seriously if every single jew in the uk reports it. it's has to unanimous or you'll ignore it. would you take the same view with sexual harassment? it's all ok cos there are still some women who haven't experienced it yet? |
You make out that nothing's been done in the Labour Party to deal with the problem: it has. Painting old Jezza as the next Adolf and goysplaining to actual Jews who have a different view to you is a bit gutter, innit.
Guilt by association, as ever. |  |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:51 - Sep 19 with 1244 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:43 - Sep 19 by SpruceMoose |
Not at all what I am saying, please don't attempt to misrepresent me here.
You dismissed what he said solely because of his political beliefs. You said it yourself. It's in the thread for all to read. I'm asking you why you see fit to dismiss a persons take on bigotry because they have political beliefs you don't like. The value of what a person says, in terms of their own lived experiences, isn't defined by their personal political views. Or it shouldn't be, anyway.
If he came out and talked about how he thought there were issues with anti-semitism in the Labour Party, you wouldn't be dismissing them because of his politics, so why do you feel able to that when he offers a different view of his own experiences? [Post edited 19 Sep 2019 19:45]
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he comes from a political background which is entirely alien to the labour party. that a 1970s communist supports corbyn is unsurprising - nothing needs explaining. people who are politically aligned with the corbyn sect choose to turn a blind eye to stuff as we know full well on here. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:51 - Sep 19 with 1244 views | Darth_Koont |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:15 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
well his parents were members of the cpgb so they must have come to terms with the soviet state's anti-semitism - so i guess corbyn's mates are light weights relative to that. |
You evidently know nothing about Sayle’s views on Soviet communism and antisemitism.
Then again, what do you know about anything other than playing party politics? It’s easier to play the man than the ball especially if you don’t know what to do with the ball if you ever got it. | | | |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:52 - Sep 19 with 1237 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:44 - Sep 19 by footers |
You make out that nothing's been done in the Labour Party to deal with the problem: it has. Painting old Jezza as the next Adolf and goysplaining to actual Jews who have a different view to you is a bit gutter, innit.
Guilt by association, as ever. |
very little has been done in the labour party which is why it is being investigated by the ehrc. you're the only one to mention hitler - i think that means you win some sort of prize? | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:53 - Sep 19 with 1234 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:51 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue |
he comes from a political background which is entirely alien to the labour party. that a 1970s communist supports corbyn is unsurprising - nothing needs explaining. people who are politically aligned with the corbyn sect choose to turn a blind eye to stuff as we know full well on here. |
You should just agree with me. You're dismissing his experiences because of his politics. Once you actually stop dancing around and admit that we can get down to actually debating it. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:57 - Sep 19 with 1219 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 19:51 - Sep 19 by Darth_Koont |
You evidently know nothing about Sayle’s views on Soviet communism and antisemitism.
Then again, what do you know about anything other than playing party politics? It’s easier to play the man than the ball especially if you don’t know what to do with the ball if you ever got it. |
you seem to be the one with the party political allegiance. you also come across as an angry and abusive person. | |
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| Anyone else seen this Alexei Sayle video promoting Corbyn? on 20:06 - Sep 19 with 1194 views | wkj |
I'm sorry, but I find some of the debate on here atrocious. Fighting in the name of anti racism and religious stereotypes is admirable, and should always be challenged. However, some of what is being said is disgusting as its trying to use a contentious issue to bolster political opinion. Utterly shameful. | |
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